Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Calling for a Team-Work :)
Hello my friend and mentor and hope you don't mind to have a young crazy brother :P I think I should have been clear from beginning so there you go :) I'm NOT planning to CHANGE any current scheme or system whatsoever. Why? because, as you wrote, Roma wasn't built in one day. I just want to focus on something that will give us another plus. Users are sometime complaining why there is no sub-forum for lubuntu? why the support is so slow? etc etc. You know these stuff, I'm sure :) It's not that I want to prove to them how good we are; our actions speak louder than our words but I just want our team, Lubuntu Team (family) to be very much capable in everything and one thing specific: being fast. I know what you'll say about that :D I have no huge plan, it's a basic one. I'm currently working on: https://www.facebook.com/pages/LXDE/21251244425 https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428 http://forum.lxde.org/ and of course http://ubuntuforums.org I have made some friends over Ubuntu Forum (I'm so fast in that by the way :P) and I have asked them to team up with me and they agreed but as you know, life issues could make everyone busy and away from Linux and I totally understand that. Having that said, I thought to find more people to pop up more on the above 4 websites/pages and support the users. That is preciously why I have requested to be an admin on Lubuntu and LXDE FB Pages because for me, as a user, I'd love to see someone from the team is interacting and posting, etc. That will add more confident to them. I already started some topics on LXDE Forum which is all about Lubuntu. Two Guides so far, nothing much but also not bad :) Two feedback topics and willing to do more. I'm SO MUCH happy with what I'm doing and because I'm just a member of this family, I'd like to share my happiness with ALL of you. Again, no big plans at the moment. I'm aware of the tags and prefix. I use that when I do my search. I'm doing my best to reply Lubuntu Threads on UF as much as possible. I also see some other people who are not in our team but interested in Lubuntu and they are helping too. *Bottom Line: *All what I'm asking for is: Let's focus our work and be more organized and that will be done via some teams or even one team. For example: It's 4am in my time and 3 threads are pending. I could send a message to someone in the team who is online and he/she can pop up and help. Phill, I'll definitely follow your instructions and advice and that's why I'll log off now and go to eat :D Thank you so much for everything ... I'm so much happy here and I'll be around for a very long time hopefully :) Who would give you hard time except me? :P On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi my young friend, the system we have on the main ubuntu was granted to us (the tags) long, long before we became official. I'm not too sure what you have in mind but I prefer to use the main forum area with the ability to add and search tags as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#How_to_help Lubuntu had some good friends even back then, we asked people to allow Lubuntu to avoid the 'chicken and egg' syndrome. I know and I'm sure the others do, we were shown every courtesy and assistance. Things that should only be done for 'official' variants were done for Lubuntu. I'll give you the instruction one of my trainers gave me. Do NOT burn out, you are no use to us if you burn out and leave. Rome was not built in a day Lubuntu has done very well from starting at about 9.04 to full acceptance at 11.10. Take your time, but do ensure you eat and sleep! Phill. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, A friend and a mentor to me has advised me many times now to slow down and take care but ... Linux is the cure for my issues so ... enough drama, let's rock :) One last email and I'm off. I did watch a movie for a change today though :P Guys and girls, long story short. I was and still very active on Ubuntu Forum. Now, Lubuntu became Official (YES!) and I'm sure more new threads whether on Ubuntu Forum OR LXDE Forum (where I'm a moderator there) will be created. I'm very much able to handle all that but I do confess and admit that I don't know anything yet. My request is simple. I need some people who already have an account on Ubuntu Forum to team up with me. I'm planning for something. I'll hold it for now. I need to know who is IN. I don't mind to be alone on this but you guys are my family and I hate to do things alone, I do love team work. I told that to 4 new friends on IRC recently. I'm on Google, and you have other links on my signature. Whatever way you want to use to contact me, just do it. I'll be waiting for your reply for a week. Take your time :) Why is all that? it's because the more support users will find, the better and the faster to fix any issue. I love you all ...
[Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
Hello everyone, today I came up with something.I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something Lubuntu branded, which is a shame.We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox joining if we come up with a catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser for a reason, I guess. :P Thoughts? :P -Glenn de Groot ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
Hello Glenn, I think that would be easier if Lubuntu is not yet an official variant of Ubuntu. Now, it's an official variant, I think (NOT sure) we need to be as close as possible to Canonical's Approaches and style but perhaps I'm wrong :) IMHO, what could be much better is having our own applications. I mean, LXDE Applications. Instead of using GNOME or XFCE Power Management, we develop our own application. Instead of using GNOME-Player, we create our own, etc. As for other developers from other projects, I'm not that sure they will involve themselves. As far as I know, everyone is busy with his/her own project. I'm trying to find some free time to come up with new ideas for LXDE but not at the moment, I'm busy with too many things. Thanks and keep it up :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, today I came up with something. I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something Lubuntu branded, which is a shame. We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox joining if we come up with a catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser for a reason, I guess. :P Thoughts? :P -Glenn de Groot ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
Something to keep in mind is that it's not just Lubuntu, it's LXDE - so anything that happens needs to also get approved at that level (for some things at least, not sure about all of them). Cheers, James Gifford On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Glenn, I think that would be easier if Lubuntu is not yet an official variant of Ubuntu. Now, it's an official variant, I think (NOT sure) we need to be as close as possible to Canonical's Approaches and style but perhaps I'm wrong :) IMHO, what could be much better is having our own applications. I mean, LXDE Applications. Instead of using GNOME or XFCE Power Management, we develop our own application. Instead of using GNOME-Player, we create our own, etc. As for other developers from other projects, I'm not that sure they will involve themselves. As far as I know, everyone is busy with his/her own project. I'm trying to find some free time to come up with new ideas for LXDE but not at the moment, I'm busy with too many things. Thanks and keep it up :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, today I came up with something. I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something Lubuntu branded, which is a shame. We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox joining if we come up with a catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser for a reason, I guess. :P Thoughts? :P -Glenn de Groot ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Build #2856613] i386 build of lubuntu-software-center 0.0.1~bzr80+201110171609~natty1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE (lubuntu-desktop PPA)
* Source Package: lubuntu-software-center * Version: 0.0.1~bzr80+201110171609~natty1 * Architecture: i386 * Archive: lubuntu-desktop PPA * Component: main * State: Failed to build * Duration: 7 minutes * Build Log: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/2856613/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.lubuntu-software-center_0.0.1%7Ebzr80%2B201110171609%7Enatty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz * Builder: https://launchpad.net/builders/aluminium * Source: not available If you want further information about this situation, feel free to contact a member of the Launchpad Buildd Administrators team. -- i386 build of lubuntu-software-center 0.0.1~bzr80+201110171609~natty1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/2856613 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
Let's just KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) guys :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: Why not make the same software with 2 names?? Lubuntu Software Center and LXDE Software Center. Mozilla made this... Firefox and Abrowser.. Then everybody will be happy =] Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
A more ambiguous name will make it more adaptable for others. Something like Lightweight Software Center is indicative of it's nature without tying it unnecessarily to Lubuntu or LXDE for that matter. But that is just my 2c. With metta, Chris On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 22:31, ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a dev, but this sounds like a good idea and it embraces the spirit of open source programming. Tim -- Sent from my HP TouchPad ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04
Hi, We just released 11.10, but it also means that 12.04 development started. It will be the first development cycle after adoption of Lubuntu in Ubuntu family, which come with some consequences. Firstly, we will have the same schedule than Ubuntu : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule. Secondly, we can use UDS to discuss plans for 12.04, new features etc ... I would like to use this summit to decide our roadmap for the 12.04, and take decisions we usually took later in the cycle, like new applications by default, new features planned etc ... But, I still want to discuss the differents topics on the mailing before the UDS, to have input from everyones. For the record, UDS starts the 31 October, and finishes the 5 November. Personally, I have 3 topics in mind, and I started to write some notes about them on a wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/P-Plan 1. Optimizations : * Remove unnecessary depends (gconf, glade, other gnome old library ?) * Evaluate a first move to GTK3 (because there will be less maintenance / optimization on GTK2 now) * Optimize the theme 2. User experience : * Add missing features easy to implement and which make our users happy :) * Provide new shiny stuff (lubuntu-software-center, catfish ...) * Fix issues which are here since too much time (keymap switch, screensaver ...) 3. Team Organisation : * Find a way to organize and coordinate our work * Find a way to welcome new members / contributors Also, an important detail is that Ubuntu 12.04 will be an LTS version, but Lubuntu will NOT be an LTS. The main reason is because LTS needs support, update and security fixes for 3 years, which is not possible for Lubuntu team (too much work). However, it should not stop us to make 12.04 the better release Lubuntu ever :) If you have any other topics to mention, please speak now :) It's the perfect moment for asking and discussion. But please, open a new topic on the mailing list, with [12.04] in the title, so it will be easier to follow the discussions. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts
There are some people in Brazil asking me that too.. Gabriel Salles 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com Hello everybody, Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website. There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts, links or whatever)? Thank you! Best regs, Ivan aka vanyok ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04
I don't know if here is the best place to say this, but once (first of september of this year) I send an e-mail to Christian (the creator of Midori and Catfish) sending him a translation to Catfish, and he answered me this: Hey Gabriel, I'm sorry to say Catfish is not being actively developed, and until somebody volunteers to do that there won't be any translation additions either. ciao, Christian So maybe is better if we decide to use another file searcher Best regards, Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] YEAH!
Le 10/15/2011 12:06 PM, Ali Linx a écrit : http://i56.tinypic.com/zmcxsy.jpg Usually behaviour after a release or big announcement. We are currently #5, and I think our best rank is #3 :) Still, it's not something to take too seriously ... but still nice :p Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] YEAH!
Nothing too seriously for sure but couldn't agree more about it's NICE :D Not too far from #4 and who knows? maybe we'll reach better :) On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 10/15/2011 12:06 PM, Ali Linx a écrit : http://i56.tinypic.com/zmcxsy.jpg Usually behaviour after a release or big announcement. We are currently #5, and I think our best rank is #3 :) Still, it's not something to take too seriously ... but still nice :p Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts
Hi Mario, Were you hosting these directly on lubuntu.net or were they just pointers to a different area (I think it was the latter), if it is the former then I can pop them on my server whilst the new hosting system is brought on-line and update the help area of our wiki. If the latter then I can get the wiki updated pretty quickly. In both cases I need to get the topics links. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: There are some people in Brazil asking me that too.. Gabriel Salles 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com Hello everybody, Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website. There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts, links or whatever)? Thank you! Best regs, Ivan aka vanyok ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit : I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install directory, which are Ubuntu specific. When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things. Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
I didn't know the exact inner-workings of LSC, but with this explanation also a +1 from me. With metta, Chris On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 00:57, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit : I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install directory, which are Ubuntu specific. When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things. Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04
That's OK. PCManFM will support basic file search later and some work has been done during last GSoC session, but first I have to fix some old bugs. The good news is, I passed my license examination yesterday. So I can have more free time now. The bad one is, I have an important presentation this week. So I may get some time to fix the broken LXDE apps and adopt some patches since next week. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know if here is the best place to say this, but once (first of september of this year) I send an e-mail to Christian (the creator of Midori and Catfish) sending him a translation to Catfish, and he answered me this: Hey Gabriel, I'm sorry to say Catfish is not being actively developed, and until somebody volunteers to do that there won't be any translation additions either. ciao, Christian So maybe is better if we decide to use another file searcher Best regards, Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] About future development, the use of dbus and C++
Hi everyone on this list, I just passed my license exam yesterday. So that means I will have a little more free time from now on. I, however, still have an important presentation this week and I have to prepare for it. Since next week, I guess I'll have some time for LXDE development. It's time to fix some old bugs and adopt some patches. I'm now thinking about future development. Since dbus support is now part of glib and nowadays dbus is widely adopted, maybe it's time to replace our own hand-made IPC with dbus and make use of dbus more in LXDE. It's possible to use dbus inside menu-cache and in the session manager. PCManFM might also use it for IPC and to provide some interfaces to other applications. The second issue is the use of C++ in LXDE. Currently we mainly use C and in the future there might be vala. Doing programming in pure C is quite inefficient and error-prone on memory management sometimes. In C++, things can be better encapsulated if it's used carefully. There also exists some very high quality libraries, such as boost and some tools provided by google. Using C++ inside LXDE only introduces one additional runtime lib, libstdc++6.so. So actually I'm considering the possibility of using C++ in PCManFM. Implement some new features with C++ will be much easier than doing it with pure C. With C++, the development can be more rapid and we can utilize many nice existing libs. Later, I'll try to use C++ inside PCManFM is feasible and will do some experiments in git branches. Of course, the program should be kept as fast as old versions and memory usage cannot significantly increase. Otherwise, I won't use it. Cheers! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp