[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu

2011-02-26 Thread Yorvyk
Hi Dan,

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:10:41 +0100
From: Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com
To: lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver 
snafu


I've just discovered (after many painful hours of digging) that
update-notifier somehow causes dbus to run gnome-screensaver, which of
course competes with xscreensaver. I have no idea *how*
update-notifier does it, but removing update-notifier.desktop from
/etc/xdg/autostart solves the problem.

Now, I prefer not to make system-wide changes. Is there a way
(freedesktop, lxde, openbox or otherwise) to override autostart
entries, or dbus session services, or to ban gnome-screensaver (short
of apt-get remove)?

This brings a larger question -- can we rely on gnome-screensaver
never being started in a modern Linux distro? This is starting to look
like a losing battle. I prefer x* to gnome-* any day, given the
less-than-professional practices that surface so often in the Gnome
team, but I was *very* tempted to replace xscreensaver with
gnome-screensaver in /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart.

I am on Ubuntu Lucid (0.5.0-3ubuntu2, update-notifier  0.99.3), so
maybe this is all outdated. Even so I would like to file a bug in
launchpad, since this is an LTS release. Note that on Ubuntu,
non-admin users don't see the problem since for them update-notifier
doesn't start.

As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list 
lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another 
couple of years life left.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu

2011-02-26 Thread Dan Muresan
 As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list 
 lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another 
 couple of years life left.

I'll do that... though I'm not sure what component to file against.

Regardless, some of the points I made were not Lubuntu, but
LXDE-related, so I hope the list won't ignore my message? Even if
update-notifier can be fixed, who guarantees that some other component
in the future won't start gnome-screensaver and mess up xscreensaver?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu

2011-02-26 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:02:17 +0100
Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com wrote:

  As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list 
  lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another 
  couple of years life left.
 
 I'll do that... though I'm not sure what component to file against.
I'd file it against update-notifier initially and allow those with a bit more 
knowledge of these things to decide where the problem really lies.   Make sure 
you add the tag lubuntu to the bug report.

 
 Regardless, some of the points I made were not Lubuntu, but
 LXDE-related, so I hope the list won't ignore my message? Even if
 update-notifier can be fixed, who guarantees that some other component
 in the future won't start gnome-screensaver and mess up xscreensaver?
The dev team is quite small, so answers may be a bit slow but I doubt it will 
be ignored.  Sadly with software getting more and more complex I don't think 
anybody can make guarantees like that.


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