Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Client IP Addresses

2007-11-04 Thread Anselm Martin Hoffmeister
Am Freitag, den 02.11.2007, 07:41 -0700 schrieb Mel Wade:

 Interesting concept.  The trick would be to tie the session to the specific
 IP address.

And here the problem begins. If you want an application to use a
specific IP on outgoing packets, usually that app should use the
bind() call on the network connection to assign itself an IP and port
number. If the app does not (most probably, firefox), this will just not
happen. You could try with LD_PRELOAD, and other hacks, of course.

I just had another idea, which I cannot verify right now because I do
not have full NAT enabled on this machine.

If you define an additional loopback interface like this

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig lo:1 172.29.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 up

you gain 65534 local IP addresses. Assume you have only one LTSP server,
one proxy and no more machines that are important, like this:

[internet] -- [proxy] -- [ltsp-server] -- [terminals]

You could setup your proxy with an additional route:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# route add -net 172.29.0.0/16 gw 10.0.200.1
(where 10.0.200.1 is the outward interface IP of the ltsp server)

So your proxy should also be able to ping the IP addresses in the
172.29/16 range. This saves you from having countless virtual interfaces
and, in one go, gives you lots of IP addresses, so that you could have a
mapping userid(numeric)- ip-address.

Let us assume that all user ids 500 and above (up to a fixed number),
and all are members in the users group (gid 100).
Then use the following iptables commands for the OUTPUT chain:

iptables -N rewriteip
iptables -A OUTPUT --gid-owner 100 -j rewriteip
iptables -A rewriteip --uid-owner 500 -j SAME --to 172.29.1.244
iptables -A rewriteip --uid-owner 501 -j SAME --to 172.29.1.245
iptables -A rewriteip --uid-owner 502 -j SAME --to 172.29.1.246
... ( I calculated the IP such that 172.29.x.y = uid (256*x + y) )

I cannot test this at the moment. Perhaps someone can tell wether that
sounds reasonable...

Best regards
Anselm


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[Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 Ubuntu feisty

2007-11-04 Thread ugh ugher
Hi 
I hope someone here can help me out. I'v been stuck on
this for a while. I'm running LTSP5 Ubuntu feisty. Now
to the question.
How can I run multiple x sessions on LTSP? I tried in
the lts.conf

SCREEN_07=ldm
SCREEN_08=ldm
I also tried startx and it does just that starts x
with a gray screen.
When I do it with ldm I can log onto the first
session, then when I go to log on the secondit
starts to logon and the just kicks me back out. If I
set one of the screens to
SCREEN_09=startx all i get is a gray screen with an x
courssor. If I set it to SCREEN_10=shell I get the
console, but if I type startx -- :01 it fails.

Any ideas???
I'm trying to use this for automation, and If I could
use this I could use one machine in place of four by
using virtualization

I also replaced ldm with gdm at one point, and I did
an edit to the gdm.conf. Where you comment out
0=Standard, and the uncomment out 0=Chooser. I than
added two more choosers so it would look like this.
0=Chooser
1=Chooser
2=Chooser

I can start a new session by logging on to each
chooser being the ctrl+alt+f7, ctrl+alt+f10,
ctrl+alt+f11. The log ons have no problemsHowever
when I go back to one of the other screens all I have
is a blinking cursor. For example
I log onto the ctrl+alt+f7 screen...logs on fine. I
then goto ctrl+alt+f10 and log on. Logson fine. I then
go back to ctrl+alt+f7 and I just have a black screen
with a blinking cursor.

I would like to stay with the ldm setup if possible.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltsp4.2 localdev

2007-11-04 Thread Júlio Cesar Bueno Cotta
try

see this page
http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FAQ

2007/10/16, SZABO Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Another try... (another setup)

 When I plug the USB stick the folder shows up on the desktop, but it is
 empty. (The /etc/fstab is correct on the client.)

 The tail of `strace $client:/tmp/drives/$removable ~/Drives/$removable` is
 can be found attached to the end of this email (all these paths
 concerning $removable exist).

 The point is that it timeouts after writing MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE somewhere...

 Can this be an issue about a misconfigured /etc/hosts?

 TIA,
 Zsolt

 [...]
 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)
 = 0xb7e4c000
 mprotect(0xb7f75000, 20480, PROT_READ)  = 0
 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7e4c6c0,
 limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,
 limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
 munmap(0xb7fa, 53664)   = 0
 set_tid_address(0xb7e4c708) = 4999
 rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0xb7f92450, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
 rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0xb7f923c0, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) =
 0
 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0
 getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=8192*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0
 uname({sys=Linux, node=linserver, ...}) = 0
 brk(0)  = 0x804c000
 brk(0x806d000)  = 0x806d000
 socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 3
 gettimeofday({1192533772, 590439}, NULL) = 0
 open(/etc/resolv.conf, O_RDONLY)  = 4
 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=65, ...}) = 0
 mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
 0) = 0xb7e2c000
 read(4, search mm.bme.hu\nnameserver 152, 131072) = 65
 read(4, , 131072) = 0
 close(4)= 0
 munmap(0xb7e2c000, 131072)  = 0
 connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(9220),
 sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.3.10)}, 16) = 0
 pipe([4, 5])= 0
 clone(child_stack=0,
 flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD,
 child_tidptr=0xb7e4c708) = 5000
 close(5)= 0
 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFIFO|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)
 = 0xb7fad000
 read(4, \0\0\0\4\300\250\3\n\0\0016\0\22MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1\0..., 4096) =
 49
 read(4, , 4096)   = 0
 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
 close(4)= 0
 waitpid(5000, [{WIFEXITED(s)  WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0}], 0) = 5000
 munmap(0xb7fad000, 4096)= 0
 select(1024, NULL, [3], NULL, {30, 0})  = 1 (out [3], left {30, 0})
 write(3, \0\0\0\f\0\0\0\30\0\0\0001, 12) = 12
 select(1024, NULL, [3], NULL, {30, 0})  = 1 (out [3], left {30, 0})
 write(3, \0\0\0\4\300\250\3\n\0\0016\0\22MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1\0..., 49) =
 49
 select(1024, [3], NULL, NULL, {30, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
 close(3)= 0
 exit_group(0)   = ?
 Process 4999 detached

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Firefox/pixmap XRAMPERC causes certain thin-clients not to boot into LDM

2007-11-04 Thread Nadav Kavalerchik
the K12LTSP (fedora core 6) seems a little different. will it work there too
?
(there is no: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm)

On 10/28/07, Nadav Kavalerchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 we had the same issue on the same computers
 and i finally removed the XRAMPERC=80
 to let the terminals boot into X successfully,
 but with Firefox crashes :-(
 (potentially)


 On 10/25/07, Jim Kronebusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:23:10 -0700, Jordan Erickson wrote
   Hello,
  
   (Ubuntu Feisty 64 w/i386 chroot)
  
   I've followed the saga that is Firefox taking too much memory when
   loading graphically intensive pages (with workaround posted at
   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ResolveRamIssues ), and
   implemented the workaround a couple of weeks ago.
 
  I read the link you referenced.  I don't think the instructions are 100%
 correct.  The
  original instructions I received from Scott B did not have me copy ldm
 to the screen.d
  location.  The files already existed.  I'll post the original
 instructions below, then
  I'll post the contents of my $CHROOT/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm under
 that so you can
  rebuild yours.  I wonder if the extra stuff in that ldm script is whats
 causing your
  trouble.
 
  # Original Instructions #
 
  First add the following to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm
 above the
  last line in the file that currently reads exec ldm vt$ttynum
 :$displaynum:
 
  XRAMPERC=${XRAMPERC:-100}
 
  if [ ${XRAMPERC} -lt 100 ]; then
XMEM=0
while read TYPE VALUE UNITS; do
  case ${TYPE} in
MemFree:|SwapFree:)
XMEM=$((${XMEM} + ${VALUE}))
;;
  esac
done  /proc/meminfo
XMEM=$((${XMEM} * ${XRAMPERC} / 100))
 
ulimit -v ${XMEM}
  fi
 
  Save the file and then modify /opt/i386/ltsp/etc/lts.conf and add the
 following
  to your
  [Default] section:
 
  # Set maximum percentage of RAM consumed by X
  XRAMPERC=80
 
  # End original instructions ###
 
  ## Contents of original /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm
 #
 
  #!/bin/sh
  # Depend on the ldm package
  #
  # Copyright 2005, Canonical Ltd.
  #
  # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
 it under
  # the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
 Software
  # Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version.
  #
  # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
 WITHOUT ANY
  # WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or
 FITNESS FOR A
  # PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more
 details.
  #
  # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License with
 your
  # Debian GNU system, in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL.  If not, write
 to the
  # Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston,
 MA
  # 02111-1307, USA.
 
 
  . /usr/lib/ltsp/ltsp_config
 
  # XXX
  PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/X11
 
  tty=$(tty)
  case $tty in
/dev/tty*) # with udev (2.6 kernel)
ttynum=${tty#/dev/tty}
;;
/dev/vc/*) # with devfs (2.4 kernel)
ttynum=${tty#/dev/vc/}
;;
  esac
  displaynum=$(($ttynum - 1))
 
  exec ldm vt$ttynum :$displaynum
 
  ### End contents of original
 /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm ##
 
  If these changes work please post back and I'll update the wiki.
 
  Jim
 
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[Ltsp-discuss] Celeron M 1.46GHz vs. Core Duo Processor 1.60GHz

2007-11-04 Thread nixmin
Celeron M 1.46GHz vs. Core Duo Processor 1.60GHz

I am trying to determine if there is a measurable difference in performance
to be expected between using a Celeron M 1.46GHz vs. Core Duo 1.60GHz for a
LTSP server.

Other specs will be:

1 MB L2 Cache / 533Mhz FSB / 1 GB Ram / 60 GB 7200RPM Sata Drive / Multiple
LAN interfaces

The machine will serve a total of 4 PXE boot clients (maximum of 6).

I intend to use the Xubuntu LTSP installation (preferred for its lightweight
and efficiency).  The applications my users will use will be:

- Firefox web browser (built into the distribution)
- Adobe Flash plug in added to browser
- GAIM IM client
- Terminal (majority of work applications are terminal based)
- A PDF reader (to be determined)
- OpenOffice on an extremely limited basis (maybe 1 user, once a month if
that often)
- VNC on the server (to access the remote clients for
support/troubleshooting)

File and printing services, as well as application services are handled by
other machines on the network.

I am using a ultra compact form factor server platform (space constraints)
so not alot of options on processors, the two I noted are my options.
Anyone with any experience with a similar configuration and usage scenario.

TIA!

-nixmin

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[Ltsp-discuss] 3d Accelration LTSP

2007-11-04 Thread MATTHEW STAVERT
HI there, I'm up here in Canada, and starting to play with LTSP within our 
school division.  I'm not new to linux, but I am new to LTSP, and have a 
question.  I went to a presentation about a school division in Kamloops BC, and 
they had 3d acceleration on their Diskless terminals, because they bought a 
Motherboard with the Nvidia chipset built in.  Does 3d acceleration come in the 
default kernal?  Is this pretty easy to implement.  They had beryl running on 
their terminals, it was awesome.  Please lead me in the direction I have to go 
to implement this under LTSP. (PS I don;'t mind hacking away, so if it's a but 
difficult, thats okay, I'll get it eventually :)

Thanks in Advance!

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ubuntu Server or Desktop?

2007-11-04 Thread Kari Matthews
I just upgraded my server at school.  I loaded Ubuntu 7.10 server and then
did apt-get install unbuntu-desktop.  That way, I got LAMP, SSH, prostres
all installed right off the bat but I still get the graphical interface.

~kari

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  so we will likely use that.
 
  I am sorry if I missed this in the docs I looked at, but I can't tell
  if we use Ubuntu Server edition or Ubuntu Desktop edition.  Can
  someone clarify?
 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp-discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 31

2007-11-04 Thread Chris Anderson
 In LTSP, each client is seen by my content
 filter and firewall as all coming from the same address
  - the LAN address of the LTSP server.
 ...
 Is a feature like this available or in the works for LTSP.

can't you use local apps to give each machine a unique IP?

if you get creative with scripting, can't you just run the browser locally
on the terminal and then run everything else from the terminal server?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Local devices not working

2007-11-04 Thread Job D R Borges
Hi,

If you are making a new install, its very simple!
Just install edubuntu!
And I also recommend  you to use Edubuntu DVD, that has all packages ans
will speed up the installation.
But, because a small bug in install script you must to run lts-update-keys.

Yes, LocalDev will work very well, but, only Gnome which is slow and memory
hungry), and ltsp5.0 in overrall is still slower than LTSP 4.2,
lts.confdon't work well, even if you change back to use nfs,
xorg.conf build does't work well too.

I really recommend to use old lts 4.2 with KDE.

Job

job at nupelia uem br

On 10/30/07, SZABO Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Alexandre Magaz Graça wrote:

  Step 3: Did the ltsp udev rules fire?
 
  Yes, but I suppose the path to the fstab should be updated on the wiki.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /var/run/ltspfs_fstab
  /dev/fd0 /var/run/drives/floppy0 auto defaults 0 0
  /dev/sdb1 /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sdb1 vfat defaults 0 0
 
  Step 4: Can you manually issue a mount command?
 
  I didn't found /tmp/.ltspfs_socket file.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -a /tmp/
  .  ..  ldm  .X11-unix  .X6-lock

 Check ${thin_client_chroot}/lib/udev/add_fstab_entry:
 the socket is maybe  /var/run/ldm_socket_*...

 And check if the correct ltspfs package is installed on the server and
 ldm, ltspfsd on the client's chroot...

 I had similar problem at the begining of this month (try google: Couldn't
 read LTSPFS_TOKEN atom), and I found that the cause of this error is
 incompatible versions on the server and client side (maybe the protocoll
 of the communication has changed a bit?), AFAIR...

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Client IP Addresses

2007-11-04 Thread Jaysen O'Dell


On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:37 PM, jam wrote:



On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 04:42 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

clip
No, it's not possible, as all the traffic is, indeed, coming from one
box:
the ltsp server itself.
/clip

Well, It's obviously possible because Citrix found a way to do it.
How
difficult it may be would be another question.  They obviously  
found a

way
to associate each session with an IP address from a pool.  Here's a
troubleshooting doc that may give some insight into the process:
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX111898searchID=-1


Can anybody confirm if they are Thin or Fat clients?

ie This Display has an IP of its own as opposed to having the  
server IP


Curious - James


Well, I took a few minutes to actually read the doc this time and a  
CTL-c CTL-v later 


Client IP Address Feature:
Note: When using the Client IP Address feature, the session still  
uses the server IP or the Virtual IP address for communication on the  
network.
If an application fails because it requires a unique address strictly  
for identification or licensing purposes, and the application does  
not require a virtual address for communication, you can use the  
Client IP Address feature. This feature hooks only calls that return  
a host IP address, such as gethostbyname(). Only use this feature  
with applications that send the value in this type of call to the  
server application for identification or licensing.


So thin it is. A little further up from this section they note that  
there is use of multiple loopback addresses. So it seems to me that  
there is some level of local VM/NAT work happening here. This is  
supported by the following statement from further down in the doc...


Note: The Virtual IP address feature functions only with applications  
that load the user32.dll system dynamic library.


Last thing that really stood out is

Common Misconception: Virtual IP addresses are assigned on a per- 
session basis and not only to applications that have been added to  
the monitoring list in the Presentation Server Console. Adding a  
process to the Virtual IP Processes list in the Presentation Server  
Console simply allows that application to communicate on the network  
using the Virtual IP address.


It seems to me that they have tapped the TCP stack and do a lookup  
based on the logged in user. From there they rewrite the outgoing  
packets to use the assigned virt. Basically a little VM network  
interface that is inserted in the user space. I guess this is what  
you can do if you don't care too much about security ;-)


Of course this is rampant speculation. But it sure seems like a good  
way to accomplish the goal to me. I will see if I can get my hands on  
a system in the next couple of days and get a real answer.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
  PRINTING DETAILS
  I get a network host is busy message from CUPS.

 When you telnet to the host, can you connect?


No.

i.e.

 telnet ip address of terminal 9100

 Do you get connected?


No.

If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?

 Scott


I tried

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0

Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Localapps spec. Comments always appreciated.

2007-11-04 Thread Erwin Groeneveld

Hi Jim,


Thanks, but somehow the link doesn't work and I'm very curious... Can
you check the link again?


Erwin Groeneveld.



Jim Kronebusch wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:36:32 -0500, Scott Balneaves wrote
   
 Well, the big news coming out of this UDS/BTS is that we have a (possible)
 way to EASILY implements localapps on thin client workstations.

 Here's the spec:

 https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ltsp/+spec/ltsp-localapps

 Follow the read the full spec link to see the gory details.

 In order to make it easy for me, rather than a huge number of response
 emails, if you could add any comments to the wiki directly, it would be
 helpful.  We'll work on the spec this week.  Note that I've already
 done some proof of concept code, which appears to work:

 bzr get http://swan.he.net/~sbalneav/bzr/xrexecd

 Yes, this hopefully means you'll be able to launch Firefox/Skype/etc on the
 terminal.

 Cheers,
 Scott
 

 Very cool.  I'm sure you'll keep us posted on development.  Let me know if I 
 can help in
 testing (of course explaining to me how to test may be more work for you than 
 its worth :-).

 Jim

   
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Has anyone actually used the terminals to print with Feisty or Gutsy. It
seems most people use stand alone network printers.
There was a change in printing system in LTSP 5 to jet pipe. I suspect there
is a bug.

Can anyone confirm or deny this suspicion?

Krsnendu dasa

On 31/10/2007, Krsnendu dasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
   PRINTING DETAILS
   I get a network host is busy message from CUPS.
 
  When you telnet to the host, can you connect?


 No.

 i.e.
 
  telnet ip address of terminal 9100
 
  Do you get connected?


 No.

 If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?
 
  Scott
 
 
 I tried

 [ws043]
  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
 #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
 PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
 PRINTER_0_TYPE = U

 [ws043]
  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
 #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
 PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
 PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0

 [ws043]
  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
 #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
 PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
 PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0

 Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Fixed: Notice the unnecessary spaces after the = signs?
Doh!!!

On 01/11/2007, Krsnendu dasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone actually used the terminals to print with Feisty or Gutsy. It
 seems most people use stand alone network printers.
 There was a change in printing system in LTSP 5 to jet pipe. I suspect
 there is a bug.

 Can anyone confirm or deny this suspicion?

 Krsnendu dasa

 On 31/10/2007, Krsnendu dasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
PRINTING DETAILS
I get a network host is busy message from CUPS.
  
   When you telnet to the host, can you connect?
 
 
  No.
 
  i.e.
  
   telnet ip address of terminal 9100
  
   Do you get connected?
 
 
  No.
 
  If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?
  
   Scott
  
  
  I tried
 
  [ws043]
   #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
  #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
  PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
  PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
 
  [ws043]
   #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
  #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
  PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
  PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
 
  [ws043]
   #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
  #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
  PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
  PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0
 
  Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6
 
 

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[Ltsp-discuss] (no subject)

2007-11-04 Thread Petri Ala-Louvesniemi

Hello everyone!



I have been trying to setup an edubuntu thin client environment in the school 
I'm working. at the moment 



The computer I'm using as a server is: Dell Poweredge 2500, it has two
1 Gigahertz processors, about 2 Gigabits of memory and two network
cards. The cards are: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 Ethernet pro 100 and
3Com 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone].

I'm using Intel's card to connect to internet and 3Com to share ip's for thin 
clients through a router.



The thin client
I'm using to test the environment has: 2,5 Gigahertz AMD processor and
1,024 memory. It has ASUS A8N SLI motherboard with integrated NIC, NIC is 
NVidias
nForce Networking controller. 



I've installed Edubuntu 7.10 on the server and modified the dhcpd.conf file.

Then I run the thin client and get this message at boot:



  [17179570.788000] ACPI; Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x1

  ipconfig; eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device

  ipconfig: no devices to configure

  /init: .: 1: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf

  [17179571.112000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! 



I'm still quite an amateur with Ubuntu, I've worked with it only for a
couple of months so please, make your explanation as simple as
possible. Thanks!
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[Ltsp-discuss] Failed to mount root file system from Diskless Computer

2007-11-04 Thread Binay Sinha
I'm using FC5 and LTSP 4.1 is installed in my server. When i tried to boot
the workstation(192.168.1.101/ws101) i got the message RPC failed to pass
remote IP address Error No = Permission denied. My /etc/export file has a
valid entry. the command # tail -f /var/log/messages says dhcp discover Mac
Address , dhcpoffer 192.168.1.101, dhcpack 192.168.1.101. I have checked NFS
is running in my server. There is an entry in my /etc/host 192.168.1.101
ws101.Priyankaws101. Where name of my server is Priyanka and domainname
of my server is also Priyanka. What is going wrong i can'nt understand.
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[Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp 5 e Ubuntu 7.10

2007-11-04 Thread Elton Simões Baptista
Caríssimos Senhores,

Estou desde segunda-feira instalando e reinstalando o Ubuntu 7.10 e o
7.04para colocar em produção um novo servidor de
LTSP (já tenho rodando o Ltsp 4.22 em um fedora core 3).

Instalei o Ubuntu (da mesma forma com as duas versões) a partir de um cd
SERVER com as opções básicas.

Após instalado rodei o apt-get instalando gnome, gdm, ltsp-server-standalone
e openssh-server.

Configurei o /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf para minha rede (trocando 192.168* por
10.0* e os ip´s de gateway e dns)

Alterei o /etc/gdm/gdm.conf para permitir XDMCP

Rodei o ltsp-build-client, que foi ate o final e disse ter rodado com
sucesso.

Tento ligar um thinclient com PXE, ele boota normalmente e para na hora de
levantar o ambiente gráfico (fica com a tela toda preta)

Apenas para testar, tentei utilizar algum cliente XDMCP para me conectar ao
ambiente gráfico remotamente e não obtive sucesso com o gnome, apenas com o
kde ou xfce 4.


Alguem pode me dar alguma dica?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 02/11/2007, Jim Kronebusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:44 -0400 (EDT), Jason Maas wrote
  Hi Robert,
 
  On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
 
   Out of curiosity can we have a brief technical overview of how this is
   accomplished?
 
  I have nothing to do with the design, but here is what you're looking
 for:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
 
  I found that by starting here:
 
 https://launchpad.net/ltsp
 
  Jason

 Ultimately what I'd like to do, is run my server 100% 64-bit.  Then any
 32-bit only apps
 load in the client, such as Java or Flash etc. given that the clients are
 32-bit.  I'd
 also like to offload multimedia apps and Firefox locally.  Also I assume
 that if an app
 such as Firefox runs locally, then my content filter would see the clients
 IP address
 and not the servers which would give me more ability in logging and user
 control.

 I'm excited.  I hope this is to a point where we can play by Christmas
 break.


What would be the minimum specs for running local apps?

I am particularly thinking of a voip application like ekiga or twinkle.
Another candidate for local apps is Rhythmbox or Amarok.

We have 300MHz Celerons and P2s with 64MB RAm (can upgrade to 128MB). Would
this be enough?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On 11/1/07, Krsnendu dasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have 300MHz Celerons and P2s with 64MB RAm (can upgrade to 128MB). Would
 this be enough?

300Mhz Celerons are famous. If those are slot 1 Celerons (Mendocino
core) they can easily be overclocked to 500Mhz.
http://www.tomshardware.com/1998/05/14/how_to_get_all_66_mhz_slot_1_cpus_running_100_mhz/

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[Ltsp-discuss] Unable to remote boot powerpc (Was: Old iMac clients and hand-holding)

2007-11-04 Thread Bill Moseley
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:08:33AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
  
  5) Finally, if I have mixed clients (powerPC and i386) will I need to
  tie MAC addresses to entries in dhcpd to specify the root-path?
 
 yes...here's a snippet from my dhcpd.conf

Hi Craig,

Could you explain some of the options below in your dhcpd.conf?  One
thing that I'm curious about is why the filename is
/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0 for the i386 clients but just yaboot for the
mac clients (i.e. not a full path).

I still have not given up on the Mac clients yet, and was (finally!)
able to get a G4 iBook to boot from the Xubuntu powerpc Live CD and
installed the ltsp powerpc client on the server.

Now I can't get the Macs to boot over the network.

I updated my dhcpd.conf to offer a different root-path and filename
for the powerpc macs.

Here's my dhcpd.conf file:

authoritative;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250;
option domain-name example.com;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers 192.168.0.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;

option root-path /opt/ltsp/i386;
if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = PXEClient {
filename /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0;
} else {
filename /ltsp/i386/nbi.img;
}
}

group {
option root-path /opt/ltsp/powerpc;
filename /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot;

# Define powerpc machines by their MAC address.

host ibook {
hardware ethernet 00:14:51:32:BA:44;
fixed-address 192.168.0.15;
}

host mac1 {
hardware ethernet 00:30:65:f3:50:58;
}
}

Indeed, the ibook does get assigned 192.168.0.15.  I boot it holding
down N and I get the flashing network boot icon (the globe) on the
iBook display.

Now, when I boot an i386 client I see this in the logs:

Nov  3 18:01:25 ltsps0 nbdrootd[6170]: connect from 192.168.0.250 
(192.168.0.250)
Nov  3 18:01:25 ltsps0 nbd_server[6171]: connect from 192.168.0.250, assigned 
file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
Nov  3 18:01:25 ltsps0 nbd_server[6171]: Size of exported file/device is 
143855616
Nov  3 18:01:31 ltsps0 ldminfod[6173]: connect from 192.168.0.250 
(192.168.0.250)


But when booting the iBook I only see the IP get assigned by DHCP but
nothing from nbdrootd that might indicate the image is being sent.

Is the iBook not requesting the network boot?  Or is my dhcpd.conf
file incorrect?

Thanks,



 
 # PXE-Install
 group linux-clients {
 ddns-updates on;
 next-server 192.168.3.11;
 option root-path 192.168.3.7:/opt/ltsp/i386;
 filename /lts/pxe/pxelinux.0;
 # install client
 host install1 {
 #   option option-128  e4:45:74:68:00:00;
 #   option option-129  MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048;
 hardware ethernet 00:02:55:8B:06:C9;
 fixed-address 192.168.3.49;
 option host-name install1;
 ddns-hostname install1;
 }
 }
 group mac-clients {
 ddns-updates on;
 next-server 192.168.3.11;
 option root-path 192.168.3.11:/opt/ltsp/ppc;
 filename yaboot;
 # install client
 host mac-linux-1 {
 #   server-name mac-linux-1;
 option vendor-class-identifier AAPLBSDPC;
 option vendor-encapsulated-options
 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82:
 05: # length
 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname
 option option-128  e4:45:74:68:00:00;
 option option-129  NIC=ne IO=0x300;
 #   option option-129
 NFSOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048;
 
 hardware ethernet 00:03:93:7f:5d:1a;
 fixed-address 192.168.3.47;
 option host-name mac-linux-1;
 ddns-hostname mac-linux-1;
 }
 }

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Charles Marcus
 I just stopped dancing and can now type  :-) 
 
 Very cool, I can't wait to see how this works.

I agree, this is awesome news... :)

Just to confirm - will this be something that can be specified per 
client? In other words, a mixed environment, where you can designate 
certain workstations to run LocalApps, and others NOT to?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] 3d Accelration LTSP

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen
MATTHEW STAVERT kirjoitti:
 Thanks in Advance!

http://davelargo.blogspot.com/2006/12/thin-clients-and-remote-3d.html
http://davelargo.blogspot.com/2007/10/desktop-hexagon-cubed.html

I really do not know how much hacking that needs...

I do not have any thin or fat client with NVidia...

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Jim McQuillan


Krsnendu dasa wrote:
 
 
 On 02/11/2007, *Jim Kronebusch* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:44 -0400 (EDT), Jason Maas wrote
   Hi Robert,
  
   On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
  
Out of curiosity can we have a brief technical overview of how
 this is
accomplished?
  
   I have nothing to do with the design, but here is what you're
 looking for:
  
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
  
   I found that by starting here:
  
  https://launchpad.net/ltsp
  
   Jason
 
 Ultimately what I'd like to do, is run my server 100% 64-bit.  Then
 any 32-bit only apps
 load in the client, such as Java or Flash etc. given that the
 clients are 32-bit.  I'd
 also like to offload multimedia apps and Firefox locally.  Also I
 assume that if an app
 such as Firefox runs locally, then my content filter would see the
 clients IP address
 and not the servers which would give me more ability in logging and
 user control.
 
 I'm excited.  I hope this is to a point where we can play by
 Christmas break.
 
 
 What would be the minimum specs for running local apps?

That completely depends on what app you want to run. Firefox likes lots 
of memory.  So does OpenOffice.  I'd suspect that xclock would require 
very little ram, although it's a bit less useful :)


 
 I am particularly thinking of a voip application like ekiga or twinkle.
 Another candidate for local apps is Rhythmbox or Amarok.

Well, one thing that is still a sticky point for local apps is Gnome 
apps that need to access/modify gconf.  You'll have BIG BIG problems if 
you have both a client app and server apps both trying to update gconf. 
  gconf database corruption is highly likely.

I think ekiga will have a problem but twinkle should be ok.

I think that running firefox + all the things it needs, like flash 
player and java vm is pretty cool, but the really cool thing will be 
voip apps.  this will make a LTSP based call center MUCH MUCH easier.

 
 We have 300MHz Celerons and P2s with 64MB RAm (can upgrade to 128MB). 
 Would this be enough?

64mb is pretty low.  even 128 is on the low side.  I'd enable network 
swap with anything less than 256mb.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Jim McQuillan kirjoitti:

 the really cool thing will be voip apps. this will make a LTSP based call 
 center MUCH MUCH easier.

There is one old article about that:

Building a Call Center with LTSP and Soft Phones

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165

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[Ltsp-discuss] Gusty LTSP Screen Viewer and SSH

2007-11-04 Thread ugh ugher
I upgraded to using Gusty with LTSP. The multiple
screen sessions has been solved in this release
however I can no longer use the screen viewer in the
Thin Client Manager. I installed x11vnc on the thin
client by doing the following

sudo mount --bind /dev /opt/ltsp/i386/dev
sudo mount -t proc none /opt/ltsp/i386/proc
# Make sure that resolv will work iin chroot
sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/

Now chroot the /opt/ltsp/i386
sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
sudo apt-get install x11vnc

I also installed ssh the same way. On Feisty all this
worked. What I have noticed is that on feisty If I
were to vnc to the machine I would do 
vncviewer IPAddress:0 (the ipaddress would be the ip
from the dhcp server for the thin client)
And all would be good. Same idea with ssh for example
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] (once again the IP is from the
DHCP server)

Now on Gusty I have found it wants to use the LTSP
servers IP for everything. How can I get this to use
the ip supplied from the dhcp server?
For example say the server has an ip of 192.168.1.1
and the client has 192.168.1.5
On feisty I would do vncviewer 192.168.1.5:0 and vnc
would work. Same with ssh. Example ssh
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On gusty to use vncviewer I can only do vncviewer
192.168.1.1:1 (the server IP)
If I do vncviewer 192.168.1.5:0 I get unable to
connect to host connection refused (111)

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Gusty LTSP Screen Viewer and SSH

2007-11-04 Thread Steve Cayford
ugh ugher wrote:
 [...]
 If I do vncviewer 192.168.1.5:0 I get unable to
 connect to host connection refused (111)
 
 Help??

It's not blocked by tcpwrappers is it? (hosts.allow, hosts.deny) Or is
x11vnc being installed in a more secure mode by default?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Gusty LTSP Screen Viewer and SSH

2007-11-04 Thread ugh ugher
ugh ugher wrote:
 [...]
 If I do vncviewer 192.168.1.5:0 I get unable to
 connect to host connection refused (111)

 Help??

It's not blocked by tcpwrappers is it? (hosts.allow,
hosts.deny) Or is
x11vnc being installed in a more secure mode by
default?

I dont see anything in the hosts.allow, or hosts.deny.

I dont think its being installed in a more secure
wayi think.
I am totally lost on this.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] 3d Accelration LTSP

2007-11-04 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On 10/27/07, MATTHEW STAVERT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI there, I'm up here in Canada, and starting to play with LTSP within our
 school division.  I'm not new to linux, but I am new to LTSP, and have a
 question.  I went to a presentation about a school division in Kamloops BC,
 and they had 3d acceleration on their Diskless terminals, because they

Kamloops does not use a standard LTSP setup. They run 100% local apps.
I think it's easier in that situation to get Compiz Fusion (Beryl)
working at full speed. Now that local apps is becoming a standard
feature of LTSP (Hurray!!) it should become easier.

-- 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Celeron M 1.46GHz vs. Core Duo Processor 1.60GHz

2007-11-04 Thread Jason Maas
Hi Nixmin,

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, nixmin wrote:

 I am trying to determine if there is a measurable difference in performance
 to be expected between using a Celeron M 1.46GHz vs. Core Duo 1.60GHz for a
 LTSP server.

Assuming the Celeron is a single core CPU (I can't keep track of Intel 
these days) I would think the Core Duo would be much more useful due to 
having two cores.  In an LTSP environment you're much more likely to have 
a bunch of programs being actively used at the same time than you are on a 
standalone workstation that a single person is using.  So you'll really 
see a noticeable benefit from multiple CPUs.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Latest K12LTSP

2007-11-04 Thread Donny Christiaan
Peter Scheie wrote:
 There is a beta for version 7 available at 
 ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/7.0.0-32bit/iso/
 
 Peter

I hope the final release launch soon :)

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] 3d Accelration LTSP

2007-11-04 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Local apps have nothing to do w/ the 3d hw acceleration.
The only things you need are:
- DRI capable videocard (Nvidia or better Intel)
- AIGLX capable X server (7.0 or newer- LTSP 5.0 is necessary)
Ondrej

Robert Arkiletian wrote:
 On 10/27/07, MATTHEW STAVERT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 HI there, I'm up here in Canada, and starting to play with LTSP within our
 school division.  I'm not new to linux, but I am new to LTSP, and have a
 question.  I went to a presentation about a school division in Kamloops BC,
 and they had 3d acceleration on their Diskless terminals, because they
 

 Kamloops does not use a standard LTSP setup. They run 100% local apps.
 I think it's easier in that situation to get Compiz Fusion (Beryl)
 working at full speed. Now that local apps is becoming a standard
 feature of LTSP (Hurray!!) it should become easier.

   


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