Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
On 12/06/2011 12:52 AM, Amber Graner wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative). These are other distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project. I think it's much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and Ubuntu Server. I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word is derivative correct. Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or others to change this. Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as well as let you all know what we (the news were doing). Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't help with encouragement, inclusion and good will. It's like you are beating up the messenger. We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to call them. We were asking for your help and instead you complain about the word. Seriously? Because I find the term offensive. I bring it up whenever I see it used. I even said that I recognized he was only using a term others use. Why should I not bring it up? You're right you have the right to your opinion; however, its the tone of your email (just like this one) that comes across has hostile and confrontational. I apologize if misunderstood. It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion. If you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know? Yes, but we don't make the names up, as you know. So there is no sense hashing that out here. :-) However, because you brought it up I will forward your issues onto Kate Stewart. Thanks for bringing to our attention. I am hostile to the term as applied to Ubuntu flavors developed within the Ubuntu project. I'm not hostile to any of the people involved in the discussion. I'm sorry I communicated it in a way that felt hostile to people. Scott K ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative). These are other distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project. I think it's much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and Ubuntu Server. I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word is derivative correct. Scott K On 12/05/2011 09:35 PM, Chris wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about the new section on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. It's a section devoted to the development of the official derivatives of Ubuntu. For this we'd like to receive every week that you have a meeting, a link to the summary of the meeting. This is all to more acknowledgement of the hard work everyone in the derivatives branches are doing. If there are any questions, please ask them here or on #ubuntu-news. akgraner and me (MrChrisDruif) should be around to answer your questions. With metta, Chris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
Through New as well and in the archive. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a direct subscriber. Status in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “pam” package in Debian: Invalid Bug description: I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop and this should get uploaded to revu later today. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
I don't see it as a blocker. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a direct subscriber. Status in Ubuntu: New Status in “pam” package in Debian: Invalid Bug description: I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop and this should get uploaded to revu later today. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
In principle adding a metapackage is not a big deal. Do you expect ISO images for lubuntu to be built on Launchpad? Do you have a governance process for deciding what should be in the package? -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a direct subscriber. Status in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop and this should get uploaded to revu later today. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
Additionally, the seeds are currently controlled by an open team with 118 members. I do not see this as a recipe for success. -- [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a direct subscriber. Status in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop and this should get uploaded to revu later today. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
