Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion of guvciew
Hi, On my laptop, guvcview uses more RAM than cheese but it costs less CPU when I record video: guvcview: RAM ~50MB, CPU ~10% cheese: RAM ~33MB, CPU ~25% All for 1 minute recording. But guvcview is great, everything works fine, my video is slow and jerky when I record with cheese. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng Blog: http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 26 February 2011 05:50, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, With the removal of cheese, we have nothing to test a webcam, especially on the live-cd. Someone proposed to include guvcview. It seems to be a good choice : quite simple and not too much dependencies. Did someone already test it ? I don't have a webcam, I'll be glad if someone have feedbacks about it :) Thanks. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: On 02/22/2011 11:55 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Incidentally, I hope to build my first more or less Lubuntu ISO from these two scripts, hands off except for entering a sudo password, before I go to bed tonight ... That worked. After that, I set up a and downloaded a local Ubuntu repository for natty (all 59GB of it), and arranged nightly automated updates to it, and then pointed debootstrap and apt at it during the ISO creation process, to reduce my ISO creation times -- I'm now down to 12 minutes, by cheating the number of language-pack-gnome-* I use... so maybe 15mins if I undo that English-centric shortcut! Today (tonight?) I got the md5sum issue fixed (no need to edit the m5dsum.txt file by hand at all now for boot.cat, and no hex checksum strings in the script to stuff into md5sums.txt, either!). The resulting i386 ISO works for me in qemu as a livecd using qemu -cdrom lubuntu-i386-20110227.iso The checksum test now passes, and and Try it without installing lets me do basic stuff ... minimal testing only, so far :) Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images (b) Document the script, and give it back to Julien for comment (c) Work on 64bit ISOs (will probably need work on livecd-rootfs image creation, current approach has i386-isms in it I think) (d) Work on alternate installer ISOs (e) Work on automatic daily/weekly ISO creation and publication (f) Relax, maybe? :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for virtualbox and vmware -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
Which audio player to use must be about as controversial as which OS. While I believe they should be 'heard and not seen', others require them to run their computer. Benchmarks alone are not going to find the best solution but can narrow the field down. As Lubuntu is intended as a low resource OS, we need to find players that use as little CPU/RAM as possible while still retaining reasonable functionality. Some of us have, in the past, run various inconclusive tests. Before Oscillating Ocelot, or what ever the release after Natty Narwhal is to be called, we develop a standard benchmark for everybody to use. Basically this would involve everybody using the same music to carry out the measurements and also reporting the hardware used. In the tests myself, and others, have carried out it has become apparent that some players cope better in low memory environments than others. Depending on the source and codecs used some players use far more resources than others. While one may be very frugal with mp3 it's resource use can rocket with ogg, and vice-versa. Some players cope very well with about a dozen albums but struggle when they have to cope with 10,000 tracks. So what we need is a standard set of tracks, in different formats and bit rates, for everybody to test with and a standardised set of tests and measurements so as to give a consistent set of results across different hardware. Thoughts. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)
On 02/27/2011 02:58 AM, UndiFineD wrote: 2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for virtualbox and vmware Interesting. This is the Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2 CD we are talking about, right? It works for me in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Windows 7 64bit at work, but not here at home on Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64, even though official Ubuntu natty ISOs work fine here. And someone else reported it not working for them in virtualbox. Maybe it is some configurable setting in virtualbox that breaks it? More testing needed. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
2011/2/27 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Basically this would involve everybody using the same music to carry out the measurements and also reporting the hardware used. Couldn't be more agree with you: a standard test to make the decision would be perfect to take a decision (and for everything should be this way) Yorvyk, let me know if you need a hand since i'm very interested on this. The decision about the files to play will be a funny thing i guess :) Also, i think that a huge load of files (10.000+) it's an excessive task for the machines that Lubuntu is made for... but not something unfeasible :) So, first propositions: - Check App dependencies - Check Kb used by the packages - It must be in the repos - Results should be taken from HTOP - CPU + RAM must be verified before, during and after the test - Tests must be made with the same files: an assortment of extensions bitrates This said, wich will be the version of Audacious in 11.04?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 11:00 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Which audio player to use must be about as controversial as which OS. While I believe they should be 'heard and not seen', others require them to run their computer. Benchmarks alone are not going to find the best solution but can narrow the field down. As Lubuntu is intended as a low resource OS, we need to find players that use as little CPU/RAM as possible while still retaining reasonable functionality. Some of us have, in the past, run various inconclusive tests. Before Oscillating Ocelot, or what ever the release after Natty Narwhal is to be called, we develop a standard benchmark for everybody to use. Basically this would involve everybody using the same music to carry out the measurements and also reporting the hardware used. In the tests myself, and others, have carried out it has become apparent that some players cope better in low memory environments than others. Depending on the source and codecs used some players use far more resources than others. While one may be very frugal with mp3 it's resource use can rocket with ogg, and vice-versa. Some players cope very well with about a dozen albums but struggle when they have to cope with 10,000 tracks. So what we need is a standard set of tracks, in different formats and bit rates, for everybody to test with and a standardised set of tests and measurements so as to give a consistent set of results across different hardware. Just a quick note, I'll *NOT* discuss again and again about the music player. The choice was done for 11.04, and I don't attempt to change this choice for futur version. This is really a waste of time. We will be able to discuss this for the 11.10, during the usual schedule. Outside this, don't expect any answer from me, or any changes for the choice. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 23:24 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Finally understood what you mean: Those packages affect every libnotify action! And i must say they get way nicer... wich process should i check to see if it's heavier than before?? Only pidgin I think, and all RAM consumption, just to be sure. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion of guvciew
I've bought a brand new Nvidia GeForce, which is supposed to have a better video support (even V4L), and that's the same, Cheese freezes, but GucView doesn't. But you must admit that Cheese' interface is easier than GucView's, attempting to imitate PhotoBooth for Mac. -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone theme
I'm afraid yes :D ...for the moment. Maybe you're right and those packages are outdated. I'm testing on Lubuntu Maverick and Natty, both on new AMD machines (sorry, I have no dinosaurs right now, they're fully extinct), and all themes are working as expected. -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.pngattachment: face-smile-big.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] trash support
Anybody has seen the trash support in OpenSuse? http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/09/12/lxde-lxdm-and-trash-support/ It's done with the Trash-CLI python script. http://code.google.com/p/trash-cli/ -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 17:38 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : There's no difference in with or wihtout it!! The system runs as perfect as before ;) Even better: those packages fix a little problem i did have with libnotify (when the balloon where drawed as a comic balloon, something became ugly and pixeled... now that is no more :) Ok, added. We will see if people complain or not about this :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:53 +, Chris Druif a écrit : Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB on disk. It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let yourself be heard if you do. Since nobody complained about this, I'll add it in the next update of the lubuntu-desktop package. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: On 02/27/2011 02:58 AM, UndiFineD wrote: 2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for virtualbox and vmware Interesting. This is the Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2 CD we are talking about, right? It works for me in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Windows 7 64bit at work, but not here at home on Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64, even though official Ubuntu natty ISOs work fine here. And someone else reported it not working for them in virtualbox. Maybe it is some configurable setting in virtualbox that breaks it? More testing needed. Thanks, Jonathan Confirmed. I just had installed VirtualBox 4.0 again, how did it ever uninstall I don't know. Then I downloaded Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2. Installed with a fair spec'd virtual machine. There were 2 small bugs during installation. * The menu panel was right in the middle of my screen. * The installation did not properly shutdown the machine. No installation breaker though. A screenshot of installed Lubuntu. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/desktop/Screenshot-11.png -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
