Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp-5 manual ltspfsmount

2007-05-24 Thread Anthony M Simonelli
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 11:30 +0500, Faraz Khan wrote:

> > Faraz, You said you're using XDMCP with LTSP 5.  Did you do this by
> > using SCREEN_07 = startx in your lts.conf file?  If not, how did you do
> > it?  Also, by using XDMCP, do you by-pass going through ssh?  What do
> > you do for shutting down the thin clients short of clicking off a power
> > strip, and how did you restrict users to just logout and lock screen in
> > GNOME?
> > 
> 
> Sure you cant power off the thin clients - but is that REALLY a big
> deal? thats just a convenience feature (yeah they can hold the thin
> clients power button for 10 seconds :) )
> 
> And yes, setting screen07 = startx does not start ldm and hence uses
> XDMCP to present a remote login screen - bypassing ssh. 


How do I get the thin clients to use my XFS server running on the same
server?  I have USE_XFS=True in my lts.conf file but it doesn't work for
clients using SCREEN_07=startx and connect using XDMCP only LDM clients.
It seems to be set in the LDM script.  Is there any way to get it to
work for clients using XDMCP to connect.  Is there a way to modify the
client's xorg.conf file some other way?  If I modify the xorg.conf file
on the server and rebuild the chroot environment using ltsp-build-client
(a bit of a reach)?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] PXE booting a Relisys RWT100CE

2007-05-24 Thread Noel Murphy
My apologies, I didn't realise that I'd sent my original message (below)
in html format.

-Original Message-
From: Noel Murphy 
Sent: 21 May 2007 15:45
To: 'ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: PXE booting a Relisys RWT100CE


Hi,

I trying to pxe boot a Relisys RWT100ce using LTSP 4.2 on SLES 10.2
running as a virtual machine.  I can get the device to boot and if
SCREEN01 is set to shell then it boots up to the command prompt and
works fine, but when I run startx the screen goes blank and doesn't come
back.  If I create a second mini virtual box and pxe boot that of the
server it works so ltsp is working to an extent.  Any ideas where I
should look next, I think the client has an SIS18(?) video card.

I'm fairly new to all of this and would appreciate any help offered,

Regards


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 Login manager question

2007-05-24 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 07:01:39AM -0400, Alfred Nutile wrote:
> Seem LTSP5 is pretty much stuck on using LDM.

Well, LDM's going to allow us to do some fancy things that we can't
otherwise do.  Read on, McDuff...

> I like using KDM because it has more features like per hostname login list
> and auto login.
> The ability to show a list.
> Lock out users per station so someone does not login in on two machines as
> gueststationone.
> Etc etc...

These were all topics for discussion at the recent developers summit.
Here's what we're working on...

1) The ability to change greeters.
   LDM runs locally, on the terminal.  There's two parts to LDM: LDM
   itself, which will manage establishing the connection, and the
   greeter, which gives you the fancy login screen.  Last night, I was
   working on some code in LDM to handle subbing in a different greeter.
   Gadi came up with some patches the other day to hand a userid and
   password in from the lts.conf file.  I haven't had a chance to
   discuss it with him, Jim, Ollie, or Vagrant last night, but what I
   came up with was passing, on the command line to the greeter the IP
   address and MAC address of the station your on.  Most greeters would
   ignore these, and simply ask the user for a username and password,
   but for autologon, a simple script of the form:

   #!/bin/sh
   IP=${1}
   MAC=${2}

   if [ ${MAC} = "00:FE:ED:C0:FF:EE" ]; then
  # return USER1 PASS1
   elif [ ${MAC} "11:22:DE:AD:BE:EF" ]; then
  # return USER2 PASS2
   ...

   Could handle autologins nicely, under whatever scheme the user
   wanted.  Plus, greeters built using either GTK or Qt libs could
   provide the look-and-feel that the user wants right out of the box,
   or easily allow a user to develop their own custom greeter.
2) Combining both encrypted and unencrypted X support.  After coming up
   with a Large And Baroque plan to integrate the two for localdevs,
   Gadi, again, came up with a simple idea that will work for both.  So
   localdevices will work under LDM regardless wether you're encrypting
   the X traffic or not.
3) Other cool stuff, like, single logins, load balancing, etc.

So, in short, in a few months, the current shortcomings of LDM will be
smoothed away.

Cheers,

Scott

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] (no subject)

2007-05-24 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 02:39:19PM +1000, noodlepringle wrote:
> hi all
> 
> just took ltsp5 for a test run on a machine i have here 
> 
> loving the installer and doing things the debian way
> 
> but something i cant seem to find info about is - how do i install a
> powerpc root environment? the documentation seems a little thin on the
> ground relating to this - as i want to use the ltsp installer included
> with etch to do it - all i am told is :

Since building the chroot executes binary files within the chroot
(things like mount, etc), building a PPC chroot on an i386 machine won't
work.

Simple short term solution is: build the chroot on the target arch (i.e.
build a PPC chroot on a PPC machine), then you can just copy over the
PPC chroot to the differently arch'ed server.

Complicated long term solution: use something like qemu to build the
chroot.  No, no one's done any work on this.  :)

Scott

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] (no subject)

2007-05-24 Thread noodlepringle
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 08:30 -0500, Scott Balneaves wrote:
snip
> Since building the chroot executes binary files within the chroot
> (things like mount, etc), building a PPC chroot on an i386 machine won't
> work.
> 
> Simple short term solution is: build the chroot on the target arch (i.e.
> build a PPC chroot on a PPC machine), then you can just copy over the
> PPC chroot to the differently arch'ed server.
> 
snip
> 
> Scott
> 
ok so i dug up the bondi blue imac and gave it the kiss of life for this
job - more ram and a fresh install of debian etch

but when i run the ltsp-build-client command it mostly does the work but
then fails with:

Errors were encountered while processing:
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-input-all

further up i see that theres an error saying:

xserver-xorg postinst warning: failed to infer keyboard layout from
layout/lang
'10 debian-installer/keymap doesn't exist--en_AU'

is there something wrong with the system keymap that wont let this
build? (australian language selected in initial setup) or is there
something i can place inside the chroot to make this happy?

perhaps someone else has recently built the client environment on a ppc
with debian etch recently?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp-5 manual ltspfsmount

2007-05-24 Thread Anthony M Simonelli
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:24 -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 11:30 +0500, Faraz Khan wrote: 
> > > Faraz, You said you're using XDMCP with LTSP 5.  Did you do this by
> > > using SCREEN_07 = startx in your lts.conf file?  If not, how did you do
> > > it?  Also, by using XDMCP, do you by-pass going through ssh?  What do
> > > you do for shutting down the thin clients short of clicking off a power
> > > strip, and how did you restrict users to just logout and lock screen in
> > > GNOME?
> > > 
> > 
> > Sure you cant power off the thin clients - but is that REALLY a big
> > deal? thats just a convenience feature (yeah they can hold the thin
> > clients power button for 10 seconds :) )
> > 
> > And yes, setting screen07 = startx does not start ldm and hence uses
> > XDMCP to present a remote login screen - bypassing ssh. 
> 
> How do I get the thin clients to use my XFS server running on the same
> server?  I have USE_XFS=True in my lts.conf file but it doesn't work
> for clients using SCREEN_07=startx and connect using XDMCP only LDM
> clients.  It seems to be set in the LDM script.  Is there any way to
> get it to work for clients using XDMCP to connect.  Is there a way to
> modify the client's xorg.conf file some other way?  If I modify the
> xorg.conf file on the server and rebuild the chroot environment using
> ltsp-build-client (a bit of a reach)? 

In order to use XFS with clients that connect using XDMCP, I set
SCREEN_02=shell, switched to the shell, and copied the auto-generated
settings from the xorg.conf file.  Then I created a separate xorg.conf
file in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/ with settings to use the font server
(FontPath "tcp/192.168.0.10:7100") and used the XF86CONFIG_FILE option
in the lts.conf file use this xorg.conf file.  Once the client booted
and X started, it was using the font server.


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