[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu
Hi Dan, Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:10:41 +0100 From: Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com To: lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu I've just discovered (after many painful hours of digging) that update-notifier somehow causes dbus to run gnome-screensaver, which of course competes with xscreensaver. I have no idea *how* update-notifier does it, but removing update-notifier.desktop from /etc/xdg/autostart solves the problem. Now, I prefer not to make system-wide changes. Is there a way (freedesktop, lxde, openbox or otherwise) to override autostart entries, or dbus session services, or to ban gnome-screensaver (short of apt-get remove)? This brings a larger question -- can we rely on gnome-screensaver never being started in a modern Linux distro? This is starting to look like a losing battle. I prefer x* to gnome-* any day, given the less-than-professional practices that surface so often in the Gnome team, but I was *very* tempted to replace xscreensaver with gnome-screensaver in /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart. I am on Ubuntu Lucid (0.5.0-3ubuntu2, update-notifier 0.99.3), so maybe this is all outdated. Even so I would like to file a bug in launchpad, since this is an LTS release. Note that on Ubuntu, non-admin users don't see the problem since for them update-notifier doesn't start. As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another couple of years life left. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu
As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another couple of years life left. I'll do that... though I'm not sure what component to file against. Regardless, some of the points I made were not Lubuntu, but LXDE-related, so I hope the list won't ignore my message? Even if update-notifier can be fixed, who guarantees that some other component in the future won't start gnome-screensaver and mess up xscreensaver? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:02:17 +0100 Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com wrote: As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another couple of years life left. I'll do that... though I'm not sure what component to file against. I'd file it against update-notifier initially and allow those with a bit more knowledge of these things to decide where the problem really lies. Make sure you add the tag lubuntu to the bug report. Regardless, some of the points I made were not Lubuntu, but LXDE-related, so I hope the list won't ignore my message? Even if update-notifier can be fixed, who guarantees that some other component in the future won't start gnome-screensaver and mess up xscreensaver? The dev team is quite small, so answers may be a bit slow but I doubt it will be ignored. Sadly with software getting more and more complex I don't think anybody can make guarantees like that. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 22:50 +, Yorvyk a écrit : The two sub-menus, so the menu looks like this: Accessories Games Graphics Internet Office Sound Video ___ Preferences System Tools ___ Run ___ Logout Preferences and System Tools order is hard-coded, just like in Ubuntu. I don't think it's useful to have them ordered, there is only 2 items. IMO it's easier to have them always in the same order, so you can expect to have Preferences below System Tools. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion of guvciew
Hi! I proposed to include guvcview near month ago. I have already tested it on my asus m51tr, asus eee pc 1015 pn and hp 2133. It is working fine. No problems at all. Best regards, Mike Nokel 2011/2/26 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Hi, With the removal of cheese, we have nothing to test a webcam, especially on the live-cd. Someone proposed to include guvcview. It seems to be a good choice : quite simple and not too much dependencies. Did someone already test it ? I don't have a webcam, I'll be glad if someone have feedbacks about it :) Thanks. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default launchers on panel
2011/2/26 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com I've installed Lubuntu for a couple of novice users recently and. among numerous other questions, one that was asked, and has been asked by windows users as well, is what use is 'minimise all windows '. I have no idea as I always remove it. This brought me to the question of what launchers should be there. The most common ones that people place on the panel are web browser and mail client, this appears true for any OS that uses a similar system. The next most popular one is a file manager then word processor. After showing a few people the Directory Menu they seem to prefer it to going direct to PCManFM, I know I do. So my suggestion is, we have Directory Menu, Chromium and Sylpheed as the default launchers on the panel. RFC -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) I'm agree with Yorvik in most cases, but instead of removing the minimize all windows button, improve it: minimize AND resize all windows, just like in XP and Ubuntu. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu
That's because it fits with the blue panel. It's no intended to match light themes (almost grey / white, like Elementary). Anyway I have another one (I did it testing other colour combinations). I send to you, and use it if it matches better. -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.pngattachment: ozone_menu_light.pngattachment: ozone_menu_light.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu
The ozone light option works much better for me. I am using the ozone panel too by the way. thanks Rafael. From: rafaellag...@gmail.com To: jpx...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:25:39 +0100 CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu That's because it fits with the blue panel. It's no intended to match light themes (almost grey / white, like Elementary). Anyway I have another one (I did it testing other colour combinations). I send to you, and use it if it matches better. -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.pngattachment: ozone_menu_light.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on
On 02/25/2011 06:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. The subject of this thread is CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on, so, as far as I know, this thread is about 11.04, not about 10.04. That decision taken is *not* to create i586-compatible binary .debs for everything in 11.04, but just to do some continuing 10.04 support, basically. PYROcomp seems to want to go ahead and try to create them all for 11.04 anyway, because he is very devoted to the i586 ... I was pointing out how much work that would be :) stuff will need 'back-porting' but it is not an insurmountable task. Backporting a few Lubuntu-specific packages to 10.04, sure, that's some work, but is not huge. In contrast, recompiling all of 11.04... would be a different matter altogether, which is what I thought I said, and what I think PYROcomp was suggesting. The kernel is also supported as an LTS, so we have pleantly of time :) Dropping this onto such a small team as Lubuntu is was not 'pleasant', but everyone commited immediatetly to support the i585 series as an LTS, even though 10.04 was a 'stable beta'. Yes, but again: (1) continuing support for (and backporting a few things to) 10.04, and (2) doing full i586 builds and tests of every package in 11.04 are two *very* different things, and have very different project resource requirements. PYROcomp appears to want his team to attempt (2), the latter, much bigger, project -- hence my comments. Apologies if I was unclear, or if I misunderstood what PYROcomp was proposing. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone theme
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:34:12 +0100 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Ozone has been updated. Changelog: now root windows work fine removed unnecesary dependencies removed include files reduced code size removed extra evolution widgets (more lxde specific) Have a try and let me know how it works in your systems. I haven't noticed speed increasing, but now everything is more... soft and loads quickly. And as there's no recursive search for nautilus files, root windows has not that annoying delay. Download the package here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty/Ozone Cheers! A rather odd problem occurs with this version. I have the Directory Menu launcher on my panel and when I click it the menu drops down and the desktop locks up. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Finally understood what you mean: Those packages affect every libnotify action! And i must say they get way nicer... wich process should i check to see if it's heavier than before?? 2011/2/25 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Sorry, i think i'm missing something (english problems), but Pidgin doesn't manage notifications without this plugin installed, so can i compare them? -- jpxsat -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and see if anyone has the ability to test this or not. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
2011/2/27 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and see if anyone has the ability to test this or not. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Just tested Exaile, the CPU runs fine (17~25%), but it's a little more than Audacious (13~17%). But i can see crearly why is not an option for Lubuntu: it consumes 40mb Ram vs Audacious that consumes 17~18mb Ram Besides, for simplicity packages audacious are just 2... for exaile there are plenty of it (wich i don't know if it's a bad thing or not, but an app with just 2 packages seems simplier to me ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
On 27 February 2011 14:44, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/27 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and see if anyone has the ability to test this or not. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Just tested Exaile, the CPU runs fine (17~25%), but it's a little more than Audacious (13~17%). But i can see crearly why is not an option for Lubuntu: it consumes 40mb Ram vs Audacious that consumes 17~18mb Ram Besides, for simplicity packages audacious are just 2... for exaile there are plenty of it (wich i don't know if it's a bad thing or not, but an app with just 2 packages seems simplier to me ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Thanks for testing that, sorry it's not a real option but I've just found it reasonably good for large play lists so
[Lubuntu-desktop] Quoting style
I'll probably be called pedantic or old-fashioned for this, but: Could we all try to avoid quoting the *entire* email to which we are responding, please? This mailing list is archived at https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ and the archive is public. So anyone needing to read earlier messages in full can easily do so. All that is needed in a reply email is the attribution line (so we know who said the quoted material, and when they said it), and *just* enough quoted material to establish the context of your response. Rule of thumb: generally, no more than half the lines of your email should be quoted material. It really does save all your readers time if you trim down the stuff you quote. Scrolling down a few screens worth to see a one paragraph reply is bad -- for the sight-impaired, having a screen reader read out masses of quoted material before getting to the new material is worse. Thanks for at least considering this, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
