Re: [LUAU] Is this list still alive...
Luau was pretty quiet in the past because there were other lists to post problems. Now that a little time has passed and the dust has settled maybe it's time to get back to using Luau in a manner in which it was intended, to post problems and discuss fixes. No need for any talk about stepping down. Vince, you have done wonderful things for the Linux users, and things wouldn't function as well if you changed. Keep up the good work. Ted If you review the archives, the volume was pretty low before the storm as well. Most of the traffic before came from Jim and Scott. What sort of activity do you want to see now? Michael tried kick starting things with his Django presentation. I registered freesoftwarehawaii.org to potentially move away from hosef.org. I am willing to step down as moderator as well if it means discussions improve. -Vince On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:47 AM, John Call [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to the list -- I think I subscribed just after some things happened. Too bad. I hope to see some activity return to the list. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] HOSEF ?= LUG
BRAVO Michael,, You said it all. After attending PyCon 2008 (which was awesome) and chatting up various people there, my view on LUGs and community groups has changed. Please allow me to share my thoughts and questions with you. What ever happen to the local Linux Users Group (LUG)? As I recall MPLUG (Mid Pacific Linux Users Group) was rolled into HOSEF to create a unified *nix group, or at least join forces, since at the time few people were interested. I know this is no longer the case, I think there are many people in Hawaii interested in *nix. I think the flame-fests and lack of LUG events have turned people off. I see fewer posts with *nix questions and more about infighting and power-plays. However, I think some good has come out of the latest batch of posts with regard to restructuring HOSEF. With that in mind... I'm confused about the membership thing. To be a member of the local LUG (HOSEF), which advocates FOSS which is free, I must pay to be a member? I don't believe most LUGs require a cash donation to become a member. If HOSEF is to continue to be the local LUG, I think it should start doing more LUG stuff or perhaps MPLUG should rise again. Warren still owns the domain and I think he might let us use it. I think LUG membership should be determined by interest and/or attendance to meetings. For example, you can only become a member by attending and signing up at OpenSource Pizza, the monthly LUG meeting, or other LUG events. That way it gets the members and potential members interacting. I enjoyed getting together for Pizza after slugging computers around at PriceBusters. The membership list should be used only to show that there is support in Hawaii. Right now I couldn't tell if there were 5 or 500 people in support of the Oahu LUG. I say Oahu, not Hawaii, LUG because there is a Big Island Linux Users Group [http://bilug.org/]. Not to exclude them, but point out there is a Big Island LUG, where is the Oahu LUG? [1] Why can't the HOSEF website say it's the local LUG? It looks like HOSEF, the foundation, gobbled up HOSEF, the LUG. I think the LUG part of HOSEF needs to be acknowledged more. If HOSEF is the local LUG, why hasn't there been a hosef-announce post about the upcoming Shakacon? What about a calendar or ical feed from google? Maybe HOSEF should pay a director to keep this active? As for money to fund to operations, I would rather attend OpenSource Pizza, chip in $10 for pizza and drinks, and HOSEF keep the change. I would like to see an Unconference [2] at least once, if not twice, a year. It doesn't have to be a 3 day marathon. Just a single weekend day with some interesting talks and lunch. I found the Ruby talk and Funding, Act 221 talk at the 2008 Unconferenz [3] constructive, enlightening and informative. (Just to be clear the Unconferenz was not run by HOSEF) I'd happily fork over $30 for a good lunch, a shirt and the rest going to HOSEF. I'm sure this could somehow be hosted at UH or a Community College. Maybe an Unconference and PFOSSCON could be the 2 main annual conferences. The Unconference being a local community event. PFOSSCON being a bigger deal with out-of-state speakers. I really liked the last PFOSSCON. Perhaps the extra money could bring big speakers to the islands. Or perhaps local sponsors could help fund it. Personally I'd love to see Guido or Linus come to the islands. Isn't there a famous guy from SANS that lives on the Big Island? Money received should go to support hardware/hosting for the lists, website and mirror. The LUG should have direct control over the equipment. An individual should not be footing the bill or have supreme control over the operation of such. As for eWaste, I think HOSEF, the foundation, should stop taking in computer trash for money and go back to a standards based approach. Only take in P3+, 19+ CRT, any LCD, servers, server parts and cool tech stuff. I think donations of money should be requested, not required, to cover the pickup costs and to perpetuate HOSEF. For businesses, broken stuff that's easily fixable should possibly require a donation for pickup because HOSEF would be providing a service that would otherwise have to be paid for. We don't want to become the free alternative to proper disposal. Every situation should be handled with care. I wouldn't turn away an 8-way server because the donator wouldn't pay to have it hauled away. As for storage, each lab could have at least a little space for spares and if possible extra storage for HOSEF. Once the cache of spares at each school fills up, either dump the junker stuff or don't take the donation. Perhaps HOSEF can work with one of the local big storage companies to grant HOSEF some space for a set period of time (1 year+). Maybe to have small storage caches at strategic locations throughout the island. For any excess computer equipment, how about a waiting list of people
RE: [LUAU] Floppy drive not mounting / found
Scott, Have a look at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B7E85J/ref=ord_cart_sh r/102-2988827-4360966?%5Fencoding=UTF8m=A2JSBUBRVPP4SXv=glance It's a VGA/SVGA Y splitter for about $4.00. I use one similar to this for hooking in a projector between a thin client and it's monitor. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HawaiiDakine.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:53 AM To: LUAU Subject: Re: [LUAU] Floppy drive not mounting / found Scott E Foulk wrote: Aloha, One of our teachers, Derek Esibill, is trying to get his floppy drive to work on his LTSP server. Any ideas why it suddenly would not work? It is a standard type of fd, not USB. Also, can anyone recommend a video card for his server? He is looking for a higher-end card, preferably with 2 out ports so he can simultaneously use the projector and see the image on his screen. If there is such a thing as a video signal splitter, then a one port output would be fine. Thanks for any and all assists. Scott ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ... ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
[LUAU] FW: Linux and Sony PS2
Folks, Earl works with the Charter Schools here in Hawaii and is asking for some help. I don't have/use a Sony PlayStation so this is news to me but if anyone out there has one of these things and would care to part with it, or knows how to get one, please e-mail Earl. Mahalo, Ted -Original Message- From: Earl Fusato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:23 PM To: Ted Kanemori; Earl Fusato Subject: Re: Linux and Sony PS2 Hi Ted, Hope all is well with you. Would like to ask for some help. I am working with Waimea Middle School and I have been looking into the possibility of using the Sony Play Station as a platform to have some of the students do some programming. I found that Sony has released a linux program development kit. It sold out the first day it was offered. I was wondering whether there is anyone in your group that purchased one and is not using it. I want to purchase one to see how it will fit into the school's program. Here is the link to the development kit: http://www.us.playstation.com/peripherals.aspx?id=SCPH-97047 Please let me know what you find. Mahalo, Earl
RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop
Wilson, I tried using the scripts and this is what I found: reset-default-desktop student1 resets the desktop of student1 to the default background and restores the icons for the trash, start here and home folder after the command is executed. (this is good) It does not put the floppy access icon back onto the desktop.(this is not good) Everything else that was left on the desktop is still there. (this is okay) The reset-all-desktops seem to do the same for all of the profiles. Is there a way to run the script and get the floppy access icon back onto the desktop as the desktop is being restored? *note: I'm testing with K12LTSP Fedora Core-1. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson Chan Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:13 PM To: LUAU Subject: Re: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Actually, the script is located here: /opt/ltsp/templates/k12linux/reset-all-desktops This is what I have in Crontab. It runs the reset desktop script once every morning when no one is on it. 0 3 * * * root /opt/ltsp/templates/k12linux/reset-all-desktops So, if dont feel like hacking up kde or gnome maybe it would be safe to run the script between class times. :) Im not sure what happens when you run the script when people are logged in so you might need to test it to see what it does. *Crontab Format* Each entry in Crontab has at least 6 fields separated by a single space. Field 1:: Minute --- Range of Values : 0-59 Field 2:: Hour --- Range of Values : 0-23 Field 3:: Day --- Range of Values : 1-31 Field 4:: Month --- Range of Values : 1-12 Field 5:: Day of week --- Range of Values : 0-6 (Sunday being 0) Field 6:: Command to Execute - Original Message - From: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:45:13 -1000 Subject: Re: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Ted Kanemori wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. Where is this script? And how do I get it to run when the user logs on or off? I'll try it. http://hs.riverdale.k12.or.us/terminal/faq.html This is the script Wilson referred to. A cron job can be created to reset the classroom daily, and shortcuts can be created for the instructor to do it on demand. This is from the 4.2 release notes. Perhaps the location has changed. ltsp_desktop_reset-0.0.3-1.k12ltsp.4.1 /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Reset your desktop * GNOME 2.6 uses Desktop now instead of .gnome-desktop Ted --scott ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop
Thanks for the suggestion. Where is this script? And how do I get it to run when the user logs on or off? I'll try it. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson Chan Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:35 AM To: LUAU Subject: RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Can't you just make the reset-desktop script run when users log off or on? That would solve the problem. Wilson - Original Message - From: Ted Kanemori [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'LUAU' luau@lists.hosef.org Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:09:50 -1000 Subject: RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Over at Enchanted Lake Elementary, we have a 28 thin client lab. The lab is completely run by the teachers. They're getting better by the day. But: So are the kids. They've learned that they can customize their profile. They (some of them) have caused problems by deleting the desktop icons, adding more shortcuts, changing the background,,, etc. The next class comes in and,,Miss xx,,, my screen is different. It takes time to reset the profile. Is there a way to lock down the desktop so that studentXX can use it but can't change it? Ted ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop
Yes, all the clients are booted off the server. Having an individual login would require getting the student names of the school system (like Liholiho did) and keeping it current (the student's names change from semester to semester). Being that they do not have a Tech Coordinator, we're trying to keep it basic. Multiple classes use the lab and they are using the same generic profiles for now (studentXX/studentXX). As for guarding the system, kids will be kids, bless them all. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:41 AM To: LUAU Subject: Re: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Hmm, aren't all the student machines booted from the server? A lot of good learning comes from exactly this kind of hacking. Perhaps a way such that studentXXX can have her/his own login? The normal course of events here is that you take the ones who are good at hacking, and give them the task of guarding the system. Jim On Feb 10, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Ted Kanemori wrote: Over at Enchanted Lake Elementary, we have a 28 thin client lab. The lab is completely run by the teachers. They're getting better by the day. But: So are the kids. They've learned that they can customize their profile. They (some of them) have caused problems by deleting the desktop icons, adding more shortcuts, changing the background,,, etc. The next class comes in and,,Miss xx,,, my screen is different. It takes time to reset the profile. Is there a way to lock down the desktop so that studentXX can use it but can't change it? Ted ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop
Thanks Tom, I'll work on it. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:45 AM To: LUAU Subject: RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop We learned how to do this at TPOSSCON with KDE at multiple levels with a text editor or a GUI. See http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ (kiosk framework is where it's @) Tom Ted Kanemori [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/02/2005 07:09 AM Please respond to LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org To 'LUAU' luau@lists.hosef.org cc Subject RE: [LUAU] k12ltsp desktop Over at Enchanted Lake Elementary, we have a 28 thin client lab. The lab is completely run by the teachers. They're getting better by the day. But: So are the kids. They've learned that they can customize their profile. They (some of them) have caused problems by deleting the desktop icons, adding more shortcuts, changing the background,,, etc. The next class comes in and,,Miss xx,,, my screen is different. It takes time to reset the profile. Is there a way to lock down the desktop so that studentXX can use it but can't change it? Ted ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] Kernel panic?
Karen, I'm assuming that this was the PC that you were building. Before you go any further, as the system is booting, go to setup. Check that the system can see the drives correctly. If you changed the IDE cables and something is not exactly right, the system won't see the drive or drives and everything else is for naught. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Lofstrom Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:05 PM To: LUAU Subject: Re: [LUAU] Kernel panic? On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Jim Thompson wrote: check /etc/fstab ? How do I check /etc if I can't boot as far as the command line? Boot with Knoppix? -- Karen Lofstrom ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] Kernel panic?
Karen, I'm assuming that this was the PC that you were building. Before you go any further, as the system is booting, go to setup. Check that the system can see the drives correctly. If you changed the IDE cables and something is not exactly right, the system won't see the drive or drives and everything else is for naught. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Lofstrom Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:39 PM To: HOSEF management discussion Cc: Linux/Unix Advocates/Users Hawaiian community discussion list Subject: [LUAU] Kernel panic? I had assembled my Frankensteined system unit, installed Mandrake, and had my new Linux box working successfully. BUT ... I didn't have IDE cables long enough to connect to the drive drawer. So I got and installed new cables, booted up the machine, and got an error message. The system starts lilo, chugs along until it gets to mounting root, fails, flails around a bit, and then gives me a kernel panic message. It can't be the hard drive isn't working, or it wouldn't get as far as it does. I'm sure that this is something simple and obvious, but flipping through my Linux books doesn't help. Any advice for a confused Linux newbie? -- Karen Lofstrom yes, newbie, because this is the first time I've built a Linux system from scratch ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] Linux on television
This Saturday 11Am till noon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nakashima Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:42 AM To: LUAU Subject: Re: [LUAU] Linux on television On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, at 11:06 PM, Ted Kanemori wrote: This Thursday(09/23) from 4PM to 5pm, Scott Belford will be on channel 56, TechTalk and will talking about Linux and HOSEF. Will there be a rebroadcast? I missed it :-( --Peter ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [LUAU] HOSEF's storyis in the Advertiser
Hey, HOSEF is in this morning's Honolulu Advertiser. Page B3. A very nice story of what we're doing for schools and a splash on the upcoming TO SEE A LAB open house next week at some of our showcase schools. Have a look. Ted
[LUAU] Linux K12-LTSP workshop
FYI: For anyone who is interested in what HOSEF is doing with Linux and HOSEF's ongoing program to put Linux and computers into our schools, the following is taken from the http://HOSEF.ORG calendar. * Linux Lab Classes 01:30 PM Saturday, June 26 2004 Duration: 2:30 hours Each Saturday for the entire summer, we will be creating a training and support curriculum for those who have set up, are going to set up, or are supporting Client/Server labs powered by Open Source Software like the K12LTSP project or Skolelinux. This is your chance to participate in learning how to be a junior sysadmin and in helping to create learning material for generations to come. Classes start at 1:30, but we try to have the lab open by 1. You are free to come and go at will. * On Saturday, three weeks ago, the attendees discussed what the content of these classes should be. On Saturday, two weeks ago, the class focused on the rational used behind sizing the server for K12-LTSP labs and what the server and clients should look like. Last week Saturday, the class was devoted to an actual install of the K12-LTSP server code. From this week, time will be dedicated to going into possible configuration tasks and system administration responsibilities. If you are interested(or curious), please feel free to join us. We meet at the McKinley Community School for Adults. 634 Pensacola Street, Room 216 The Linux lab is on the 2nd floor of the white building next to the parking lot. Once into the building make your way upstairs to the 2nd floor. Go into the room that has the LINUX sign on the wall.
RE: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops
Brian, What's this world come to? The details of this incident and a description of the items should be posted on the front page of the newspaper. Is there anyone who knows how to make it happen? Like the Perry and Price posse? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Chee Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops To Whom It May Concern: On March 9, 2004 between 6:45pm and 8:45pm HST a rental vehicle was broken into at Ala Moana Center Mall Level on the Shirokiya side of the parking area near the ramp leading down to Mahu Kona Street. Taken from the trunk were two backpacks containing laptops and PDA (serial numbers listed below) belonging to a Senior Editor for Infoworld Magazine and a vendor, both taking part in a magazine product test at the UH ICS Department. This is to request that if you are approached to fix a laptop fitting this description, that you contact the Honolulu Police Department immediately. IBM ThinkPad T41 Model: 2373-9FU Serial: 99CDRZK Model: iPAQ Pocket PC h4350 Serial Number: TWC3450R69 Model: Toshiba Portege 3490CT S/N: 61216777PU Please help send a message of Aloha to our mainland high-tech visitors. /brian chee University of Hawaii ICS Dept Advanced Network Computing Lab 1680 East West Road, POST rm 311 Honolulu, HI 96822 808-956-5797 voice, 877-284-1934 fax ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops
When someone smashes into my car with their automobile, as long as nobody gets hurt, I can usually chalk it up to being an accident. When someone breaks into a car, for whatever reason, it's a lawless act of hooliganism. By not getting ticked off, it drives up insurance rates, helps proliferate crime here in Hawaii and gives the State a big black eye. I'm not proud of the fact that Hawaii is the number one State for Crack use. Everyone named John Q. Citizen should get upset when bad thing like that happen. Laptop computers or not. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops Thats just silly. They are just laptops! Things like this are lost/stolen every day. It would be a serious waste of media. This is why people have comprehensive/personal effects/homeowners and renters insurance. Any one of these would have covered the guy's stuff in the car (regardless that it is a rental car). Unless they are low-end policies. Sure, blow up my car with a bazooka. I'll just get a new one with all new stuff! Tom Ted Kanemori [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/10/04 11:59 AM Please respond to luau To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops Brian, What's this world come to? The details of this incident and a description of the items should be posted on the front page of the newspaper. Is there anyone who knows how to make it happen? Like the Perry and Price posse? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Chee Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops To Whom It May Concern: On March 9, 2004 between 6:45pm and 8:45pm HST a rental vehicle was broken into at Ala Moana Center Mall Level on the Shirokiya side of the parking area near the ramp leading down to Mahu Kona Street. Taken from the trunk were two backpacks containing laptops and PDA (serial numbers listed below) belonging to a Senior Editor for Infoworld Magazine and a vendor, both taking part in a magazine product test at the UH ICS Department. This is to request that if you are approached to fix a laptop fitting this description, that you contact the Honolulu Police Department immediately. IBM ThinkPad T41 Model: 2373-9FU Serial: 99CDRZK Model: iPAQ Pocket PC h4350 Serial Number: TWC3450R69 Model: Toshiba Portege 3490CT S/N: 61216777PU Please help send a message of Aloha to our mainland high-tech visitors. /brian chee University of Hawaii ICS Dept Advanced Network Computing Lab 1680 East West Road, POST rm 311 Honolulu, HI 96822 808-956-5797 voice, 877-284-1934 fax ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] HOSEF eSchool conference volunteers needed
A little more on what the booth is about: We will have 5 systems showing off LINUX. For anyone who passes by and is curious about the words LINUX, OPEN SOURCE or HOSEF, they will be able to use/play with the systems. We could use folks that could assist these conference attendees. ( show them the gui, which icon is the word processor, the browser, etc. ) --Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] HOSEF eSchool conference volunteers needed HOSEF needs some folks to man our booth during Hawaii DOE' eSchool Conference (http://www.k12.hi.us/~eschool/conf2003/). Our booth will run from 7:30 am to 4:00 pm on March 11 and 12 at the Sheraton Wakiki Hotel. The booth will demo clients running off a linux terminal server and promote HOSEF's willingness to assist schools in setting up open source computers. Experience with linux terminal servers is preferable but only a modest familiarity of linux is required. Warren, Scott and I should be there most of that time but we would like to have specific people responsible for specific times. Since 7:30 am is early to be there, at least for me, Ted Kanemori's coverage of the first couple of hours each morning should be sufficient. If you want to attend but are not sure of the exact time, please reply because only those signed up will be allowed in. DEADLINE: Thursday evening, Jan. 22. I know that is not a long time but I only became aware of the deadline a few minutes before writing this message. Friday morning I am going to pass the names on to Peter Nakashima who will report them to the DOE. --Patrick ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] goofy install
I've had problems like that before. Usually turned out to be a bad CD or the wrong cd. I'd start by booting the 1st cd on another machine(if you don't want to abort the install) and scanning/testing the 3 cds. That's a start. It should identify the cd label during the scan. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TB Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:52 AM To: luau Subject: [luau] goofy install I was installing RH9 yesterday and it got to the third CD but couldn't mount it. I've used these disks before, so I waqs surprised it was having a problem. I made a new disk 3, but it wouoldn't work with that one either. Do I have any alternative to hitting reset and starting over? Any idea why this would happen, other than something scratched my CD? More detail on symtoms: It spit out CD 2 put up the dialog box asking for CD 3. I put 3 in the tray and closed it, but it popped out again immediately. tried this several times. Then I just hit okaybutton on the dialog, the tray went in came out again I got a message CD failed to mount or something like that. Thanks for any clues. TB ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Linux Sys Admin Class:
I signed up and paid for the Linux Sys Admin class at McKinley. Is there a book or reference material that were supposed to buy/get for the class? Ted
RE: [luau] HI RR DNS IPs
Thanks for the heads up Steve, I believe the RR DNS servers were: 24.25.227.32 24.25.227.34 24.25.227.36 Again, if you or any of your friends or clients are using static DNS addresses on RR, the machines may be able to reach the internet but name resolution will not work. It'll appear like they can't connect. When Road Runner was called, they weren't very helpful. I know because I just helped some folks get their systems back on line. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Anderson Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] HI RR DNS IPs I noticed that the RR nameserver IPs were different than usual on a system that uses a DHCP client to connect to RR. It appears that the new RR nameserver IPs are: 24.25.227.64 24.25.227.66 24.25.227.33 Just wanted to pass along the info in case anyone else manually enters the nameservers on any systems. I don't know if there will be more nameserver changes. Steve ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Network problem
Just an idea: might try to see what's still working. I would try creating a hosts file in the windows directory. In it you can add the ip addresses and names of a few known hosts that are on the same network. ie. 192.168.1.151 main 192.168.1.160 freddy Then try to ping main and try to ping freddy. Can it resolve the name to an ip address? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of al plant Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Network problem Yuser wrote: Is this internal or external resolution? I have seen spyware that replaces the DNS suffix and possiby the DNS servers before. That would not explain the reason you can not ping it from somewhere by name though (assuming it worked before and nothing else changed like Netbios names). I've seen strange TCP/IP issues with IRQ sharing on Win98 before. I had a SBLive that did not play well with a network card when they were sharing IRQ's. I moved them around it it started working. Another thing to try is completely remove and then reinstall TCP/IP from the network setup. On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, al plant wrote: Any body have this problem with Windows 98? I have my friends Windows 98 box which runs behind a Linux/unix firewall router. It stopped resolving the IP addresses to the domain names on this box. The Netscape nor Explorer will not recognize the names. I cant ping from this box by name either, but using the IP address I can ping ok. Anybody know what resolves the name to the IP in Windows 98 that could be not set or screwed up? Thanks. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau * Reinstalling the TCP/IP is the first thing I did. -- Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote
My vote is for number 6. Tux looks like he's making his way to the nose of the board to HANG 6? (I don't know how many toes a penguin has) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote Please vote for one of the two logos, #5 or #6, by posting to the Luau mailing list. Deadline 27-June-2003, 11:59pm. http://www.hosef.org/logo.html Mahalo, Enrico ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote
This note is for everyone else who's going to vote: Does the penguin have to look exactly like Tux or are we looking for a figure that symbolizes(looks like) a penguin, and thus represents Linux? Does the penguin's arms have to be short, straight and pointy to look like a real penguin, or can it show off a fun attitude/time? Does the penguin have to be well balanced on the surfboard like a professional surfer, or does it matter? If we think outside the box, don't we want a UNIQUE logo that sets us apart but says LINUX, HAWAII, FUN, HOSEF? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote These votes don't count since they are not members, but they may be a good outside-Hawaii perspective. Guy in France: #5 looks too skinny, #6 arms too big. Guy in Germany: #5 looks more like a penguin, #6 arms too big. Guy on East coast USA: #5 Guy from Hawaii but going to school on mainland: #6 Guy from Japan #5 looks like a penguin ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo
I like number 6 too. It's simple. It's crisp. The capitol HOSEF name is good. It's got the wave and tux looks like he's having fun. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Belford Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Warren Togami wrote: http://www.hosef.org/logo.html I personally like #5 or #6 the best, but I am no artist. I'm heading to her house later today to see her recommendation drawing, although it was made after seeing only the first 3 on that page. I agree. The design of 5 and 6 is very appealing. I like the way #6 looks on the test page. In fact, I like it a lot. --scott ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] HOSEF Logo
I like number 5 because the logo is a little larger and therefore a bit clearer. Also, I like the fact that HOSEF.ORG is all capitalized. To me, HOSEF is not one word, but an acronym for 5 important words. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Belford Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] HOSEF Logo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't received any logo feedback since last week, so I created some new images. http://www.hosef.org/logo.html Comments? We were looking at these at the workshop today. I like the third one. I like Tux's posture on the board. I did not realize that we already had some up, so thanks Enrico. I actually like the third one a bit more than the clean ones. --scott Mahalo, Enrico ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more!
I was there at 10:15 this morning and I was the 3rd person to pay. At that time there were 6 people signed up and only three of us paid. I'm guessing that everyone else is holding back on paying for the class, waiting for the school to commit to the class. 1. As Matt said, they will refund you your money if the class is cancelled. 2. The class will certainly be cancelled if you don't pay for it by this Friday, which is when the cutoff is scheduled. Anyone who signed up for the class and didn't pay may as well not sign up. Names with no money will not be counted. Come on folks, if you signed up, that means you want to have/attend the class. Pay for the class so we can get at least 7 paid bodies. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew John Darnell Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more! Maddog and I just went down to sign up for the Smaba class. As of right now three people have paid, eight have signed up. They will refund your money if they don't get the 7 people for that class. If they had six paid, I would wager they would start the class. If the class goes as scheduled I will buy pizza and soda for eveyone the first night! Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more!
No, I don't. All I do know is that: There's going to be lots of time(30 hours) to work on Samba. It ought to be enough time to get to know all aspects of Samba and enough time to get all my questions answered. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Bow Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more! ALoha, Do we know who is teaching this class yet? I was there at 10:15 this morning and I was the 3rd person to pay. At that time there were 6 people signed up and only three of us paid. I'm guessing that everyone else is holding back on paying for the class, waiting for the school to commit to the class. 1. As Matt said, they will refund you your money if the class is cancelled. 2. The class will certainly be cancelled if you don't pay for it by this Friday, which is when the cutoff is scheduled. Anyone who signed up for the class and didn't pay may as well not sign up. Names with no money will not be counted. Come on folks, if you signed up, that means you want to have/attend the class. Pay for the class so we can get at least 7 paid bodies. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew John Darnell Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more! Maddog and I just went down to sign up for the Smaba class. As of right now three people have paid, eight have signed up. They will refund your money if they don't get the 7 people for that class. If they had six paid, I would wager they would start the class. If the class goes as scheduled I will buy pizza and soda for eveyone the first night! Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Wayne Bow Network Administrator St Francis School (808) 988.4111 ext 107 Quality Catholic Education in a Spirit of Joy ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] McKinley Linux Classes:
The Samba class has 2 paid up people on the list. You need to show them the money to be signed up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Thompson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] McKinley Linux Classes: Are you sure about the numbers? I signed up for Samba a week ago and I was the third person to do so. Mark Thompson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Kanemori Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] McKinley Linux Classes: As we get closer to next week(when the Linux server classes begin), I got curious and called to find out how many people are in the Samba and Apache classes. As of today, Apache has 3 people signed up (I'm one of them). As of today, Samba has 2 people signed up. Apache is hard to attend because it starts at 3PM in the afternoon. Samba starts at 6PM in the evening. Hopefully, the school will get at least 7 people for each class, or the class won't be held. What a bargin, as far as a 30 hour class for $100.00. What a shame if they have to cancel the class ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion
Course Schedule and General Information - http://mcsa.k12.hi.us From there, click on Session Info Click on Class Schedules Click on Special interest classes: Computer Classes From what I understand, today, 6/6 is the last day to sign up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Baptista Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion has put together a nice set of Linux offerings for the summer session What/when/where? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion
To anyone who's interested in getting some Linux type training. You will probably never find a less expensive way of getting these classes. The classes come out to about $3.00 per hour + $10 lab fee. Think about it. Course Schedule and General Information - http://mcsa.k12.hi.us From there, click on Session Info Click on Class Schedules Click on Special interest classes: Computer Classes From what I understand, today, 6/6 is the last day to sign up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Baptista Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion has put together a nice set of Linux offerings for the summer session What/when/where? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Linux and associated type classes:
To anyone who'd be interested in attending Linux type classes. McKinley Community School for Adults is getting ready to start up their Summer 2003 classes. Among the MANY computer type courses that they offer, they will also have classes on: Linux Basic Apache Web Server Samba File Server SQL Database Server These classes will be starting up during the 2nd and 3rd weeks of June. The registration dates are May 27 to June 6. For the course length, cost, start dates, etc, call McKinley. 594-0540/594-0541 Ted
RE: [luau] Law stuff advice
Randall, ** Be vry careful **: When you work for a company, and get paid by that company, the company does have certain rights of ownership to intellectual property. How you define intellectual property is dependent on the circumstances. In this case, the server was voluntarily brought in and used to grow the business. Rather then just file and print sharing, it might just as well have been used to do the payroll, inventory and invoicing. If the owner of the system quits, unplugs the system and carts it away, it could be interpreted as causing a hardship on the company and the employees. If the company loses business and jobs because of this, it could lead to litigation. The owner of the system is entitled to claim his property, but in doing so, should not cause damage, so to speak. It could be that the correct thing to do is put the system back temporarily, till the company buys another system. Use Disk Copy or Ghost or whatever is handy, replicate the hard drive to the new system hard drive, and then, yank the old system. The entire process should take less then a day. The preceeding was just an opinion. If my opinion makes sense, I know that this is going to be a hard bullet to swallow but it might avoid HPD, lawyers and getting sued(big bucks). Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Law stuff advice Get your servers and put it in storage. They can't file charges against you because you are aren't operating the file and print sharing for them. They don't have a case against you. But it seems like they are trying to take your servers away from you. Get that away from they asap. Find paperwork proving that you own those servers. Sorry I can't offer legal advice but I can try to help. Virgil I quit my job. The company changed ownership and I did not agree with the new management. (They wanted to put the servers in the hallway so they could open up another office!) This company was using my server as their file/print server. When I left I took my server with me. I returned all files to them via CD ROM. They are filing charges on me with HPD saying that I should have the file and print sharing operational. Is that true? Members of the company knew that the server was mine so wouldn't they expect for me to take my server with me if I left? And to have lost those services as well? They are also saying that I stole the server since rent was not paid for, but I was able to get into the office without unlocking a single door. Don't I have a right to get my stuff if the doors are not locked and landlord lieu is not implemented? Randall ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] RE:open source article
Yes, HOSEF is a little conservative. Please understand that HOSEF is made up of volunteers that give up their time on Saturdays and Monday nights to work on equipment that is less then new. Challenged to repair, fix and patch pre-owned equipment, find out if this equipment will run reliably, load a Linux OS and basic applications, mate and test peripherals to have a complete system that'll do what it's intended to do. Then load this equipment in their private vehicles and deliver them to locations where it'll serve it's purpose best. The HOSEF volunteers do not get paid, or ask for reimbursements. They don't get fed or anything in return, except for the satisfaction that they may have done some good for the community. Convince the state? George Bush had 300,000 troops, 80 billion dollars, and several coalition partners to do a regime change. Here in Hawaii, it takes lobbying and patience to change things. Are there folks that'll dedicate themselves to sitting at the capitol to convince lawmakers to see the light? Are there folks that'll sponsor the grants that are suggested? 1. People don't change because human nature dictates that a resistance to change is normal. Especially if it's going to involve work. Before people will be willing to change, they need to see how the change will benefit them and make life easier (and cheaper). 2. Most folks don't know what Linux is. They've got their hands full doing an 8 hour a day job and trying to understand Windows or Mac. They need to be INTRODUCED to Linux. You can't stuff a round Linux into a square hole. HOSEF is doing a wonderful job of putting Linux in front of the public so people can understand it and choose to come on board. 3. Scott has been spending tons of time looking for computer donations to shore up the Linux momentum. Some of it has resulted in a few pre-owned systems, but not enough. If there are folks who know folks who have connections to organizations that can donate equipment that is being replaced or upgraded, it'd help the cause. 4. Every day it seems like there are more and more people who are stepping forward, introducing themselves and actively helping to make inroads into the State system. Changes will not happen overnight, but if the cause is just, the right thing will prevail. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TB Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:06 AM To: luau Subject: Re: [luau] RE:open source article why is the state pushing MS Office? Inertia. They are rarely ahead of the technology curve on anything, and open source is still pretty rare on the desktop. How many people do you know who use linux or have some OSS app on their windows desktop that you don't know through this list or some high-tech connection? For me it's still zero. The day will come when Joe Sixpack will be using OSS because it's cheaper better, but it ain't here yet. Just on Tuesday I was a visitor at UH Engineering college, they too have so much to offer the state, I'm saying why not use the college to develop open source programs, other equiptment (servers, computers) for the state and keep the money and the knowledge base in the state. They already do major research projects that can mean $$$ for the state. 1) It would have to be part of some research project, not just a production deal. The university is in the research business, not high tech job training (perhaps unfortunately). Still I suppose it could be done somehow - ANCL http://ancl.ics.hawaii.edu/ might be a good model, they have research stuff in their mission statement, but I am tempted to think of them as primarily a testing lab (formerly for Internet Week, now InfoWorld). You'd need to find some OSS guru to lead it. Anyone want to go for a PHD at UH to fill this void? But if all the state wants is integration of existing software (seems likely?), then there's really no research aspect and so no role for the university. The HOSEF approach has been a bit conservative in this area (probably rightly), just replace current windows-based computing capabilities of Hawaii schools or expand computing capabilities with OSS because it's cheaper better. Maybe I'm not being creative enough, but I don't hear an obvious research question there. If that's our motivation, then the big question is where do we get the resources we need? and going through the university just complicates matters. 2) Someone at the legislature has to take a leadership position carry the ball (at least nominally). Maybe Hoala's efforts with Ige will get this going. Alternative approaches would be to offer research grants in the area (generally, not just UH), or have a contest of some kind. But we need to be a bit more specific about what we want than open source software developed or integrated or used or maintained in Hawaii. Don't we? And of course there's what we have now - let HOSEF volunteers do
RE: [luau] What does Everyone think of ACT221?
In the luau e-mail, I read some comments that are pro 221 and some comments that are con 221. The newspapers are a good source of information where it comes to telling us what meetings are being held, but it usually ends the story with a 10,000 feet summation of what happened at those meetings. Except for the editorials, newspapers are not supposed to be judgmental just state the facts. To really understand the essence of Bill 221, you need to go to the Hawaii web site and look at some of the material that goes with the Bill. Like: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2001/bills/HB175_cd1_.htm http://www.state.hi.us/tax/announce/2001ann14.htm Nobody is saying that the bill is bad. It is a good thing, and it has been taken advantage of by a number of technology companies. I was at the Bill 221 hearing sponsored by HTTA at the capitol, and the companies that were represented gave testimonials that spoke well of the bill and the help that it gave them, but it was expected that their presentation would be favorable to the purpose of the meeting. I have not heard of any small startup companies that have made any major decisions based on the Bill's tax incentives. I would like to hear from folks that work for, or own small startups that have benefited from this bill in a way that actually influenced the course of their company's growth. Reading through some of the bill's content, it was interesting how many exemptions were being allowed for a company considered to be a QHTB (qualifying high technology business). It struck me that some of it almost equated to free money A tax credit or stimulus package is one thing, but tax credits that result in credits exceeding the tax liability is another. From what I read, hear and think, it seems to me like the administration is saying that in this AUSTERE economic period, the bill is just too generous. It's too broad, covers too many things, does not have enough accountability and needs some changes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] What does Everyone think of ACT221? Thank you Scott. Those words are inspiring words to say the least and provides good ammo on why the State shouldn't change ACT221. I'm beginning to see the light. Yesterday at the HVCA part with Ted Liu proceedings, I stated my opinions about ACT221. Its that I don't support it. I wholeheartedly support its mission and goals and what it aims to accomplish. However, my opinions wasn't received well with some of the members and they kinda looked at me as if I was crazy. What I'm trying to say here is that HTTA and other high tech organizations should put more focus on informing the public and what the goals of ACT221 aims to accomplish and really show the benefits of this law to Hawaii. So far, I see none of that taking place. There are no publications or commercials about ACT2221. Heck if those religious people (forgive me if I offend anyone) were able to come up with a simple video to give to everyone for free, why can't they tech industry which has so much to gain come up with simple, marketing solutions as well? Virgil As I understand it, there are a few cases of abuse that should be remedied. This does not merit the public smear campaign that the Lingle administration and now the Star-Bulletin seem to endorse. By smear campaign I mean publicly berating the entire Act for the offenses of a few. By doing so, I am yet to see an informed discussion of specific problems that can be remedied with specific proposals. This is a problem. I depend on my newspaper to research both sides of an issues and offer an investigative report. I am getting propaganda without proposals. From our Governor, a Republican no less, I expect a good reason why we need to take more money out of our economy and put it in the Government. This belies the supply-side philosophy her party and presumably she embraces. I think that the Act is amazing. Nothing has motivated me to try harder to create a technology company than this. My motivation is experiencing undue anxiety, though, because I do not know what steps my Government will take to change this Act. Business hates uncertainty, and Lingle is creating *way* too much uncertainty. She needs to suggest exactly what needs to be changed and then propose it. Period. What we have now are sweeping criticisms of an Act that is supposedly corrupt and is lacking proof of success. If our media and our Government would spend the same amount of time researching and reporting specific abuses and successes, we would be far more informed and capable of taking action. The FUD cloud we are now in benefits only the decision-makers. I think Act 221 is visionary for a State that depends on the good will and generosity of complete strangers who decide to travel here and pay inflated
RE: [luau] Network switch
Take a look at: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randall Oshita Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Network switch I personally have a SuperStack II 3300 (24 ports) at home, and I love it. I can easily move 16MB/sec (full duplex, 100Mbit, one comp with a good NIC talking to two comps with crummy NICs) over a single port on it. It's been very reliable, despite the partial failure of one fan. --MonMotha Is there some sort of Windows and/or Linux app that measures the speed? Where? Thanks. Randall ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] LotusNotes on Linux
Michael, Do you have, can you get or is there such a thing as Lotus Notes Client 4.6 for Linux? I know that there's some Domino(server) software for Linux. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael_Bishop/FARRINCS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] LotusNotes on Linux Has anyone been able to get LotusNotes 4.6 working on Linux? I been looking for more info on how to set it up and tried a few without luck. Any suggestions? Thanks. Michael ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Reminder - Seminar - Introduction to Linux (4/23/2003)
Warren, I'll be there. I looked at the map's directions and the pointer points at the Pacific Ocean Science Tech building. Is Post 127 the same as room 127 on the first floor? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Daniel Suthers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Reminder - Seminar - Introduction to Linux (4/23/2003) This is a reminder about Wednesday's session. It is just an introduction and overview to learn about the many things Linux can do. Many of the topics covered in this 2 hour overview session will have followup sessions and classes around town (McKinley community school, HCC, etc.) in the coming months. http://www.mplug.org/phpwiki/index.php/MPLUGSeminar16 Seminar: Introduction to Linux Date: Wednesday, April 23th, 2003 Time: 6:00pm - 8:00pm Cost: Free Food: Sorry no food Location: University of Hawaii, POST 127 http://www.mplug.org/phpwiki/index.php/UHPOST127 Map and Driving Directions This seminar is an overview that demonstrates installation of Red Hat Linux 9, Linux software installation, desktop applications, and a brief overview of more advanced things you can do with Linux. Warren will also talk about his semester ICS499 Fedora Linux project. Everyone from the community is welcome to this seminar. The topics of this seminar include: Live installation demo of Red Hat Linux 9 Linux desktop software demo Linux software installation Brief overview Server capabilities Software development tools Fedora Linux Please RSVP e-mail Warren Togami at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject LINUX SEMINAR 16 if you plan on coming. Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation http://www.hosef.org ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] chmod link screwup kills samba, login
From what little, I know, I think you did a recursive chmod. What you did is also dependent on where you were in the directory structure when you did it. If you remember the particulars of where you were, I would probably cd back to that location and do a chmod -R 715 tbu(turn on the execute permissions) and see how it affects Samba. If that doesn't do it, I'd repeat the command and change the permissions one at a time until I found out what I had turned off with the first command. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TB Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:02 AM To: luau Subject: [luau] chmod link screwup kills samba, login As root I did chmod -R 704 tbu Unfortunately, inside the directory tbu there was a link to /, so it attempted to chmod everything in my filesystem. Now I cannot log in normally and samba has stopped working. Okay, I am not expecting you guys to hand me the solution, but I really need a clue regarding where to start doing my homework. The question I need to figure out is, which permissions do I need to change and what do I change them to? How do I go about investigating this? Obviously I need to be able to log in. And getting samba working again is important. Right now I have it running off of a knoppix CD and I presume I can figure out how to mount my partitions rw chmod things. I just need to figure out what to change and what to change it to. Thanks in advance for even the most trivial or obscure clue. TB ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
FW: [luau] Mandrake 9.1 for PowerPC
Virgil, Try http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=29 Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Mandrake 9.1 for PowerPC Hi Warren, Ftp site isn't working. Thanks, Virgil http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.1/91ppc.php3 Mandrake 9.1 for PowerPC is available, extensive release notes You can download it from our Hawaii mirror ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake-iso/ppc Sorry the Oceanic mirror doesn't have enough disk space. Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
