Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
On 02/23/2011 07:53 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. This sounds like a good idea to me, as long as pidgin-libnotify does not depend on a bunch of other packages which are not already in Lubuntu. Can you test this (install a fresh Lubuntu, then do sudo apt-get -s install pidgin-libnotify and see how many (and which) other packages would be installed) and let the list know the results? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. This sounds like a good idea to me, as long as pidgin-libnotify does not depend on a bunch of other packages which are not already in Lubuntu. Can you test this (install a fresh Lubuntu, then do sudo apt-get -s install pidgin-libnotify and see how many (and which) other packages would be installed) and let the list know the results? Team: Here's what Jonathan asked: Package to be included: pidgin-libnotify (295kb installed) ... and it depends on: libindicate-gtk2 libindicate4 (180kb both installed) That's for 10.04, but i guess that in newer versions it should be the same. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) Very humbly, -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) 2011/2/24 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 14:06 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : ... and it depends on: libindicate-gtk2 libindicate4 (180kb both installed) Hum, I don't see them by default on my Natty system. And it probably means that those library will be loaded. But, there are relative to indicators, and we don't use indicators by default. So, it's probably some useless ressources (not too much, but still). Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and with out pidgin-libnotify ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB on disk. It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let yourself be heard if you do. Kindest of regards, MrChrisDruif -- This message was sent from Launchpad by Chris Druif (https://launchpad.net/~chrisdruif) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page (https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
And it probably means that those library will be loaded. That's correct :) (that's why i've posted the kb from each package) Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and without pidgin-libnotify ? Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager 2011/2/24 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Hai Julian, Have you got pidgin installed, as on Ubuntu Maverick it's installed when I use the PPA (so I'm not sure with the repos version). And I'd need to install libnotify to use it in Lubuntu? Shouldn't it be activated/installed by default? Giving the Ubuntu feeling? Food for thought, Chris Druif -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required. Personally, i never lock the screen but i'm asuming that's a feature needed. Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. xlock can be launched without password confirmation: xlock -nolock - this should be configurable. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy. The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. I couldn't be more agree. ... it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE I think this is a crucial point according to the amount of cpu needed and the fact that it's an app running on the background consuming Ram... one of the goals of Lubuntu is to be *efficient* For the screen saving, It's relative to CRT screen, which are still used. But, having the ability to switch to a blank image maybe is enough. And I don't think xlock can do it. Just try xlock -mode blank for the blank image. Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? Been playing a little with xlock and it's sort of a lightweight-screensaver too, it draws on the screen things that i think most hardware can handle (i'll give it a try on my old amd-k6 to tell this) - This screensaver should be configurable if the user wants a blank screen or the aleatory screensaver set by default in xlock Should most hardware be able to handle them? Short answer, i think screensavers for old hardware were not exactly those in xcreensaver since it demands a good video card to work smoothly. xlock resulted to me much more attractive than xtrlock, but the problem remains the same: it can't be launched alone when the machine's been idle for a determined amount of time, so the idea that it depends on the power-manager to start sounds like a solution to me (so there are no additional daemons or apps running). Also xlock options could be handled in a new tab in the UI of gnome-power-manager, since they would be bundled (just ideas...) I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. Yes, but i don't know exactly how to say it in short words. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
