[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Inclusion of guvciew
Yooh! GuCharMap and GucView... Lubuntu becomes more and more complete! Without wasting space (like others). http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/ http://www.lubuntu.net/ b2.pngb1.pngb3.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso
Hello. Could You share it as a torrent file? There is linux tracker site (http://linuxtracker.org) for such a purpose. Thanks. P.S. I have 64Kb/s fom phill's site. On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:49:10 -0800 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso This is a very unofficial first attempt at publishing an Lubuntu ISO created in a fully automated way. It is, if anything, even more alpha than alpha2, because it was created by jmarsden and not by gilir. Use it at your own risk! On the plus side, it is more up to date than alpha2, and so includes gucharmap for those who want it, and a few other recent bugfixes and updates. Issues with this ISO that are not also issues in alpha2 are likely to be Jonathan's responsibility -- please do not bug Julien about them! The remarkable thing about this ISO is that it exists and at least somewhat works, *not* that it is bug-free or perfect or anything even close! Please only download it if you will test it. When it finishes uploading, it should become available at: http://phillw.net/lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso Please report all issues/bug/ideas related to using it to its creator, jmarsden, on irc.freenode.net in #lubuntu (or #lubuntu-offtopic if that is where you find him). Email to the mailing list at lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net is also fine, but please be very sure to mention in your email that you are using the lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso created by jmarsden. Please do not file bugs in Launchpad for issues that are only seen in this ISO. This is not an official Lubuntu release :) It is planned to create and publish Lubuntu ISOs like this weekly from now until the final 11.04 release, so everyone can test with a recent codebase. Thanks, Jonathan Marsden - KNOWN ISSUES: * A build including all language-pack-gnome-* packages resulted in an 833 MByte ISO, so this one only has the de,en,es,fr,nl ones. Whether Lubuntu needs the language-pack-gnome-* packages needs discussing with Julien. * On some people's machines, this ISO does not boot in virtualbox. Why, and why it is inconsistent across different machines, needs further work to discover. - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1rU20ACgkQUGfT4+mKBLKGdwCfQzazBf3HWerPCQUT6LPqzkHR NI0An1mWuLllG+T/zyzBx3EXFvvUcXPX =56OE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap
Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon on there, where something more important should be. -- Yorvyk attachment: lxkeymap.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk: Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon on there, where something more important should be. Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. ( /usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png ) I think Julien you missed it from the deb package. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 15:56:37 schrieb Leszek Lesner: Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk: Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon on there, where something more important should be. Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. ( /usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png ) I think Julien you missed it from the deb package. I meant LXKeymap Banner of course ;) Btw. I used the old banner background from 10.10. (the same background thats used in the logout logo). We should change that to the new theme if the theme final ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 16:01:13 schrieb Leszek Lesner: Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 15:56:37 schrieb Leszek Lesner: Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk: Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon on there, where something more important should be. Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. ( /usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png ) I think Julien you missed it from the deb package. Sorry again. I doublechecked launchpad and bazaar. It seems I missed to commit the banner.png banner.xcf source file. I uploaded them a few seconds ago. So basically my mistake :P ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-detailsid=44e3078edc3d946dc25696bfd84212259b5ebe01 On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:19:58 -0800 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 01:05 AM, Michał Ćwikliński wrote: Could You share it as a torrent file? There is linux tracker site (http://linuxtracker.org) for such a purpose. Good idea. I'll look into that tonight (08:15am here now, I need to leave for work soon). I am so old, I do not do much at all with torrents, although I do understand the principle used by the bittorrent protocols! P.S. I have 64Kb/s fom phill's site. That's pretty slow; I'll see about setting up an alternate download site on one of our work servers later on, if that will help. Thanks for your interest in this! Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1ryycACgkQUGfT4+mKBLLm6gCcDImZNXIgfCcs1gRfXVZgrsH0 bU4Anjt7qh8e3vaYO/t38pL0RpeunFT8 =+1Pq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 23:49 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso Thanks a lot for your work on this :) I'll test it ASAP. * A build including all language-pack-gnome-* packages resulted in an 833 MByte ISO, so this one only has the de,en,es,fr,nl ones. Whether Lubuntu needs the language-pack-gnome-* packages needs discussing with Julien. As expected, sadly :( We need the gnome packs for some GNOME programs (file-roller, gnome-power-manager etc ...). We need now to be carefull when we add something by default. Or, we need to discuss which languages we can add to the CD. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )
Julien, On 28 Feb 2011 19:24:20 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 23:49 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : * A build including all language-pack-gnome-* packages resulted in an 833 MByte ISO, so this one only has the de,en,es,fr,nl ones. Whether Lubuntu needs the language-pack-gnome-* packages needs discussing with Julien. As expected, sadly :( We need the gnome packs for some GNOME programs (file-roller, gnome-power-manager etc ...). We need now to be carefull when we add something by default. Or, we need to discuss which languages we can add to the CD. OK. Being positive, at least this means I did not make some weird mistake that added 100+MB of unwanted junk to the ISOs I am creating :) I take it the maximum ISO image size we are aiming for is 700MB, i.e. 700 * 1024 * 1024 = 734003200 bytes? If so, then the current Lubuntu default package set for Natty is a LOT oversize (132.2MBytes oversize!), if we use all the GNOME language packs. Does this mean Lubuntu needs to go on a crash diet and lose a bunch of packages?? Speaking of which... how did the Lubuntu team decide on the long list of languages in the HOWTO that adds language-pack-?? for many languages? Should this add all languages for which packs exist, or is there some subset list of languages that Lubuntu supports somewhere? I think (need to verify) that the Ubuntu LiveCD does not include all of the language packs, but instead, it downloads the one for the chosen default language as part of the install process... could or should Lubuntu do the same? Thanks, Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 21:34:16 schrieb Jonathan Marsden: ... I take it the maximum ISO image size we are aiming for is 700MB, i.e. 700 * 1024 * 1024 = 734003200 bytes? If so, then the current Lubuntu default package set for Natty is a LOT oversize (132.2MBytes oversize!), if we use all the GNOME language packs. Does this mean Lubuntu needs to go on a crash diet and lose a bunch of packages?? Hmm... Lubuntu Natty will use 2.6.38 as kernel I think. This kernel introduces support for xz compressed (based upon lzma algorithm) squashfs images. So if we will use this compression for creating the filesystem.squashfs we could fit and even get way under the 700 MB barrier. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )
Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 12:34 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : Speaking of which... how did the Lubuntu team decide on the long list of languages in the HOWTO that adds language-pack-?? for many languages? Should this add all languages for which packs exist, or is there some subset list of languages that Lubuntu supports somewhere? We didn't have the problem until I realized we also need the gnome language packs. Until this, all languages packs was added because we had the space. I think (need to verify) that the Ubuntu LiveCD does not include all of the language packs, but instead, it downloads the one for the chosen default language as part of the install process... could or should Lubuntu do the same? Ubuntu have a very few numbers of language packs in CD. If you look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/view/head:/live There are 5 for amd64, 9 in i386. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )
Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 22:21 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit : Hmm... Lubuntu Natty will use 2.6.38 as kernel I think. This kernel introduces support for xz compressed (based upon lzma algorithm) squashfs images. So if we will use this compression for creating the filesystem.squashfs we could fit and even get way under the 700 MB barrier. But what about the speed when it's read/decompressed ? It could be a problem, especially on small configurations :/ Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding yelp - working help for Gnumeric
Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 12:36 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : Currently, yelp is missing from Lubuntu by default, which means help in gnumeric does not work, even though gnumeric-doc is installed. Do we have to add yelp (and its dependencies)? Or is there a better way? Bug #725292 (from Yorvyk) relates to this, and charlie-tca and I have been discussing it a bit in IRC. To me, working help in a major app like Gnumeric seems higher priority for Lubuntu than little extras like gucharmap... Is there some other (user-friendly) way to read the help files provided by gnumeric-doc, instead of yelp? As far as I understand the bug report, we only need to upload the change for gnumeric to depends on yelp, instead of Recommends. gnumeric-doc is already part of lubuntu-desktop, so the fix will affect directly Lubuntu installation. As gnumeric is in universe, we need someone to make the change, and I can sponsor it if it's needed. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone theme
Rafael: For the round corners of the logout box, what if i change the gtk theme?? It will stick with that color and won't match with my color scheme :S I think that those corners should be as always just for those who like to change colors from time to time... :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding yelp - working help for Gnumeric
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 04:21 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 12:36 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : Do we have to add yelp (and its dependencies)? Or is there a better way? Bug #725292 ... As far as I understand the bug report, we only need to upload the change for gnumeric to depends on yelp, instead of Recommends. gnumeric-doc is already part of lubuntu-desktop, so the fix will affect directly Lubuntu installation. As gnumeric is in universe, we need someone to make the change, and I can sponsor it if it's needed. OK! I think charlie-tca said he had tried to get gnumeric to depend on yelp before, and he got ... overruled. So maybe we should add the Depends: yelp into the gnumeric-doc binary package, rather than into the gnumeric package. If you think that will work, and will be accepted, then I can easily make a debdiff and attach it to the bug report (or use bzr if gnumeric uses bzr). It's a one-line change to debian/control either way, plus a debian/changelog entry :) Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1sY5QACgkQUGfT4+mKBLJAHgCfcKcKFTkgkI5yMTo19Qdn11Hf mOUAn3nBvzGqOjvUcWrVffGTRN/UYq+y =bNKc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 04:13 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Ubuntu have a very few numbers of language packs in CD. If you look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/view/head:/live There are 5 for amd64, 9 in i386. Great! Then I recommend that Lubuntu does this the Ubuntu way for the gnome packs; we can (for now) keep all the language-pack-?? ones in, but by default create Lubuntu LiveCD ISOs that only include language-pack-gnome-?? for: en fr es xh pt de bn zh-hans That's only 8, not 9, but that is what I see in the seed :) The ship seed has a few more hi ar ru ja which I would guess are high priority languages if we do have space for their gnome packs. Speaking of using seeds... at some point I/we should change Lubuntu LiveCD generation to be done using seeds and germinate... right? Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1sbVIACgkQUGfT4+mKBLIQ0gCfQLHy3jq7ys7UUfbUqkalUQKg OB8An2C4NeWmx4Y0sKx688Jx9vWY4vzM =gZRY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Virtualbox and lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 08:17 PM, Zoltan Matlak wrote: In VirtualBox with this image I have the same problem as with Julien's image, it does not start at boot. Great, thanks for testing and for reporting this. I want to narrow this issue down further. For me, it boots fine in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Win7 64bit (at work). For me here at home, earlier I *thought* it would not boot in virtualbox 4.0.4 under Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64 ... but then I found a workaround: If I set that VM to NOT use hardware virtualization, and to NOT use PAE, and I set the chipset to PIIX3 and enable the IO APIC, *then* I can get these images (Julien's and mine) to boot. Please let us know what host OS and what exact version of virtualbox you are using. Then try the settings I mentioned for your Lubuntu VM, and see if they help. Thanks, Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1sdM8ACgkQUGfT4+mKBLJ/4QCfRJY3K6Jf2CisR1FpeKCqVYFj OH4An1RWH/Q4vAHDJVwrpvJcj9aSnwcz =CAOC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Virtualbox and lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso
Thanks Jonathan, I followed your settings and it booted. I use OSX 10.5 and VB 4.0.4. In VB went to Settings - System - Motherboard: chipset to PIIX3 is the default (left it that way), l set/checked the Enable IO APIC checkbox as you suggested (it was unckecked by default), then under System - Processor the Enable PAE was unchecked (left it that way), then under System - Acceleration unchecked the Enable VT-x/AMD-V (it was checked by default). Thanks Zoltan On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 08:17 PM, Zoltan Matlak wrote: In VirtualBox with this image I have the same problem as with Julien's image, it does not start at boot. Great, thanks for testing and for reporting this. I want to narrow this issue down further. For me, it boots fine in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Win7 64bit (at work). For me here at home, earlier I *thought* it would not boot in virtualbox 4.0.4 under Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64 ... but then I found a workaround: If I set that VM to NOT use hardware virtualization, and to NOT use PAE, and I set the chipset to PIIX3 and enable the IO APIC, *then* I can get these images (Julien's and mine) to boot. Please let us know what host OS and what exact version of virtualbox you are using. Then try the settings I mentioned for your Lubuntu VM, and see if they help. Thanks, Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1sdM8ACgkQUGfT4+mKBLJ/4QCfRJY3K6Jf2CisR1FpeKCqVYFj OH4An1RWH/Q4vAHDJVwrpvJcj9aSnwcz =CAOC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
