Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 07:32:22AM +0100, Jerome Alet wrote: I don't understand why, sorry. In fact I now understand, but I don't see a big difference in reality. Say with your solution, the user can still print one 1000 pages document even if his quota allows him to print only 20. With mine I agree he can print 15 * 1000 pages documents in this situation, but in reality will this ever happen ? He would be in serious debt anyway since accounting is still done. That is of no interest to the orderer of this system. Quota is simply impressions, same for all printers. The cost of the job can not be determined before the job has completed on the printer. This is not correct (I understand you may not need it though) : even with only ghostview you can know in advance how many pages there are in your document, and so its cost. You can always do a more or less accurate estimation using ghostscript, that's what I meant. This doesn't modify the accounting datas in any way, this just informs the user in advance, and only on his request. Say you have different printers, for each one you define some cost per page and/or per job. For example you've got two laser printers, one for which the toner cartrige costs much more than for the other one, but you use the same paper in both. The user can then easily learn on which printer the job is cheaper for him and choose the printer accordingly. bye, Jerome Alet -- A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. - RMS - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Jerome Alet wrote: JA If you have several printers, like 15, it can leave a huge window for JA abuse. My solution limits this window by requireing extra steps to be JA taken to abuse it. JA JA I don't understand why, sorry. The abuse or what? - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Jerome Alet wrote: JA Say with your solution, the user can still print one 1000 pages JA document even if his quota allows him to print only 20. Yes, which is defined as acceptable in the requirements speficiation of the system. JA With mine I agree he can print 15 * 1000 pages documents in this JA situation, but in reality will this ever happen ? He would be in JA serious debt anyway since accounting is still done. The thing is, printers go off-line, they go off to service (or get on location service). When replacing toner or doing repairs you manually print test pages on the printer. That's why it is nice to have accounting finished at the end of the job. Otherwise some poor user will get to pay for the test pages. JA This is not correct (I understand you may not need it though) : even JA with only ghostview you can know in advance how many pages there are JA in your document, and so its cost. But there is no way to notify a user of this via the lp protocol and offer a yes/no question. JA Say you have different printers, for each one you define some cost per JA page and/or per job. For example you've got two laser printers, one JA for which the toner cartrige costs much more than for the other one, JA but you use the same paper in both. The user can then easily learn on JA which printer the job is cheaper for him and choose the printer JA accordingly. True, but we don't get that advanced. Due to the amount we print the cost per page pretty much averages out, black or colour prints. Also, this is less important, as a black printout may cost more (if it is 100% black) than a colour one (if it is 1% coloured). Also, our students do not have much choice. All printers are the same brand and they have default printes defined depending on workstation and lab. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:20:21AM +0100, Henrik Edlund wrote: JA This is not correct (I understand you may not need it though) : even JA with only ghostview you can know in advance how many pages there are JA in your document, and so its cost. But there is no way to notify a user of this via the lp protocol and offer a yes/no question. right. I meant (I sent incomplete messages all the time) it's possible and may be useful to have an external command to do this, which is what PyKota does, or have a dedicated print queue set up for this, which is what PrintBill does IIRC Also, our students do not have much choice. All printers are the same brand and they have default printes defined depending on workstation and lab. ok. Jerome Alet -- A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. - RMS - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
Jerome Alet wrote: The only problem I can see with SNMP is that it doesn't allow the kind of accounting offered by PrintBill, which keeps records about ink coverage in all colors. PostScript and paper jams problems apart, this provides fair accounting for people who print mostly black text wrt people who always print their family color pictures... I've done some testing with retrieving ink levels from SNMP enabled printers (I've only got two very similar HPs, 2100 and 2200, unfortunately) but this is not precise enough : full, low, middle is the sort of thing I get. Xerox Phaser printers do job accounting of the percentage of each color supply, and even the maintenance kit, to a ridiculous number of decimal places - all accessible via SNMP. The good thing about this is that somebody who is printing text doesn't have to pay the same rate as somebody who is printing a full coverage image. The bad thing is that nobody knows what they are going to be charged ahead of time. We don't use it at the moment. -Rick -- |Rick Cochran phone: 607-255-7618| |Cornell CIT - Systems Operations - Net-Print FAX: 607-255-8521| |730 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Jim Trocki wrote: JT from my experience those enterprise level printers suck, too. In what way? Well, I've found the Sharp AR-651 and AR-507 have essentially broken PJL support, at least for what I would like to use it for, which is job management, accounting, and error reporting. @PJL INFO PAGECOUNT always reports 0, and if ustatus is enabled and the printer has been put into postscript mode via @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE, it ignores subsequent PJL UEL sequences, so you're hosed until you reset the device. ifhp rightly bails on jobs because it can't kick the printer back into PJL mode to re-obtain sync, and close(2) on the socket will put the device's network interface into a state where subsequent connection initiations to tcp port 9100 return an RST until you power-cycle the printer. The newly-added SNMP hooks in ifhp enable you to get around some of these bugs, but I expect enterprise level printers to work properly in the first place, and not require meticulous experimentation to identify the bugs so you can employ work-arounds to get them to operate in a reasonable manner. I also expect enterprise level printers to be very robust in their error reporting and recovery capabilities. The network interfaces in these Sharp models don't support access-control lists, so you'd have to use some external packet filtering or vlan mechanism to restrict who can send jobs to the printers. There is also no automated configuration mechanism, so you have to use a silly web browser to configure each one. OTOH, these printers seem to work just fine if you blast the jobs over via the LPD protocol, completely ignoring any printing or device errors, and doing no per-job page accounting. I imagine this is what 99% of customers do. I also get the impression that most shops have their Windows clients send jobs directly to the printers via the LPD protocol, which I think is utterly ridiculous. The other enterprise printers which I've used are Savin/Ricoh 2055DP, 9955DP, and 9965DP. These also have dodgy PJL support, but they work acceptably if you use ifhp's PostScript pagecount and status and sync mechanisms. They do a lousy job of reporting errors via PJL and PostScript mechanisms. The thing behaves the same if it is out of paper, jammed, or not even plugged in to the electrical outlet. The internal network interface was so shoddy that the only way I could increase the reliability was to replace it with an external Jetdirect. Even though the engine is rated for 55ppm throughput (on the 2055dp model), PostScript processing and rasterization system is relatively weak, which is the limiting factor. Of course you should always do some testing before buying. I borrowed printers from Canon, HP and Xerox during two months when I did my testing. Mid-range models, from 150,000 pages per month and up. After that, I had a pretty good basis on what printers the department should buy next. And which models tested out favorably? What are your requirements, and what is your application? I'm evaluating an HP 9000MFP at the moment, and so far it has been working very well with the latest ifhp. 7500+ pages have been processed (about 2000 have been through ifhp, the rest photocopies), and no jobs have failed. It has jammed once or twice (maybe someone fed it cardboard), it told me about it, and it recovered gracefully afterwards. The Jetdirect network interface is actually quite good to work with, since I can configure it via TFTP on bootup (which makes configuration automation possible), it supports limited ACLs (which are good enough for my purposes), the SNMP and PJL support is quite good. It required no tweaking to fit into my existing infrastructure, and all of my custom reporting and monitoring tools worked perfectly with it. The consumables cost is relatively high, though. One toner cart is rated for 30k pages at 2% coverage and lists for about 250USD. So far the device tells me the historical coverage has been 4% for our jobs, and it estimates that the toner is half gone, so it seems to be rather accurate with its estimations. We typically push 30k pages per month through the most heavily-used copier/printers we have, so that's somewhere between 1 and 2 toner carts per month. It would be nice if it had a higher toner capacity. It also requires a fuser maintenance kit at 350k pages, which costs about $360. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe
LPRng: LISA meets San Diego Wildfires OR Why I have not replied to my email
Large Installation System Admins (LISA) Meets The Crest/Pine/San Diego Fire Part 1 1 November, 2003 Patrick (The truth? You won't BELIEVE the truth) Powell 1. Introduction The last week has been a little bit hectic, here in San Diego, CA. Basically, about 25% of the County of San Diego burned down. 2,500 homes lost, 10,000 refugees, but only 16 people killed. The pictures you might have seen on TV (if you saw them), if anything, understated the size and scope of the problems and devastation. I hope to give you an idea of the extent, size, and location of the fires, and how they had a direct personal effect on myself, and 1200 attendees at the LISA conference (25 Oct 2003 - 31 Oct 2003). I am putting down my thoughts and events as I can recall them, and hope that this gives a flavor of the action. See http://www.esri.com/news/pressroom/firemaps.htmlfora really complete set of maps. Due to my being dragged away from my computer and forced to hike, walk, and exercise to act as a photo prop (Stand on the top of the mountain and smile, Patrick. Pull in your tummy, it looks awful!), I am personally aquainted with many of the regions described here. 2. The Start of It All On Saturday, 25 Oct,2003,someidiot^H^H^H^H hunter^H^H^H^H^H^H hiker got lost in the mountains. According to reports in the media, he was lost, suffering from dehydration, and started the fire to attract attention. The fire was started in a region that was covered with scrub bush called chapparel. The most common bushes in this area are the creosote (can you say 'insect proofing oil finish?') and greasewood - I kid you not!. Said doofus apparently did not start the fire in the middle of a cleared area, but just lit the nearest bushes on fire. (Note: the later information was provided by a local member of the California Department of Forestry, who was eating my donuts at the time. The press has been stunningly silent on the causes of the fire, but this fellow was more than eager to detail the shortcomings of said idiot^h^h^h^h gentleman in terms that were less than complimentary to his father, mother, pet dog, cat, and other family members. Not to mention a couple of copy cat fires that were later set by arsonists. But I digress.) Fire! 1 1 Nov 2003 Well, he was located about an hour later, near a 500 sq meter (550 square yard) blaze, taken out of the area, and a fire crew was sent in. 3. The Santa-Ana Winds To complicate the situation, San Diego is located between the Pacific Ocean on the West and the interior of California on the East. About 100 miles (120 km) East of San Diego is the Anza-Borrego Desert and the Salton Sea. The Anza- Borrego Desert State Park Desert Garden regularly reaches temperatures of 40C (104) in September and October. The relative humidity is usually less than 10%. From 18 to 25 October they were having a heat wave as well. Now for the exciting part. At this time of the year, and sometimes during the later winter months, we get a pressure inversion. The air pressure over the Anza-Borego desert increases and the air pressure over the ocean decreases. The normal West to East wind, nicely cooled by the ocean and laden with moisture (to us here in San Diego 40% relative humidity is WET, guys) changes to an East to West wind. These winds usually have 2% to 3% (yes, that is two to three percent) relative humidy, and are extremely strong - 40kmp to 80kmp (25 to 50 mph). Gusts up to 60 mph (100 kmph) are not uncommon, and there are permanent wind advisory signs on the local highways. These winds are called the Santa Ana winds, and are dreaded by most people with allergies, as they are not only hot and dry, but loaded with dust and pollen. By the time the fire crews got to the small blaze, which was now a very large blaze, they were facing the following: (1) Totally dry brush that had not been burned for 20 years. (2) Less than 10% humidity. And dropping. (3) Mountainous terrain with few if any roads. (4) 50 kmph winds to the WEST, blowing directly towards San Diego. (5) Major population centers within 5 miles (7 km) in any direction. (6) Many of the fire crews had left on Tuesday (four days before) to fight two other fires - one on Camp Pendleton, about 35 miles (50km) north of San Diego and another fire to the north in San Bernadino County, about 90 miles (110 km) north. These fires Fire! 2 1 Nov 2003 were not under control as of Friday, and one big fire was heading towards the city of Riverside. The fire crews that
LPRng: Switching to LPRng on RedHat 9
I finally got around to updating this note and posting. The redhat-switch-printer program allows you to switch between LPRng and CUPS on RedHat 9. I looked at their system, which apparently was taken from Debian, and say 'Hats off to the Debian Folks, you clevel devils, you! Idea: (If you have the RedHat 9 installed, do 'man alternatives' to get better details on how they do switching.) The idea is that you have a set of utiltity functions that are the same for several packages: functionLPRng CUPS lpr lpr.LPRng lpr.cups lp lp.LPRng lp.cups ... You have a list of these 'alternatives' somewhere, say: print= lpr lp lpq lprm lpc And a program, say 'alternatives', so when you do: alternatives --print LPRng it makes the 'print' utilities symbolic links to the lpr.LPRng, lp.LPRng, etc. alternatives --print cups it makes the 'print' utilities symbolic links to the lpr.cups, lp.cups, etc. Perhaps everybody knows about this, but I thought it was quite clever. Ummm... I will probably add a 'UpdateRedHat' script that will check to see if there are the lpr.LPRng files and then set the installation paths to the appropriate locations. Too bad that other LINUX/*BSD/*aris distributions do not have/adopt the same technology as Debian/RedHat/*whatever. Patrick - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
LPRng: Re: lprng and form feeds
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 30 14:50:08 2003 Subject: lprng and form feeds To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:49:48 +1100 Patrick, Hope you don't mind me emailing you about my problem/issue. I have an AIX system using LPRNG 3.8.21. This is the first time we have ever used LPRNG for printing. Everything is working fine except for some dot matrix printers. The problem we have is that when print jobs are sent to the printers in question, there is no form feed at the end. This is ok for one off print jobs, but when the customer has a big multiple print job the alignment is being screwed. The configuration we have is as follows: .common: :sd=/app/lprng/spool/%P: :sh:mx=0:mc=0: :lf=/app/lprng/lperr: dotrsa4: :tc=.common: :rm=dotrsa4: :rp=dotrsa4: :ff_separator: :sf@:fq: What am I doing wrong? What else can I do? I need to get a form feed sent to the dot matrix printers at the end of each print job. Hope you can help me. regards Stuart Jones This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. # Purpose: print a form feed when device is closed # default fq@ (FLAG off) # Purpose: no form feed separator between job files # default sf (FLAG on) # Purpose: send a form feed (value set by ff) between files of a job # default ff_separator@ (FLAG off) Try: dotrsa4: :tc=.common: :rm=dotrsa4: :rp=dotrsa4: :ff_separator:fq: No sf@ Patrick Patrick - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Request for Comments: Printer Accounting Methods
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Jim Trocki wrote: JT Well, I've found the Sharp AR-651 and AR-507 have essentially broken JT PJL support, at least for what I would like to use it for, which is I was talking about SNMP support, not PJL though. JT And which models tested out favorably? What are your requirements, JT and what is your application? HP 4300 and Xerox 4400DT fitted our price range and had good SNMP implementation. The HP failed against the Xerox on two accounts, it was too plastic (had too many moving parts for no reason and external duplex unit that could easily be stolen) and it had a hideous web interface. Our requirement were 150,000 ppm, Postscript 3 (true Adobe preferly, not emulation), and rugged to fit in a student/research environment. The other nice thing with Xerox is that they license a true Adobe Postscript engine. HPs emulation has been to fail on a lot of PS files. With the extra hard drive (see below) you get all the 130+ PS3 recommended fonts (this includes the common Windows ones). (HP also complained after one month that they wanted their printer back, so that became a small minus in their protocol, bad customer relations. Xerox on the other hand delivered all kinds of modelsm for testing, free paper and toner to test with and free pre-buy technical support channel.) JT The consumables cost is relatively high, though. One toner cart is rated JT for 30k pages at 2% coverage and lists for about 250USD. So far the We pay about 160 Euro for a high-cap 15000 pages at 5% toner cartridges for the Xerox 4400. We change toner cartridges about every 3rd day in every printer. Our coverage is at average 4%. JT capacity. It also requires a fuser maintenance kit at 350k pages, which JT costs about $360. We got 3 years on location service with fusers included (changed about every other month) in the price we paid for each 4400DT (with extra font hard drive). Our price was about 2600 Euro per printer. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: config problem
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LPRng - Print Spooler (http://www.lprng.com)
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 5 06:09:12 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:13:09 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patrick Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LPRng: config problem
Patrick:
I built lprng and lprngtool, and the filter from updated ports on Freebsd
5.1 release. When I start lprngtool I get an Error popup window that
says:
Error executing command 'lpq -a -s'
pq: illegal option -- s
usage: lpq [-a] [-l] [-Pprinter] [user ...] [job ...]
checkpc -V -f reports:
duron# checkpc -V -f
LPRng-3.8.21, Copyright 1988-2002 Patrick Powell, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Checking for configuration files '/usr/local/etc/lpd.conf'
found '/usr/local/etc/lpd.conf', mod 0100644
Checking for printcap files '/etc/printcap'
Checking for lpd only printcap files '/usr/local/etc/lpd_printcap'
DaemonUID 1, DaemonGID 1
Using Config file '/usr/local/etc/lpd.conf'
LPD lockfile '/var/run/lpd.515'
.names
.all
#Printcap Information
Checking printcap info
duron#
When I click view printers and double click brother|lp I get:
Error executing command 'lpq -Pbrother'
lpq: printer not found
child process exited abnormally
in a dialog box with an OK button, which when clicked brings up the Job
Qeue for brother window. And then usually the application crashes.
Am I having unusual problems, or is this normal for configuration? Thanks
for your help.
Andy
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Please forgive my ignorance as I am new to this software. I am trying to
configure lprng on FreeBSD 5.1 release. I built the software from ports
(lprng, lprngtools, and the filter). Everything seemed to compile and
install fine. However, the first problem I ran into was this. When I
execute checkpc I get this message:
bash-2.05b# checkpc -f
Warning - brother: cannot open lp device '/dev/lpt0' - Permission denied
I have been through the manual several times, and while it mentions this
message being serious it does not explain how to correct it. So, I'm
stuck at this point. I have attached a screenshot file withe the
LPRngtool running in the hopes that this will provide info to help
troubleshoot the problem. Please let me know if any other info is needed
to diagnose the problem. The printer I'm trying to configure is a Brother
1440 connected directly to the printer port via an IEEE 1284 printer
cable.
Do the following:
cd /dev
ls -l lpt*
h110: {852} % ls -l /dev/lpt*
crw--- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Oct 4 09:19 /dev/lpt0
crw--- 1 root wheel 16, 128 Oct 4 09:19 /dev/lpt0.ctl
Note that these devices are owned by root/wheel. The lpd process runs
as user daemon (I suspect). So you have the following choices:
chmod 666 /dev/lpt* - Brutal
chown daemon /dev/lpt*
You will probably have similar problems with serial ports as well.
Patrick Powell Astart Technologies
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LPRng: HP8550
Has anyone printed to an HP8550? I am having a problem where the pjl_done_msg is being printed out (on paper) instead of to the LED display. I have tried all kinds of ways to turn this off (E.g. pjl_done_msg@) but nothing has worked. Any ideas?? Barton Wold Sr. IT Analyst United Defense L.P. **CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE** The information contained in this e-mail may be proprietary and/or privileged and is intended for the sole use of the individual or organization named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, any review, copying or distribution of this e-mail and its attachments, if any, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
LPRng: Xerox Phaser 7300N
Does anyone have a good ifhp def for this beast (better than phaser?) _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Switching to LPRng on RedHat 9
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 07:59:39AM -0800, Patrick Powell wrote: The redhat-switch-printer program allows you to switch between LPRng and CUPS on RedHat 9. I looked at their system, which apparently was taken from Debian, and say 'Hats off to the Debian Folks, you clevel devils, you! Ironically the Debian lprng package doesn't do this, though they are used extensively elsewhere. I'll talk to my fellow *lpr* maintainers about putting something like this in. Currently, you cannot install lpr, lprng and cupsys-bsd on a Debian system at the same time. - Craig -- Craig Small GnuPG:1C1B D893 1418 2AF4 45EE 95CB C76C E5AC 12CA DFA5 Eye-Net Consulting http://www.enc.com.au/ MIEE Debian developer csmall at : enc.com.au ieee.org debian.org - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
