[Lubuntu-admins] medis0003 approved by tsimonq2

2017-12-26 Thread Lubuntu
Hello Lubuntu Admins,

The membership status of Aeyes (medis0003) in the team Lubuntu (lubuntu-
desktop) was changed by Simon Quigley (tsimonq2) from Proposed to
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[Lubuntu-admins] drkokandy approved by tsimonq2

2017-12-26 Thread Lubuntu
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Re: [Lubuntu-admins] [lubuntu-users] lubuntu social media page shut down because of legal threats from Rafael Laguna

2017-12-26 Thread Simon Quigley
Hello Mario,

Before I give my response to you and my statement as the current Lubuntu
Team Lead, I would like to put forward a few quotes from the Ubuntu Code
of Conduct and Canonical's Intellectual Property statement to keep in
mind while reading my email.

From the Ubuntu Code of Conduct:

> We strive to:
> 
>   '''Be considerate.'''
> 
>   Our work will be used by other people, and we in turn will depend on
>   the work of others. Any decision we take will affect users and
>   colleagues, and we should consider them when making decisions.



>   '''Be collaborative.'''
> 
>   What we produce is a complex whole made of many parts, it is the sum
>   of many dreams. Collaboration between teams that each have their own
>   goal and vision is essential; for the whole to be more than the sum
>   of its parts, each part must make an effort to understand the whole.
> 
>   Collaboration reduces redundancy and improves the quality of our
>   work. Internally and externally, we celebrate good collaboration.
>   Wherever possible, we work closely with upstream projects and others
>   in the free software community to coordinate our efforts.
> 
>   We prefer to work transparently and involve interested parties as
>   early as possible.



>   '''Step down considerately.'''
> 
>   When somebody leaves or disengages from the project, we ask that
>   they do so in a way that minimises disruption to the project. They
>   should tell people they are leaving and take the proper steps to
>   ensure that others can pick up where they left off.



> '''Courage and considerateness'''
> 
> Leadership occasionally requires bold decisions that will not be
> widely understood, consensual or popular. We value the courage to take
> such decisions, because they enable the project as a whole to move
> forward faster than we could if we required complete consensus.
> Nevertheless, boldness demands considerateness; take bold decisions,
> but do so mindful of the challenges they present for others, and work
> to soften the impact of those decisions on them. Communicating changes
> and their reasoning clearly and early on is as important as the
> implementation of the change itself.

From Canonical's Intellectual Property statement:

> You will require Canonical’s permission to use: (i) any mark ending with
> the letters UBUNTU or BUNTU which is sufficiently similar to the Trademarks> 
> or any other confusingly similar mark, and (ii) any Trademark in a domain
> name or URL or for merchandising purposes.

Therefore, Canonical Limited is the rightful owner of the Lubuntu Trademark.

From here on, I speak as the Lubuntu Team Lead.

On 12/26/2017 05:16 AM, Mario Behling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is this supposed to be Christmas present? Please see the Trademark
> complaint of Rafael below. 

For the sake of transparency I would like to note that this was an
action taken not on behalf of Rafael directly but on behalf of the
Lubuntu Team/Project.

> This is making me very sad. The idea of Free and Open Source software
> was always to be inclusive and get others on board and build something
> open and free, where everyone can engage in.

Lubuntu as a project agrees with the notion that collaboration is
essential to any successful project, but the way you have been
displaying a lack of collaboration is contrary to the beliefs that
Lubuntu and Ubuntu has been founded on.

> Rafael & Co, why you are moving content to a closed site instead of
> keeping it up to date on the wiki?

The difference between Lubuntu.me and Lubuntu.net/org is that Lubuntu.me
is currently accessible by every single team lead within Lubuntu with
the exception of Unit193 as IRC lead, which we would be happy to grant
access to without hesitation if he wished (but he has declined). It is
the officially recognized (
https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours ) site where Lubuntu
publishes announcements which we, as a collaborative and open team, deem
are necessary to get out to users (and sometimes, we like to involve our
users in various projects that we are working on, including things like
artwork changes, new resources, etc.). The domain also rightfully is
under the control of Canonical Limited, who owns the trademark (and thus
should hold the domain) and we are in the process of transferring the
Wordpress site over to official Canonical Limited infrastructure.

On the other hand, Lubuntu.net/org is not accessible (despite your
claims) by any active member of the Lubuntu Team, is hosted on
infrastructure that is completely out of our control, and only makes
announcements when there is a new release of Lubuntu (which, by the way,
on Lubuntu.net/org, was published several days after the release, and
had the same content which was published on our official website) which
led dozens of users to contact us asking why we did not publish Lubuntu
17.10. This has crossed a boundary where it became detrimental to our users.

> lubuntu.net 
> always directed people