Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 808.356.2913 wrote: this might not sound nice but use 'vi' not 'nano' you will never feel any editor woes again Sean http://www.kokuatraffic.com You're right, it doesn't sound nice. It sounds elitist and stupid. -Eric Hattemer ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
You dispute recomending people use vi which is a superior editor? Almost all systems have vi installed and in the default path.. not the case for nano. What is more elitist is not encouraging people to use the proper tools! Sean On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:29 pm, Eric Hattemer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 808.356.2913 wrote: this might not sound nice but use 'vi' not 'nano' you will never feel any editor woes again Sean http://www.kokuatraffic.com You're right, it doesn't sound nice. It sounds elitist and stupid. -Eric Hattemer ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
On Wednesday,2007-10-17 21:44:36 Sean Fairchild wrote: You dispute recomending people use vi which is a superior editor? Almost all systems have vi installed and in the default path.. not the case for nano. What is more elitist is not encouraging people to use the proper tools! Different strokes for different folks. That's the true freedom of free software... pick any of the many free editors, or write your own. So, do we really need another holy war? 'cause if so, you folks are barking up the wrong tree... the REAL holy war is vi vs emacs. -- Copyright 2007 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserve without prejudice. All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. http://www.kahealani.com/ It's *all* just choice. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
Angela Kahealani wrote: the REAL holy war is vi vs emacs. I've always heard about this one. Is there a story behind it other than a pointless argument over superlatives? The real question of this thread is did either Peter's or Antonio's suggestions work? They included the inquisitor when they responded. I wonder if he let either of you know if your response worked? --scott ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
On Wednesday,2007-10-17 22:37:32 R. Scott Belford wrote: I've always heard about this one. Is there a story behind it other than a pointless argument over superlatives? my point exactly... these things are not resolvable, because different people / circumstances yield different optimizations. -- Copyright 2007 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserve without prejudice. All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. http://www.kahealani.com/ It's *all* just choice. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
ah sorry I think I miss something =) Angela Kahealani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday,2007-10-17 22:37:32 R. Scott Belford wrote: I've always heard about this one. Is there a story behind it other than a pointless argument over superlatives? my point exactly... these things are not resolvable, because different people / circumstances yield different optimizations. -- Copyright 2007 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserve without prejudice. All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. http://www.kahealani.com/ It's *all* just choice. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
[LUAU] POSTFIX......
Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
On 10/16/07, Peter Besenbruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: goku ball z wrote: setenv EDITOR/usr/local/bin/./nano ( which didn't work ) then I tried this also setenv EDITOR/usr/local/bin/nano (which also didn't work) Setting the EDITOR only helps when you use a program that calls an editor such as crontab, mutt and pine. What about putting a link in /usr/bin to your Nano executable? I don't run Suse, but that's what Debian does. It's odd that they would put Nano in /usr/local/bin, as that usually isn't in the path. Try man ln. Frankly, I find it easier to do links with Midnight Commander, sometimes called mc. It is a BSD thing to install packages under /usr/local, but since the problem is on SuSE, I suspect in this case it was a local install from the source package (sh configure make sudo make install). NetOpsCenter wrote: I run FreeBSD here in Hawaii, but I added the LUAU list to this email. Plenty local Linux users on it could maybe help you. Whatever works. The solution is the same in both: fix the PATH. For tcsh, the OP will want to add something like the following to your .tcshrc file: set PATH = ($PATH /usr/local/bin) Using a symlink will work too, but using a custom PATH will continue to work for other local package installations. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] POSTFIX......
goku ball z wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... thanks It would probably be a little easier to help if you could tell us exactly what you are trying to accomplish? When you say non unix email accounts, it's an all others kind of statement. Best Regards, Camron Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu America, INC. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] POSTFIX......
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 08:34:56AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:35:44AM -0700, goku ball z wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... This is of course really a Postfix question, and as you get into more detail you will probably need to try the postfix-users mailing list and read it for a bit. Also, if you have Postfix installed on your system already, there should be a number of extensive man pages and README files installed on your system answering a lot of questions relating to this one. Try man 5 access for instance, and search (depending on ^ Sorry, I meant man 5 virtual for explanation of virtual user map lookups. man 5 access is for access lists (primarily anti-spam measures.) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] POSTFIX......
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:35:44AM -0700, goku ball z wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... This is of course really a Postfix question, and as you get into more detail you will probably need to try the postfix-users mailing list and read it for a bit. Also, if you have Postfix installed on your system already, there should be a number of extensive man pages and README files installed on your system answering a lot of questions relating to this one. Try man 5 access for instance, and search (depending on your distro's preferred install place) /usr/share/doc/postfix, or perhaps /usr/local/doc/postfix and look for VIRTUAL_README and DATABASE_README. Furthermore, there's the web documentation on the http://www.postfix.org/ website. However, to save you some time the answer to your question is of course yes. In Postfix you can define virtual users with flat ASCII files, with Berkeley DB files, with LDAP, with Postgres SQL, with CDB, and with pretty nearly anything which has some kind of query or lookup syntax. What will be best for your situation depends entirely on your situation and circumstances. A few words of caution: Installing mailserver software is easy, no harder than installing any other piece of software. Correctly administering, configuring, and operating a mailserver, especially for the use of others besides yourself, requires relatively advanced UNIX system administration and troubleshooting skills. That's been true for probably 20 years or more, but it's even more so in this age of massive bot-net spam driven by organized crime. If you don't configure your system from the outset with some carefully configured and relatively sophisticated anti-spam measures, it would be easy to start up and immediately get your users' mailboxes totally flooded with spam to the point that it cripples your system. (There are also a lot of anti-spam snake oil solutions out there, such as SAV and C/R systems which can get you into still more trouble.) I don't mean to scare you off, but you should be aware of the hassles from the outset. Hope this helps, -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] POSTFIX......
On 10/18/07, Clifton Royston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:35:44AM -0700, goku ball z wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... This is of course really a Postfix question, and as you get into more detail you will probably need to try the postfix-users mailing list and read it for a bit. I think it is an answer to the wrong question. If the question is really how to I set up a mail system for non-unix users, one good answer is to use Zimbra, bundling anti-spam, imap, ldap, pop, smtp and webmail all into one system. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
