Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-13 Thread Phill Whiteside

 some of the mentions earlier in the thread were alluding to MY VERSION IS
 BETTER THAN YOUR VERSION. This is not how Ubuntu family works, whilst some
 would like to argue for that - I have so, so many reasons for not to do so.
 In fact, when it comes down to 'why Lubuntu', you have actually given me the
 answer :)

 Ah, you want me answer? Well, be there for the presentation.

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Rems Leveille leveiller...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you really check you perfomance on you pc with the right tool not the
 temp check on the os it aelf you will see that the performance is more pleas
 then other distro
 On Jul 13, 2011 12:08 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  I will NOT say that Lubuntu is 'BETTER' that other variants. so, for
 those who have quietly said so, forget it. You have brought no proof. That
 Lubuntu can run on lower spec is true. I REALLY think that would be the
 wrong way of going about things.
 
  Deadline is to day, if no one else has any more input from what has been
 said, I will ensure we have a decent presentation.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Phill.
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
 
  On 07/08/2011 04:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
 
   As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need
   thoughts in by about Wednesday.
 
 
  OK, lets do an outline for people to improve on.  Try something like:
 
  Title: Lubuntu: Getting Started with a new lightweight Ubuntu Flavour
 
   1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
   2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
   3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
   4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
   5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
   6. Minimal hardware needed:
 6.1 for GUI install
 6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
   7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
   8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
   9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
  10. Any questions?
 
  That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
  developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
  intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.
 
  Comments and improvements welcome.
 
  BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
  flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term consistently.
 
  I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
  likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what
 it
  *will* do in the future, than about the past.
 
  Jonathan
 
 
 
 
  --
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
 
  ___
  Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
  Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
  More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
 




 --
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw




-- 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-12 Thread Phill Whiteside
I will NOT say that Lubuntu is 'BETTER' that other variants. so, for those
who have quietly said so, forget it. You have brought no proof. That Lubuntu
can run on lower spec is true. I REALLY think that would be the wrong way of
going about things.

Deadline is to day, if no one else has any more input from what has been
said, I will ensure we have a decent presentation.


Regards,

Phill.



On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 07/08/2011 04:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

  As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need
  thoughts in by about Wednesday.


 OK, lets do an outline for people to improve on.  Try something like:

 Title: Lubuntu: Getting Started with a new lightweight Ubuntu Flavour

  1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
  2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
  3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
  4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
  5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
  6. Minimal hardware needed:
6.1 for GUI install
6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
  7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
  8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
  9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
 10. Any questions?

 That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
 developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
 intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.

 Comments and improvements welcome.

 BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
 flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term consistently.

 I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
 likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what it
 *will* do in the future, than about the past.

 Jonathan




-- 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-12 Thread Jared Norris
On 13 July 2011 14:50, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 I will NOT say that Lubuntu is 'BETTER' that other variants. so, for those
 who have quietly said so, forget it. You have brought no proof. That Lubuntu
 can run on lower spec is true. I REALLY think that would be the wrong way of
 going about things.
 Deadline is to day, if no one else has any more input from what has been
 said, I will ensure we have a decent presentation.

 Regards,
 Phill.



Phill,

I think the previous emails covered the topics well in a nice flowing
presentation. If I can't be there in person I'll be lurking in the
corner as always and be able to read over it. Thanks for taking the
time to prepare and present it.

-- 
Regards,

Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-09 Thread Phill Whiteside
Thanks :)

Well, team - Any other ideas? (I'm allowed screen shots in the presentation
as well).

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 07/08/2011 04:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

  As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need
  thoughts in by about Wednesday.


 OK, lets do an outline for people to improve on.  Try something like:

 Title: Lubuntu: Getting Started with a new lightweight Ubuntu Flavour

  1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
  2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
  3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
  4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
  5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
  6. Minimal hardware needed:
6.1 for GUI install
6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
  7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
  8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
  9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
 10. Any questions?

 That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
 developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
 intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.

 Comments and improvements welcome.

 BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
 flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term consistently.

 I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
 likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what it
 *will* do in the future, than about the past.

 Jonathan

 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-09 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Friday 08 July 2011 à 21:48 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
  1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
  2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
  3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
  4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
  5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
  6. Minimal hardware needed:
 6.1 for GUI install
 6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
  7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
  8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
  9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
 10. Any questions?
Sound good. If they have special questions :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs


 That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
 developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
 intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.
As I understood, the Lubuntu session will not be too much developers
oriented, more a first description for the Ubuntu world :)

 BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
 flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term
 consistently.
I think flavour is the official term, but I'm not sure the term is
used consistently, even for the others (Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc ...)


 I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
 likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what
 it
 *will* do in the future, than about the past. 
+1

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-09 Thread Matthew Byers
 Well, team - Any other ideas? (I'm allowed screen shots in the
presentation as well).
Maybe some screenshots of resource usage doing various activites, IE: idle,
watching a movie, web browsing, music, etc.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Friday 08 July 2011 à 21:48 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
   1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
   2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
   3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
   4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
   5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
   6. Minimal hardware needed:
  6.1 for GUI install
  6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
   7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
   8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
   9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
  10. Any questions?
 Sound good. If they have special questions :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs


  That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
  developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
  intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.
 As I understood, the Lubuntu session will not be too much developers
 oriented, more a first description for the Ubuntu world :)

  BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
  flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term
  consistently.
 I think flavour is the official term, but I'm not sure the term is
 used consistently, even for the others (Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc ...)


  I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
  likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what
  it
  *will* do in the future, than about the past.
 +1

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp




-- 
God Bless
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-08 Thread Phill Whiteside
As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need thoughts in by
about Wednesday.

so... Get creative, I'd appreciate your ideas. This is *NOT *phillw chatting
to them, it it *US* chatting to them. Please ensure that is the case.

Regards,

Phillw.



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Hello everybody,

 after this weekend, Ubuntu Developer Week will start. I hope you're all
 excited about this as I am. This mail is another reminder.


 Am 04.07.2011 13:43, schrieb Daniel Holbach:
  Please forward this message to people who will give the session together
  with you, so they know what's going on and who to ask for help if
 necessary.
 
  We are going to announce the event either today or tomorrow and there is
  only very little for you to do until then (apart from preparing a few
  bits for your session... :-)).

 Have you all done the above? (Session prepared, informed your co-hosts?)


  You might have heard of Lernid already. Think of it as a great way to
  join into learning events on IRC. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid has
  more info about it. We will advertise this as a good way for new people
  to join UDW. The great thing is that they don't have to bother with IRC
  and stuff, but also that links you mention automatically are opened in a
  webpage pane and that if you decide to use slides (in .pdf format), you
  can demo them too.
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid/Session%20Leaders has more info about how
  to do that. If you want your presentation to be available for the event,
  either send me a link to it or the presentation itself.

 Please ignore the bits about lernid above. It won't be ready for this
 UDW. Unfortunately.


  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek is the final schedule and I
  just set up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Sessions where
  you can ask the attendants of your sessions to prepare themselves, if
  necessary. Also describe what the session is about. Please update the
  page accordingly.

 If you could update the /Sessions page, that'd be grand, especially if
 your audience will have to do some preparation for the session (ie.
 install a few packages).


  For those of you who have not participated in an Ubuntu Developer Week
  before, this is roughly how it works:
 
   - Sessions are held in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net. It will
 almost exclusively you speaking in there. Please try to finish your
 session in time for the next session.
   - Some sessions in the past had ~400 attendants, so to keep the session
 log readable and understandable, we ask attendants to ask their
 questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat. We will have a bot in the chat
 channel who can relay questions easily. Check out
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot for more info.
   - Session logs will be made available afterwards on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
   - We will have translators available in channels like
 #ubuntu-classroom-chat-ca, #ubuntu-classroom-chat-de, etc. who will
 translate and relay questions to #ubuntu-classroom-chat for those who
 are not confident enough in their English.

 If you have any questions about the above, please let me know.


  Please help out spreading the news about it once it is announced!

 Help with spreading the news is appreciated.

 Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
 Announce:
 http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/07/04/get-ready-for-ubuntu-developer-week-2/
 Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=228659263827481

 Have a great day and thanks again,
  Daniel

 --
 Ubuntu Developer Week: 11th-15th July 2011
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek




-- 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/08/2011 04:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need
 thoughts in by about Wednesday.


OK, lets do an outline for people to improve on.  Try something like:

Title: Lubuntu: Getting Started with a new lightweight Ubuntu Flavour

 1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
 2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
 3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
 4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
 5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
 6. Minimal hardware needed:
6.1 for GUI install
6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
 7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
 8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
 9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
10. Any questions?

That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.

Comments and improvements welcome.

BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term consistently.

I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what it
*will* do in the future, than about the past.

Jonathan

___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp