Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-28 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:53:14AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> 
> > > What is this "off-topic" you speak of?  Is it a custom of your people?
> > 
> > Yeah... I'm on this mailing list called goats-fans, for fans of Goats:
> > the Comic Strip (http://www.goats.com - NOW!), and flaming and off-topic
> > posting leads to the moderators kicking your arse severly.
> 
> Excellent! ... Men, I believe we have a new mission.  How do we sign up
> for htis so-called 'on topic' list ?

Oh god, no... I have enough trouble keeping up with the two lists
separately...

Besides, alex is lying.  No, really...

dha
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OS X & MySQL

2001-04-28 Thread Paul Makepeace

Anyone here have this working on OS X client? The OS X Server one didn't
complaining about some pthreads error:

# ./scripts/mysql_install_db 
dyld: ./bin/my_print_defaults can't open library:
/usr/lib/libpthread.A.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

I'm trying the source d/l route ATM. Google is full of pubic beta / DPx
shit.

How many people here use OS X? Develop for it? (Even vaguely). Recommend
any small-ish clued in lists to join? The omnigroup ones are too huge.
If anyone's interested, I'll host the list if nothing's out there.
(I just bought a cool(ish) domain for it too, OSXphiles.com :-)

Paul



Re: its TRUE I tell you ...

2001-04-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> http://www.mslinux.org/
| Registrant:
| SUID Productions (MSLINUX2-DOM)
|301 N. Market St.
|Dallas, TX 75202
|US
| 
|Domain Name: MSLINUX.ORG
| 
|Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
|   Sysop  (SYS8-ORG)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Milliways Internet
|   5601 Santa Fe Trail
|   Watauga, TX 76148
|   US
|   817-485-1115
| 
|Record last updated on 06-Apr-2001.
|Record expires on 02-Apr-2003.
|Record created on 02-Apr-1999.
|Database last updated on 28-Apr-2001 11:04:00 EDT.
| 
|Domain servers in listed order:
|
|NS1.MILLIWAYS.NET208.128.69.2
|NS2.MILLIWAYS.NET208.128.69.3
|NS3.MILLIWAYS.NET208.128.69.4

I like some of this. Milliways internet (the internet at the end of the
universe?) SUID productions. find / -name productions -perm -0400 ?

so it's true is it? :) You're late by about 28 days, sorry.

MBM

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Re: MySQL -> Oracle wrapper/compat. libs

2001-04-28 Thread Brad Bowman

* Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010428 15:50]:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, someone who Robin's attrib to fscked up wrote:
> > >
> > > > [side note: I did just see a bizarre thread in macosx-dev where
> > > > one guy claimed his FFT code was executing faster in Java than C
> > > > because its interpreter used runtime info to optimize it. Search on
> > > > 'informal benchmarks']
> > >
> > > uh huh .. but he's a Java programmer .. his C could be *REALLY* bad ;) ..
> > > favourite Java quote 'If javas garbage collector is damn good, how come
> > > the whole thing doesn't delete itself upon execution?'
> > 
> > Don't see why this isn't possible.  The idea is that you factor out *all*
> > really unlikely cases (how you know this is based on past performance) and
> > catch them all with some simple test.  Then you (more expensively, but who
> > cares since this happens only once in a blue moon) deal with it and work
> > out exactly what was the problem.
> 
> my basic point was: that given that the FFT code uses similar technicques
> in both its C and Java variants the C variant will win hands down.  if
> you're going to throw in completley new techniques then sure you could
> skew it the other way around .. but in the end (assuming that both
> codesets use similar basic principles) you will not beat the speed of C
> with anything other than hand optimised assembler. Now that is a fact.
 
I think FFTW does a lot of runtime optimising and even stores it
across runs (called 'wisdom', like the name).  But then I think they're using
Ocaml to write the C code, scary.  Also uses whatever extra instructions
are there for a each processor.

http://www.fftw.org/

- FFTW is written in ANSI C. Most of the code, however, was
  automatically generated by a program called genfft, written in the
  Objective Caml dialect of ML. 
- FFTW uses an internal interpreter to adapt itself to a machine.
- FFTW uses a code generator to produce highly-optimized routines
  for computing small transforms.



-- 
Brad Bowman



Re: Boozers in Dublin

2001-04-28 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:41:36AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > with a webcam and they used to all go in and wave at as at exactly 12:30
> > so we could see them when we were in birmingham .. it was sorta nice.
> > err .. no .. I lied .. it was Belfast ... you could commute?
> > 
> 
> I can give local info re: Belfast - i.e. the pub mentioned above was
> probably The Crown, which is actually owned by the National Trust,
> but I don't really know Dublin too well

ah yes ...

http://www.camvista.com/ireland/belfast/crown.php3?pageMode=nonjava

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So I installed Linux!



its TRUE I tell you ...

2001-04-28 Thread Robin Szemeti


http://www.mslinux.org/

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So I installed Linux!



Re: Boozers in Dublin

2001-04-28 Thread Tony Bowden

On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:41:36AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> with a webcam and they used to all go in and wave at as at exactly 12:30
> so we could see them when we were in birmingham .. it was sorta nice.
> err .. no .. I lied .. it was Belfast ... you could commute?
> 

I can give local info re: Belfast - i.e. the pub mentioned above was
probably The Crown, which is actually owned by the National Trust,
but I don't really know Dublin too well

Tony
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Re: Mailbox power ..

2001-04-28 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> Robin Szemeti sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > this mornings powerdown  @ 06:00 .. what time did yours come back up and
> > has it gone up and down again since then .. mines been down twice :(
> 
> Up at midday, which is terrible as the box wasn't supposed to be
> affected due to a UPS. However, not many UPS's last six hours. Bad
> Mailbox!

well I did a bit better .. i think

Apr 28 08:23:17  restart.
Apr 28 09:44:45  restart.
Apr 28 11:26:23  restart. 

apparenlty it should now be stable.

so yes, non-ideal ... but .. its still bloody good value. :)

any named experts out there? ... any ideas why named complains it cant
find hints for rootserver even though I have (I thought) set up as forward
only ...

my . zone looks like:

zone "." in {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { x.x.x.x; y.y.y.y; };
}; 

yet there is much muttering and grumbling in /var/log/messages about lack
of hints ... I thought the absence of a 'type cache' would prevent that
.. apparently not  ( its bind 9.1 btw )

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Mailbox power ..

2001-04-28 Thread Leon Brocard

Robin Szemeti sent the following bits through the ether:

> this mornings powerdown  @ 06:00 .. what time did yours come back up and
> has it gone up and down again since then .. mines been down twice :(

Up at midday, which is terrible as the box wasn't supposed to be
affected due to a UPS. However, not many UPS's last six hours. Bad
Mailbox!

Leon
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... DOC files? We don't need NO STINKIN' DOC FILES!



Mailbox power ..

2001-04-28 Thread Robin Szemeti

umm ...

so .. anyone else with a server at Mailbox (ISTR there were a few)

this mornings powerdown  @ 06:00 .. what time did yours come back up and
has it gone up and down again since then .. mines been down twice :(

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!