New Llama

2001-05-03 Thread Cross David - dcross


A page about the new edition of Learning Perl has appeared on the ORA site:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lperl3/

Should be out in time for TPC.

Dave...

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RE: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:36 AM

 Chris Devers writes:
  Cousin site to http://www.c-cup.com/, which seems to be down at the
moment. 
  
  Typical example: Charisma Carpenter Guide to Selected Linux Software
  http://www.c-cup.com/linux/software-that-works.html
 
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.c-cup.com/linux/software-that-work
s.html)
 
 On the subject of C.C., let me just say that last night's Angel had
 her in a bikini for an exploitative commercial she was in.
 
 Aie caramba!

For those of you following on Sky One, remember that you're only ten days
behind the US right now - so that episode will be shown a week on Friday.

For those of you following on terrestial TV - $deity knows where or when
Angel series 2 will be shown.

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Re: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Dean

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:35:42PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 On the subject of C.C., let me just say that last night's Angel had
 her in a bikini for an exploitative commercial she was in.

You do realise that i have to wait for over six months to see this don't
you.

Bastard. :)

Dean
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Re: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Dean

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:14:18AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 Cousin site to http://www.c-cup.com/, which seems to be down at the moment. 

It looks like its still down and the Google cache lacks images :(

  Typical example: Charisma Carpenter Guide to Selected Linux Software

 For those of you following on Sky One, remember that you're only ten days
 behind the US right now - so that episode will be shown a week on Friday.

Now who do i know with Sky ;)

 For those of you following on terrestial TV - $deity knows where or when
 Angel series 2 will be shown.

That would be me. Looks like the videos will be out before the show comes
on.

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Re: tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th

2001-05-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/05 10:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
 On Wed, 2 May 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1307000/1307103.stm
 
  for those who don't get a kick out of seeing server errors :)
 
 Which we all know you don't ever get on news.bbc.co.ukeven when a page
 you're looking for doesn't exist

good grief, neither it does. what can they be thinking?

struan



Re: TPC Travel

2001-05-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That's about the same prices that I'm seeing on ebookers, deckchair and
 expedia. I may be prepared to pay a little more for a) a direct flight and
 b) a better known airline :)

Virgin are trying it on: £1200!

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Simon Wistow

Chris Heathcote wrote:

 Off the top of my head:
 ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
 also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.


Smiths isn't really a cocktail bar IIRC. 

Cocktails at the Marriot (aka the old County Hall) aren't unbelievably
expensive.

For true geekdom go get cocktails go to Cynthia's Cyberbar

http://www.cynbar.co.uk/

where you are served cocktails by a robot.

As opposed to being served coffee by a drone at Starbucks.



Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/05 12:42 +0100 Simon Wistow said:
 Chris Heathcote wrote:
 
  Off the top of my head:
  ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
  also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.
 
 For true geekdom go get cocktails go to Cynthia's Cyberbar
 
 http://www.cynbar.co.uk/
 
 where you are served cocktails by a robot.

although poss not on a sunday afternoon. certainly no robotic serving
of a saturday afternoon (although this was 1ish so maybe a bit early)
plus all that shiny metal surface decor is very unpleasant very
quickly.

struan



Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Robin Houston

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:47:25AM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
 Off the top of my head:
 ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
 also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.
 
 Dunno about Sun afternoon opening on all those...

The ICA bar is certainly open on Sunday afternoon, but will be
serving more coffee than cocktails. I suppose they'd make you
cocktails if you asked, but I wonder how expertly...

 .robin.

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-30

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Mison

On 03/05/2001 at 13:56 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote parenthetically:

some of London.pm were over in NYC - is anyone going to write a report?

Yes, eventually; I sent a message about this earlier but forgot to mung
the sender address so it'll need approving (Mr Stowe?) but the plan is
photos and some text at some point.

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread James Powell

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:42:40PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
 Chris Heathcote wrote:
 
  Off the top of my head:
  ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
  also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.
 
 
 Smiths isn't really a cocktail bar IIRC. 

Cocktails on the first floor there aren't bad.

If you like an impressive view but condescending service,
try Bar 24 in Tower 42 (ie Natwest).

Otherwise I go with the Match recommendation.

jp



RE: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Mison

On 03/05/2001 at 09:14 +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:

 On the subject of C.C., let me just say that last night's Angel had
 her in a bikini for an exploitative commercial she was in.

For those of you following on Sky One, remember that you're only ten days
behind the US right now - so that episode will be shown a week on Friday.

Yes, I finally found out that new Buffy and Angel are shown on Tuesday
nights in the US, the one day of the week we weren't there. (On that
subject, thanks to David Adler for the hospitality, and to Lucille for
all the organisation, and to NY for being big and not too scary, and to
the other London.pm-ers who made it over so I wasn't freaked out by
exploring something on my own.)

I'll try to sort out photos (although I didn't take any at NY.pm) and
some sort of documentary web page, for anyone who cares, at some point
in the next, sigh, four weeks? Unlike celia, who's got some up anyway
(and they're probably better too:
http://shadowgirl.net/photos/NYC-apr-2001/).

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-30

2001-05-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 3 May 2001, Paul Mison wrote:

 On 03/05/2001 at 13:56 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote parenthetically:

 some of London.pm were over in NYC - is anyone going to write a report?

 Yes, eventually; I sent a message about this earlier but forgot to mung
 the sender address so it'll need approving (Mr Stowe?)


Done.

/J\




Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-30

2001-05-03 Thread Leon Brocard

Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:

 I missed the mention that london-list may be moving to london.pm.org at some
 point.

There's no point in mentioning it again until it happens, surely.
So, when's it gonna happen list-meisters?

Leon
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Re: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Simon Wistow

Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
 I'll get my photos up before too long. But I do need to get them developed
 the old fashioned way, so if anyone wants to prevent photos taken on the
 Staten Island Ferry from being published then they still have a few days to
 approach me with an appropriate bribe.

Well I could mention that you were a big jessie on the roller coaster at
Coney Island ... except that I've jsut done that. Ah. 



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RE: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:47 PM

 Cross David - dcross wrote:
  
  I'll get my photos up before too long. But I do need to get them
developed
  the old fashioned way, so if anyone wants to prevent photos taken on the
  Staten Island Ferry from being published then they still have a few days
to
  approach me with an appropriate bribe.
 
 Well I could mention that you were a big jessie on the roller coaster at
 Coney Island ... except that I've jsut done that. Ah. 

At least _I_ was on the roller coaster at Coney Island - unlike some people
I could mention. And I'm hoping that Gill has the photo to prove it :)

 Have I ever mentioned that I really like you and have always respected
 and admired you?

Heh! That's more like it :)

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Re: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this

2001-05-03 Thread Simon Wistow

Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
 At least _I_ was on the roller coaster at Coney Island - unlike some people
 I could mention. And I'm hoping that Gill has the photo to prove it :)

I'd have been on it too if I hadn't needed to go back to Manhattan.

Gah, publish and be damned Cross.



Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Chris Heathcote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 on 3/5/01 12:48 pm, Robin Houston wrote:
 
  The ICA bar is certainly open on Sunday afternoon, but will be
  serving more coffee than cocktails. I suppose they'd make you
  cocktails if you asked, but I wonder how expertly...
 
 They always have one person on who tends to know what they're doing...
 

I cannot recommend the ICA enough for cocktails, on many scouting
trips before and after (don't ask why i need to scout afterwards)
Y::E191c i had a variety of cocktails and they were all very very
good. However the best place to get margharitas[1] is the argentinian
steak bar called `gaucho grill', if anyone wants to leave early
from the next social meeting to go there let me know and i'll book
a table - its the best steak in the UK, beautiful rare, awesome
chips with, very very nice indeed - never get the small steak
as you will kick yourself when you taste it


[1] i have no idea to spell them, all the letters seem to jumble
together after a few of said drink
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Microsoft.FUKT

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Makepeace

``Microsoft is preparing a broad campaign countering the movement to give
away and share software code, arguing that it potentially undermines
the intellectual property of countries and companies. At the same time,
the company is acknowledging that it is feeling pressure from the
freely shared alternatives to its commercial software.''

This is great news for people who aren't huge fans of Redmond Empire --
not only is the spinfo in the article largely wrong (but superficially
plausible, typical FUD) but there's nothing they can do about it!
They're in trouble and they know it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/03/technology/03SOFT.html

user/pass london.pm/london.pm

Paul




Apocalypse Two

2001-05-03 Thread Robin Houston

http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/03/wall.html

Some quite exciting stuff in there. Array dereferencing will be
@foo[23] rather than $foo[23]. Everything will be an object (or at
least work like one). No more typeglobs. User-definable quoting
operators.

And much, much more!

 .robin.

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Leon Brocard

Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:

 However the best place to get margharitas[1] is the argentinian
 steak bar called `gaucho grill', if anyone wants to leave early
 from the next social meeting to go there let me know and i'll book
 a table - its the best steak in the UK

I have to agree with this. The bar isn't terribly large (at least not
in the one off Regent's Stree), but the cocktails are *lovely* and the
steak *gorgeous*. The theme is a bit, errr, loud (cow-style seats
etc.) and it's fairly dark (err, intimate), but it's a lovely (not
cheap) place.

Oh, and I'm feeling generous, so I'll buy a drink for the first person
to place the quote in my .signature ;-) Now if only I could find a
copy of this...

Leon
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Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread David Cantrell

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:25:16PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:

 Oh, and I'm feeling generous, so I'll buy a drink for the first person
 to place the quote in my .signature ;-) Now if only I could find a
 copy of this...
 
 ... Did you know there's a guy living in our closet?

Real Genius.

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Ball

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:41:18PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 Ok, let's stop there: that's Roger, evildave, and Simon I owe drinks
 to. What I want to know is why university didn't turn up to be exactly
 like Real Genius...

Yeah, it totally su..

fx: Chris screams and jumps out of the way of an out-of-control toboggan-y
thing.

:)

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Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:34:56PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest
  operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete

10.0.2 shipped yesterday and fixed this, fyi...

The burn CD button in iTunes is a pulsing biohazard sign just like
Duke Nukem expansion pak. Too c00l.

P



Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 etc.) and it's fairly dark (err, intimate), but it's a lovely (not
 cheap) place.
 
 Oh, and I'm feeling generous, so I'll buy a drink for the first person
 to place the quote in my .signature ;-) Now if only I could find a
 copy of this...
 

real genius

as for the steak, i already have one off list mail booking a slot,
so if you want a place mail me off list and i'll do a count and
book on tuesdayish

to firm up on details, it will cost about 20 quid a head unless
you drink a lot of cocktails, and we will leave from PO about
9.30ish to arrive for 10/10.15ish at the steak place

leon are you coming? if so mail me off list or else i get
confused

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