Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-16 Thread Andrea Florio
2011/8/15 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com:
 On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:20:30 +0200
 Andrea Florio and...@opensuse.org wrote:

 Actually only those packages doesn't build with gtk3:

 gpicview libfm pcmanfm lxmusic lxpanel
 I made some local changes on gpicview, it should build with GTK3, but it's 
 still not working (segfault on loading image). I'll commit it to trunk when 
 I'll be back home.


That's good, thanks

 For lxmusic, somebody needs to do the work, as Lubuntu doesn't use lxmucic, 
 we don't plan to work on it.


Seriously? why don't contribute the the entire project? i guess that
sentences like this one are making you loose some users.. that's a
piece of an email i received recently from a former lubuntu user:

I got fed up with that Ubuntu way of treading on everything and
looking only to its own interests that the Lubuntu developer started
to show after his distribution received support from Canonical

and also

I was referring to the way Julien Lavergne started uploading broken
code to the git repo and then just ignored the fixes.

I believed we were working on a common project that is LXDE, and them,
just customizing it to make it fit our distro specific needs.. but any
way, that's not the place for such an argument.


 Andrea, do you try to use GTK3 components on openSUSE ? For me, I had some 
 improvements on CPU usage using lxtask GTK3, vs the GTK2 version. I wonder if 
 you saw similar behavior on openSUSE ?


well, i actually tested it to check if there was any crash or issues,
but i didn't pay much attention on that. I can try to give it a deeper
look next time. What i actually saw, is that seems all gtk3
applications doesn't get a gtk3 theme, but maybe is just my
installation.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-16 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
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On 2011-08-15 15:50, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 I made some local changes on gpicview, it should build with GTK3, but it's 
 still not working (segfault on loading image). I'll commit it to trunk when 
 I'll be back home.

I hope I misread you now but if not I want to make it clear.

Do /NOT/ commit things that are not complete/do not work in the master
branch. Not even if it require a --enable-gtk-3 or whatever for configure.

We use git and have cheap branches, there are no reason at all to not
use them. When done hacking and it works as intended use the rebase
approach and get it into master.

If someone need assistance with working with please ask and I (or
whoever) will help you to master the repo.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-16 Thread Andrea Florio
2011/8/16 Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.se:
 On 2011-08-15 15:50, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 I made some local changes on gpicview, it should build with GTK3, but it's 
 still not working (segfault on loading image). I'll commit it to trunk when 
 I'll be back home.

 I hope I misread you now but if not I want to make it clear.

 Do /NOT/ commit things that are not complete/do not work in the master
 branch. Not even if it require a --enable-gtk-3 or whatever for configure.

I agree, but at today, gpicview fail to build with --enable-gtk3, so
if those changes solve the build failure, than i believe is mostly
welcome.

Regards
Andrea

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-16 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Tuesday 16 August 2011 à 11:02 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
 Seriously? why don't contribute the the entire project? 
Because we have others priorities. Firstly, finishing transition that
are in progress and unfinished (ex: gpicview). It's just a note, we have
nobody planning to work on this. So, if someone want to try, he is free
to go. Just don't wait for a short term solution from us.


 i guess that
 sentences like this one are making you loose some users.. that's a
 piece of an email i received recently from a former lubuntu user:
 
 I got fed up with that Ubuntu way of treading on everything and
 looking only to its own interests that the Lubuntu developer started
 to show after his distribution received support from Canonical
Just to make it clear for everyone. All people working directly on
Lubuntu are doing it for free, during their free time. Having support
from Canonical doesn't mean we have money or ressources, except building
ISO for Ubuntu build system. We working on some parts because we prefer
to work on them, that's it.

 
 and also
 
 I was referring to the way Julien Lavergne started uploading broken
 code to the git repo and then just ignored the fixes.
Yes, I broke some trunk repo sometimes, and I'm sorry about it.
Probably, it was not the good way to do thing. But when you are waiting
6 months or more for review of patches from Lubuntu, posting them on the
bugtracker, committed them to a separate branch, and nobody care about
them ... so yes, committed them to trunk was the only way to have
feedbacks.

 I believed we were working on a common project that is LXDE, and them,
 just customizing it to make it fit our distro specific needs.. but any
 way, that's not the place for such an argument.
Agree, that's why I try to commit every improvement / fixes done in
Lubuntu to LXDE directly. I don't want to maintain patches in Lubuntu
when it's not strictly necessary.


  Andrea, do you try to use GTK3 components on openSUSE ? For me, I
 had some improvements on CPU usage using lxtask GTK3, vs the GTK2
 version. I wonder if you saw similar behavior on openSUSE ?
 
 
 well, i actually tested it to check if there was any crash or issues,
 but i didn't pay much attention on that. I can try to give it a deeper
 look next time. What i actually saw, is that seems all gtk3
 applications doesn't get a gtk3 theme, but maybe is just my
 installation. 

Ok thanks, don't hesitate to share good (or bad) surprises.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-16 Thread Andrea Florio
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lxtask gtk2
rss 18.1 dim.vm 265,0 mb

lxtask gtk3
rss 15,3 dim.vm 198.5 mb

those are the only differences i noted for the 2 version of the same
program (lxtask) running on the same machine.

Regards
Andrea

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Welcome

2011-08-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Max,

it was a pleasure to help someone who wishes to help. Those who have known
me for any time will also know that it is something I encourage. You do have
a little list of things to get done, but I know that everyone on the team
will welcome a new volunteer to assist. Next task, get a wiki page up to
tell us all a bit about you and the areas you are interested in.

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Max Polk maxp...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, I was gelph on IRC.  I'm Max Polk in real life.
 https://launchpad.net/~maxpolk

 Thanks for the friendly welcome on #lubuntu-offtopic.  I needed a bit of
 help getting going on my very first distro volunteer, and you got me
 everything I needed.

 Wish me luck!
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Is LXDM supported to work in a *buntu besides Lubuntu?

2011-08-16 Thread Steven
Hi all,

I'm triaging an LXDM bug [1] where LXDM doesn't work as the display manager
in Ubuntu (not Lubuntu). Is this even supported, or can I mark it as
Invalid?

-Steven

[1]: www.launchpad.net/bugs/823621
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Sound Editing Software

2011-08-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Hi.

In Lubuntu 10.04 i was able to run Audacity and Jokosher for record
guitar+voice. Today Lubuntu let me down with those two programs!! Can't
record a single sound with the microphone!! Am I the only one experiencing
this? (in mswin it works, so it's not a hardware problem / the programs used
to work in previous kernels so i doubt that it can be a driver problem since
my laptop is pretty old)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Sound Editing Software

2011-08-16 Thread Benny Hult
you have checked from alsamixer you dont have microphone muted or on low
level settings?

17.8.2011 7.23 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com kirjoitti:

 Hi.

 In Lubuntu 10.04 i was able to run Audacity and Jokosher for record
guitar+voice. Today Lubuntu let me down with those two programs!! Can't
record a single sound with the microphone!! Am I the only one experiencing
this? (in mswin it works, so it's not a hardware problem / the programs used
to work in previous kernels so i doubt that it can be a driver problem since
my laptop is pretty old)

 --
 jpxsat

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