Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
 A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager.
 
 Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA
 Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default.  Should they be?
 Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default,  Should
 they be?
 In Other Software:
 The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though.
 Security.ubuntu.com is listed.  Shouldn't this be part of the default
 repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. 

Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ?

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
  A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager.
  
  Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA
  Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default.  Should they be?
  Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default,  Should
  they be?
  In Other Software:
  The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though.
  Security.ubuntu.com is listed.  Shouldn't this be part of the default
  repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. 
 
 Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ?
 
Neither.
I used the upgrade to 11.04 option on an old installation of dubious quality.  
I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new clean 
installation.  I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can tell 
which one I'm using.  Sorry for the false alarm.  I'll have a go with the 
upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this still 
happens.

All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK.  Although 
I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux install.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
  A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager.
  
  Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA
  Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default.  Should they be?
  Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default,  Should
  they be?
  In Other Software:
  The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though.
  Security.ubuntu.com is listed.  Shouldn't this be part of the default
  repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. 
 
 Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ?
 
Neither.
I used the upgrade to 11.04 option to upgrade an old installation of dubious 
quality.  I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new 
clean installation.  I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can 
tell which one I'm using.  Sorry for the false alarm.  I'll have a go with the 
upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this still 
happens.

All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK.  Although 
I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux install. 

The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with all 3 
installs I've done.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:06:24 +
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
   A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager.
   
   Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA
   Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default.  Should they be?
   Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default,  Should
   they be?
   In Other Software:
   The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though.
   Security.ubuntu.com is listed.  Shouldn't this be part of the default
   repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. 
  
  Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ?
  
 Neither.
 I used the upgrade to 11.04 option to upgrade an old installation of dubious 
 quality.  I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new 
 clean installation.  I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can 
 tell which one I'm using.  Sorry for the false alarm.  I'll have a go with 
 the upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this 
 still happens.
 
 All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK.  
 Although I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux 
 install. 
 

Ignore this line
 The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with all 3 
 installs I've done.

I was supposed to be asking if the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA should be installed by 
default or are do we now have everything in the Ubuntu Repos.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 03/06/2011 06:18 AM, Yorvyk wrote:

 The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with
 all 3 installs I've done.

 I was supposed to be asking if the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA should be
 installed by default or are do we now have everything in the Ubuntu
 Repos.

I (consciously) created the ISO without any PPA-related entries in
sources.list, so as far as I can tell, we have everything in the Ubuntu
repos -- if you find something missing from the Alpha 3 CD, *please* let
me know what it is!

As Lubuntu moves (slowly!) towards full official acceptance into the
Ubuntu family, it is vital that we doing things in the Ubuntu way and
to Ubuntu standards as much as we possibly can.  Other Ubuntu flavours
do not use PPAs by default, and Lubuntu should not do that either.

We *do* currently have lubuntu-meta (and so lubuntu-desktop) in the
*wrong* repo, it should be in universe not multiverse, but that is a
separate issue, see Launchpad bug #675169 for that.  I would strongly
prefer that we can build ISOs without multiverse being enabled, before
we release the real 11.04 version, since Lubuntu is supposed to be 100%
free software.

Jonathan

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-05 Thread Yorvyk
A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager.

Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA
Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default.  Should they be?
Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default,  Should they be?
In Other Software:
The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though.
Security.ubuntu.com is listed.  Shouldn't this be part of the default repos and 
not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates.


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