Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:07:01AM +, alex typed:

[better instructions soon, but it takes up most of rhoda street, bethnal
green, nearest tubes are old street, shoreditch, liverpool street and
bethnal green, or closest of all, bus route number 8]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear... that's about five minutes' walk from where
I'm working... expect a large Torrington contingent if I can persuade
them.

Roger



Re: FOOD

2001-01-05 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Alex Page ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:55:09PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
 
   I drink badly too.
 
  I'm sorry, but that parsing of Jonathan's comment indicates that he
  *needs* badly.  His drinking skills are indeterminate at this point.
 
 Erm, how does one need badly?
 
 "God, I need a cigarette."
 "Here you go, you can scab one of mine."
 "No thanks, I'm fine."
 
 Alex, stalking dha around the 'net

dha  : Say, whats up Doc?
alex : be verry verry quiet, i'm hunting adlers
dha  : Adlers you say, how can you spot them?
alex : well they know too much about monty python
dha  : you mean things like ``the how to recognise body parts'' sketch
   from series 2 took 18 takes, as palin and cleese couldn't stop
   laughing at each other
alex : yeah thats right, say ..


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RE: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-05 Thread Matthew Jones

 my vote the one, the only ... Charlie's Angels

That was a fun film and entertaining but I need more that kung fu and
breasts
to make a good 90 mins...

Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum?

"Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Breasts
are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that?

Other thread. ActiveState Perl. I have that on my smoke-spouting station
wagon, but I tend to do most of my actual monkeying using the slightly gimpy
version on my sedan. The perennial problem of wanky memory management is a
huge pain with MacPerl, however.

I get to use a proper sparcstation at werg, though.

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RE: new years eve

2001-01-05 Thread Matthew Jones

This could be the ideal
opportunity for that drunken Paranoia game we've been promising ourselves
for so long.  Yes, it *definitely* has to be drunken.

It's been literally years since I played paranoia! It's by far the best RPG
*ever*. It neatly sidesteps the whole "take the whole thing too
seriously/powergamers" problem, and I love the BOFHly role the GM has to
take on.

Beautiful

-- 
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stay alert. trust no-one. keep your laser handy.

catch up.



RE: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-05 Thread Paul Mison

On 05/01/2001 at 09:34 +, Matthew Jones wrote:

Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum?

I dunno. Plot? shrug/

"Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money.
Breasts
are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that?

Hey, it's that fun American release/UK release argument again (since
CTHD isn't out here until... well, actually it's today. The Guardian
like it too, fwiw.

No-one mentioned Titus (they dropped the Andronicus bit for some reason
for the film version). I liked it. I thought they'd added the grim bits
and was a bit shocked to find that they were all Will's fault. Wins the
Romeo And Juliet Production Design award too.

--
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:: and if you refuse to believe
:: you will be cast into the void





Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-05 Thread David Hodgkinson

Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  my vote the one, the only ... Charlie's Angels
 
 That was a fun film and entertaining but I need more that kung fu and
 breasts
 to make a good 90 mins...
 
 Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum?
 
 "Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Breasts
 are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that?

Yes. They're not optional.

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Re: not-paranoia

2001-01-05 Thread Greg McCarroll



ill stick more details about this here

http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net/

including a method for generating a character

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 there has been some talk, of playing a one off (ish) rpg, the night is 
 probably next thursday night and the game is open to all london.pm'ers
 (even if they have been to less than 3 meetings this year ;-) )
 
 the game is likely to use the original traveller rules but be set
 in a cyberpunk/1984 world from my feevered mind, min. players is 3
 maximum players i 8, and the game will be held in sydenham
 
 alchohol will be kept to a minimal level ;-) (because i'm the BGMFH)
 
 if people could mail me offlist if they are interested, alternatively
 we can create yet another non-perl related thread here
 
 greg
 
 
 -- 
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RE: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-05 Thread Matthew Jones

Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum?

I dunno. Plot? shrug/

Here's my idea of a good plot:

Wang Hoo: "Eight Castle-Smasher Fists! Feet on Seven Stars!"
(sticks rigidly to form)

Tsing Wa: "Left Hand Buddha Palm! Right Hand Buddha Fist!"
(also sticks rigidly to form)

A fight ensues.

Wang Hoo: "Drunken Buddha Style!"

Tsing Wa: "Watch out for my hidden attack!"  (eh? -ed)

"Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money.

Hey, it's that fun American release/UK release argument again (since
CTHD isn't out here until... well, actually it's today. The Guardian
like it too, fwiw.

Never mind what country it was released in and when. If you saw it in 2000,
they you're entitled to include it in your personal best of the year, I
reckon.

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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Andy Wardley

On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote:
 As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've
 got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know.

Take your pick:

   Template Toolkit Views
 A new and icy cold metaphor for the Template Toolkit which makes
 hard things easy and defrosted things frozen solid.  Assumes (but
 probably doesn't rely on) some TT knowledge.

   Camelot
 An experimental Web Application Framework which makes (most) other
 so-called "Web Application Frameworks" look like a really silly
 idea.   Br!  That's chilly.

   Pod::POM
 The POD Object Model.  This makes translation of POD to
 other formats so simple that even your grandmother could do it,
 and we all know how much trouble she has working the toaster.
 Yowser, it's cold in here!  Did someone leave the freezer door open?

   XML::Schema
 XML::Schema will rule the world!  This is still in the planning /
 development phase, but it promises to kick bottom really hard.
 Create a schema to describe your data and then sit back and let
 the camel take over.  The XML::Schema module should allow you
 to build schema-specific parsers, (de-)marshalling code to convert
 XML schema instances to/from objects, XML/SQL interfaces, and other
 cool stuff like that.  Hey, is that frost on the keyboard?

   Dear Santa
 How to write your christmas thank-you letters using the Template
 Toolkit.  Silly, but chilly lighting talk.


A






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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've
 got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know.
 

i can do 20 minutes on SOAP (not 20 mins squeezed into 5) ;-)

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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Neil Ford

On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote:
  As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've
  got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know.

Take your pick:

Template Toolkit Views
  A new and icy cold metaphor for the Template Toolkit which makes
  hard things easy and defrosted things frozen solid.  Assumes (but
  probably doesn't rely on) some TT knowledge.

Camelot
  An experimental Web Application Framework which makes (most) other
  so-called "Web Application Frameworks" look like a really silly
  idea.   Br!  That's chilly.

Pod::POM
  The POD Object Model.  This makes translation of POD to
  other formats so simple that even your grandmother could do it,
  and we all know how much trouble she has working the toaster.
  Yowser, it's cold in here!  Did someone leave the freezer door open?

XML::Schema
  XML::Schema will rule the world!  This is still in the planning /
  development phase, but it promises to kick bottom really hard.
  Create a schema to describe your data and then sit back and let
  the camel take over.  The XML::Schema module should allow you
  to build schema-specific parsers, (de-)marshalling code to convert
  XML schema instances to/from objects, XML/SQL interfaces, and other
  cool stuff like that.  Hey, is that frost on the keyboard?

Dear Santa
  How to write your christmas thank-you letters using the Template
  Toolkit.  Silly, but chilly lighting talk.


A

Ummm. the lot :-)

Save having to swap laptops with the projector and Dave wouldn't have 
to time the lightening talks.

Top it off with another 12 steps session from Piers and were sorted.

Neil.
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http://www.binky.ourshack.org



Re: Damian's Visit

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley

Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As you'll have seen from his web site
 http://www.yetanother.org/damian/, Damian will be in London on
 25th and 26th Feb. I've exchanged emails with him and here are a few
 more details.
 
 He flies in at 11:30am on Sunday 25th and is teaching all day Monday and
 most of Tuesday, before flying out again at 6:20pm on Tuesday.

Where's he teaching? Can a major sponsor blag a seat in there?

 He's happy to give us a talk on one of those nights (he suggests
 Quantum::Superpositions, but will do another if requested) and would
 like to come and eat/drink with us on the other (jetlag permitting).

I *need* the Q::S talk.

 I'd suggest that we should entertain him on Sunday 

Dim sum!

 and that he should entertain us on Monday. We'll probably need
 somewhere _really_ big for his talk[1]. Any suggestions?

Conway Hall?

-- 
Piers




Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Andy Wardley

On Jan 5, 11:46am, Neil Ford wrote:
 Save having to swap laptops with the projector and Dave wouldn't have
 to time the lightening talks.

But then when would I get to drink cold beer?  :-)


A




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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:21:14PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
 -Original Message-
XML::Schema
  XML::Schema will rule the world
 
 XML::Schema gets my vote

Mine too.

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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley

Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote:
   As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've
   got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know.
 
 Take your pick:
 
 
 [... Frosty Stuff ...]
 
 Ummm. the lot :-)
 
 Save having to swap laptops with the projector and Dave wouldn't have
 to time the lightening talks.

One wonders if we shouldn't arrange a special 'Andy Wardley *really*
shows off' evening.

 Top it off with another 12 steps session from Piers and were sorted.

You say the nicest things.

I want to see someone do a lightning talk on musical interpretations
of common Compsci algorithms.

-- 
Piers




Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 I want to see someone do a lightning talk on musical interpretations
 of common Compsci algorithms.
 

i could clean up Devel::MIDI if you really waned Piers

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copious free time

2001-01-05 Thread Richard Clamp

Well it's now official, and if I didn't tart around you last night then I'm
available for work due to the unfortunate explodingness of oven.

Reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you've got anything for a senior
programmer, with 2-3 years Perl, a bag of unix/sql hammers, and a (silly)
module in the CPAN.

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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley

Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  I want to see someone do a lightning talk on musical interpretations
  of common Compsci algorithms.
  
 
 i could clean up Devel::MIDI if you really waned Piers

Err. That wasn't *quite* what I meant.

-- 
Piers




Re: copious free time

2001-01-05 Thread David Hodgkinson

Natalie Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At 12:54 05/01/01, you wrote:
 Well it's now official, and if I didn't tart around you last night then I'm
 available for work due to the unfortunate explodingness of oven.
 
 Oops - oven too[1]?  Is it something in the water?
 
 Natalie
 
 [1] EmapOnline, h2g2, ...

What happened to h2g2?


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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Andy Wardley

On Jan 5,  2:39pm, Natalie Ford wrote:
 BTW, have you found a job, Andy?

Erm, I don't really know.

On one hand CRE say they're going to make me redundant at the end
of November^WDecember^WJanuary... and on the other hand, they say I'm
now funded 3 times over for the next 2 years, they're going to promote
me[1] and give me a pay rise.

I think there are more exciting things on the horizon that I should
probably be doing in the long term, but for now I've still got a desk
and they're still paying me to write Perl code.


A

[1] Senior Perl Wanker


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Re: Forthcoming Meetings - Summary

2001-01-05 Thread Barbie

 Sun 25th Feb Emergency Social Meeting (Damian Conway)
 Mon 26th Feb Emergency Technical Meeting (Damian Conway)

This could be worth having a holiday for. See you there :)

Barbie




Birmingham Perl Mongers

2001-01-05 Thread Barbie

If anyone is ever in Birmingham on the second Wednesday of every month,
the Birmingham Perl Mongers (there are a few at the moment) will be glad
to indulge in a few pints with you.

For those interested, the next meeting (10th January) will be after
5.30pm in The Hogshead on Newhall Street (just round the corner from St
Phillips Cathedral on Colmore Row).

Have fun!
Barbie




Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:37:43PM +, Natalie Ford wrote:

 At 12:35 05/01/01, David Cantrell wrote:

 Mine too.
 
 AOL Me too ! ;-) /AOL

I should point out that there was no exclamation mark in my reply, and so
it doesn't count as an AOL/.

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RE: Stuff

2001-01-05 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 January 2001 16:17

 D'oh!
 
 Still suffering the jetlag of the train home last night and 
 getting   3 hours sleep (well that's my excuse).
 
 So Dave do you need me to send this to dave [at] dave.org now?

Nope. It's already gone there (and to another 150 or so addresses g)

Dave...


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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:38:50AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 i can do 20 minutes on SOAP (not 20 mins squeezed into 5) ;-)

Important distinction... :-)

dha

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