Re: PIMB THC-shirts
From: "Steve Mynott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > THC isn't water soluble at all which is why you have to dissolve the > stuff in hot fat before cooking it. It is soluble, especially in smoke form. Perhaps not *miscible* but certainly it'll end up in suspension. Not much admittedly, but it is and crucially from a health angle, more so than tar. If you don't think so, try drinking some bong water :-) Paul
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
On Jan 19, 9:39am, Steve Mynott wrote: > THC isn't water soluble at all which is why you have to dissolve the > stuff in hot fat before cooking it. I belive that's true, but according to the paper I just found, presumably the one Paul was referring to, the paper suggests that some THC *is* lost when using a bong. http://www.ukcia.org/lib/pipes.htm But note that the paper doesn't offer or claim any scientific evidence to back this up, merely notes that "This suggests...". I suspect the goodies are getting stuck to the bowl, pipe, dirt and tar particles in the water, but not actually dissolving the water as such. If I were the kind of person to partake in such affairs, I'd suggest that some objective testing is required. But of course, I wouldn't want to indulge in any activity which our wise and esteemed goverments have decided is dangerous, immoral and quite sensibly illegal. Nor would I want to encourage anyone else to break the law. Note that I also refrain from drinking tea as it's known to be a gateway drug, according to the clear evidence that 97.2% of all heroin addicts drank tea before progressing onto harder substance abuse. Be warned people! Stick with tobacco, alcohol and the other drugs which have been deemed safe enough for us to be trusted with. A -- Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in > > the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing > > So do people smoke the stuff (as opposed to consumption) for convenience > or maybe the familiarity of the ritual of smoking? Yes and because the effects are faster to notice when smoked and it's less effort than cooking. THC isn't water soluble at all which is why you have to dissolve the stuff in hot fat before cooking it. The effects are different eaten -- stronger, longer lasting and more hallucinogenic. This is either an advantage or disadvantage depending on your point of view. -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] if we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? - albert einstein
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
* Redvers Davies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in > > the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing > > So do people smoke the stuff (as opposed to consumption) for convenience > or maybe the familiarity of the ritual of smoking? IIRC from academic research, if you eat/drink the active ingredient is absorbed by your liver first and broken down a little so is less effective that smoking it others may be able to explain this better -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
> Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in > the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing So do people smoke the stuff (as opposed to consumption) for convenience or maybe the familiarity of the ritual of smoking?
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
From: "Andy Wardley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > More effective, yes, because none of the THC is lost to the atmosphere. > However, it takes an hour or so to notice the effects coming on and > when they do, there's no way to stop them. So you might end up ingesting > twice as much as you planned, which you may (or may not :-) consider > wasteful if half as much would have had the desired effect. A friend (*ahem*) lost an entire 24hr period at Glastonbury owing to a mistakenly consuming a 'teenth spilt between two people on a peanut butter sandwich. Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing the good:bad ratio. There is a paper somewhere on http://www.norml.org/ about this. Paul
Re: PIMB THC-shirts
On Jan 17, 4:05pm, Redvers Davies wrote: > Myself and a couple of friends of mine were talking about this before > and someone suggested that ingestion in cakes was healthier still and > more "effective". Healthier, certainly. Smoking anything is bad for your respiratory tract and lungs. However, there is evidence to suggest that smoking weed is nothing like as harmful as smoking tobacco. It's not the tar or the nicotine in tobacco that gives you lung cancer, but the radiation... More effective, yes, because none of the THC is lost to the atmosphere. However, it takes an hour or so to notice the effects coming on and when they do, there's no way to stop them. So you might end up ingesting twice as much as you planned, which you may (or may not :-) consider wasteful if half as much would have had the desired effect. Or so I've been told. :-)= A -- Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
