Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
No comment on the first point but agee with the other two. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jun 19, 2011 7:37 AM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) lt;rafaellag...@gmail.comgt; wrote: +1 here Fully agree. 1. LXDM is working really well. LightDM is not polished. 2. XChat is used by those who are members of something (coders, collaborators, corporate...) not by normal people. 3. Leafpad is enough. Remember that many of us use even nano on a console, that is more basic (except for the keystrokes). -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to finalize the decisions for each component. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:35:23 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to finalize the decisions for each component. I've started 3 threads for those that wish to comment. Remember Lubuntu is supposed to be small and simple and run on impoverished machinery. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
This is about my reasoning also for proposed changes. I also think that LXDM this cycle makes sense, my concern would be that the other proposal involves LightDM with LXDM as a fall back. I'm concerned this may be an undue strain on our limited devs. That 12.04 is an LTS, we can be pretty confident that extra resources are going to be available from the whole Ubuntu dev people. I've said it before and will repeat, the release prior to an LTS is a 'stable beta', regardless of how it is called. If the Devs are confident that they CAN get LightDM up and running 100% for 11-10, then by all means go for it. That call is really up to the devs. X-chat I've nothing against it (regardless what people may think!). If we need disk space on the CD for language packs etc. then dropping X-Chat and relying on pidgin will, at least, give people the ability to access IRC. X-Chat is far superior on IRC, but when we are squeezed for space and low bandwidths etc? Crikey, i recall us discussing the alternate installation and GUI installation both being able to fit on one iso. For the leafpad Vs Gedit Vs Libre.. Again, I would ask for the smallest one in terms of disk space and CPU / RAM requirement. Those with quad core machines and 4GB+ of RAM can add on what they wish. This has always been a point I make to people considering Lubuntu. It is a 'lean, mean, keen and green' version - But it is no way a 'cut-down and crippled' version of the ubuntu family. Put onto it your favourite programmes (Full LAMP server and Bluefish etc. are some the additions I made). Regards, Phill. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On 06/16/2011 03:31 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM 2) Dropping Xchat 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. I'm available online for a meeting in the next ten hours or so; I'm mostly unavailable on Sundays. Please would someone let me known in #lubuntu-offtopic if a meeting starts happens in the next few hours :) I'd suggest just leaving all three of these alone this cycle, but I am not going to spend a lot of energy fighting changes if the majority feel otherwise. A quick summary of my reasoning: (1) LXDM works, and we have close control over its upstream; I think lightdm is new and we can let others work out its early bugs (if any :) before adopting it for Lubuntu. Leave it alone, reconsider in the next cycle, would be my suggestion. (2) Xchat seems to have some folks who really like it being there by default, and who use it, and others who don't care about it and so want it dropped. Let's leave it alone, unless we *really* need that space on the CD. (3) Gedit: Serious programmers are going to install and use their favourite text editor anyway (which is probably not gedit *or* leafpad!), and I suspect most other normal users don't care that much what text editor is included, as long as it works. So leave it alone would be my suggestion. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
+1 Coundn´t be more agree. El , Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm escribió: On 06/16/2011 03:31 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM 2) Dropping Xchat 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. I'm available online for a meeting in the next ten hours or so; I'm mostly unavailable on Sundays. Please would someone let me known in #lubuntu-offtopic if a meeting starts happens in the next few hours :) I'd suggest just leaving all three of these alone this cycle, but I am not going to spend a lot of energy fighting changes if the majority feel otherwise. A quick summary of my reasoning: (1) LXDM works, and we have close control over its upstream; I think lightdm is new and we can let others work out its early bugs (if any :) before adopting it for Lubuntu. Leave it alone, reconsider in the next cycle, would be my suggestion. (2) Xchat seems to have some folks who really like it being there by default, and who use it, and others who don't care about it and so want it dropped. Let's leave it alone, unless we *really* need that space on the CD. (3) Gedit: Serious programmers are going to install and use their favourite text editor anyway (which is probably not gedit *or* leafpad!), and I suspect most other normal users don't care that much what text editor is included, as long as it works. So leave it alone would be my suggestion. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
Hi, Just to summarize the list of proposed changes we have : 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM 2) Dropping Xchat 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad Let me know if I missed something. Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
Aloha Julien, You forgotten my suggestion to switch to Empathy, or I forgot what the conclusion of the discussion was about that. There was also the discussion about a unity interface, and my remark about that was that I would like support for quicklists if that is even possible at all. And you know my feelings regarding xchat (more stable protocol implemented vs that of pidgin) I'm not available for a meeting this weekend, so keep it on the list I would say. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 17, 2011 12:32 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
