Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Hi Phill, Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 02:32 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later. There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section. Thanks for the summarize. If you can't do a per section divert, we will have to do per page divert. Am I right ? I think we need to move as soon as possible to the new section. Having 2 places for documentation is a bad situation. If you need help to modify each page, please list all the pages somewhere, so we can organize the move as soon as possible. I can spend some time to help on this if it's needed, I think it's important to finish it quickly. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Maybe a suggestion is to let the Wiki FG of UBT help with the move? On Jun 5, 2011 3:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Phill, Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 02:32 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later. There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section. Thanks for the summarize. If you can't do a per section divert, we will have to do per page divert. Am I right ? I think we need to move as soon as possible to the new section. Having 2 places for documentation is a bad situation. If you need help to modify each page, please list all the pages somewhere, so we can organize the move as soon as possible. I can spend some time to help on this if it's needed, I think it's important to finish it quickly. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Hiyas Chris, I have been in touch with UBT-Wiki already, they are agreeable to help. @ All : I have done a quick edit to tell the lubuntu header on the main https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu area to point Documentation Help over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation Even with the community area having been checked several times there are, no doubt, going to be a couple of missing / incorrect / dead links. An example being https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#Get Involved which pointed to non-existent pages on the community area. I felt that these should actually point 'back' to main wiki area, as they are more about the way Lubuntu works / is designed etc. than offering help and would ensure that there is no duplication. I've edited the page to send people to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved area. Please let me know via the mailing list if you find things wrong and do not feel comfortable in correcting them. Wiki editing is not frighteningly hard and we can role back to previous edits if all goes horribly wrong! Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a suggestion is to let the Wiki FG of UBT help with the move? On Jun 5, 2011 3:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Phill, Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 02:32 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later. There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section. Thanks for the summarize. If you can't do a per section divert, we will have to do per page divert. Am I right ? I think we need to move as soon as possible to the new section. Having 2 places for documentation is a bad situation. If you need help to modify each page, please list all the pages somewhere, so we can organize the move as soon as possible. I can spend some time to help on this if it's needed, I think it's important to finish it quickly. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Hi julien, As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later. There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section. The down side? Old Bookmarks will be invalid. The up side? We comply fully with best practices. There is a summer of wiki coming up, and I have been told that as a part of it, we can have eager volunteers crawl over every page and inform us / correct any missing links. One of the few perks of being a wiki admin person, if they need one for a task on any page / area I have agreed to help. As a wiki admin, I will ensure, and sworn to do, that there are backups held of any and every page deleted both locally on my computer and on my server (the one who holds the iso's). With all that is going on, and the recent push to check the 'new' area, I do feel that it is time to get this 'little' step done so that everyone knows which page(s) to update. @ everyone As per a wedding speak now, or forever hold your peace. The initial transfer done by Zach was amazing, now we just need to finish it off. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't that be scripted? If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic text string at the top of each page. So a bulk edit of all those pages should do it. What I am I forgetting? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
You are probably forgetting about direct redirect, not to the general area, when a duplicate page is on the new area. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 4, 2011 3:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't that be scripted? If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic text string at the top of each page. So a bulk edit of all those pages should do it. What I am I forgetting? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Some pages have been renamed, the structure - especially for GetLubuntu and TestLubuntu has really changed! The addition of FAQ etc. As with Dev, we either divert resources (which we do not have) to a wonderfully smooth Apple Mac type transition, or we just get on with it and make sure the bloody thing works... something that can be missed by these larger corporations ;) As for So a bulk edit of all those pages yeah, we have to find them 1st. Hence my asking that ALL pages under the old DocumentHelp get the divert. (Assuming this is possible, they've been updating the wiki systems). regards, Phill. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't that be scripted? If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic text string at the top of each page. So a bulk edit of all those pages should do it. What I am I forgetting? Jonathan -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
