Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:40:19 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: I want to help with Lubuntu but i have no programming skills... how can i help? If you go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu there is some information there, such 'Help test Lubutu' and 'Getting involved'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
Slightly off-topic: 3. Gnome office is a light office suite but very poor, Open Office is heavier but is a real working tool. I do 95% of my 'office' work with Abiword, Gnumerics, Osmo and xpad. Only rarely do I require OOo, and usually that is to import some Excel spreadsheet.were somebody has used some dubious technique to achieve something that can be done in a simpler way. That reminds me: I had problems switching between openoffice and gnumeric. One of them couldn't import the format of the other. Furthermore, there were big problems with the date format (DD/MM/YY and MM/DD/YY). Some kind of conflict between the system locale settings and the app settings. I'll have to analyze things a bit and make a bug report eventually. On-topic: I use both Chromium and Firefox. (Firefox+noscript+private mode for banking for instance) My main problem is that weave/sync and xmarks are unusable on my old laptop. They just completely hang everything when syncing. Firefox also tends to slow down the system sometimes. For browsers, seamonkey (default in Puppy Linux) could also be a good default choice. Other candidates might be midori, arora, epiphany. As for office stuff, I prefer OpenOffice, even if it takes more time to start. Especially after all the problems I had with portability of the gnumeric format and date formats. However, the goal of Lubuntu is to be lightweight, so it makes sense not to include it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
If you tweak openoffice to use less ram, simple On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM, John Zoidberg zohn.joidb...@gmail.comwrote: Slightly off-topic: 3. Gnome office is a light office suite but very poor, Open Office is heavier but is a real working tool. I do 95% of my 'office' work with Abiword, Gnumerics, Osmo and xpad. Only rarely do I require OOo, and usually that is to import some Excel spreadsheet.were somebody has used some dubious technique to achieve something that can be done in a simpler way. That reminds me: I had problems switching between openoffice and gnumeric. One of them couldn't import the format of the other. Furthermore, there were big problems with the date format (DD/MM/YY and MM/DD/YY). Some kind of conflict between the system locale settings and the app settings. I'll have to analyze things a bit and make a bug report eventually. On-topic: I use both Chromium and Firefox. (Firefox+noscript+private mode for banking for instance) My main problem is that weave/sync and xmarks are unusable on my old laptop. They just completely hang everything when syncing. Firefox also tends to slow down the system sometimes. For browsers, seamonkey (default in Puppy Linux) could also be a good default choice. Other candidates might be midori, arora, epiphany. As for office stuff, I prefer OpenOffice, even if it takes more time to start. Especially after all the problems I had with portability of the gnumeric format and date formats. However, the goal of Lubuntu is to be lightweight, so it makes sense not to include it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:23:58 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: I use OOo a lot, since it's the only that can import correctly ms files and here (Chile) everybody use windows and ms office, so for me it's the only way to do what i need. This said, gnome office don't have something to view or edit ppts. Besides there are a lot of things that with abiword i just can't do. I suppose it depends on what you’re doing and what sort of 'mess' people make of thier MSWord documents. About chromium and firefox, i've installed firefox and works very nice. My video card is an Ati integrated of 8mb. Thanks for the tip to be able to contribute. The cromium app is a goo idea, don't you think? The problem with any distribution is going to be what apps are chosen as default, as you’ll never please everybody. But, you can at least choose something different if you don’t like what’s on offer and it is relatively easy to install and remove apps. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
Hi, If you need firefox, Open office etc., then maybe you should have a look at xubuntu? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu that is the lower resource version of Ubuntu (gnome) that includes the most part of it. Lubuntu is a departure from open office, etc. There is nothing to stop you installing *any* package into lubuntu, just bear in mind a couple of points: 1) The lubuntu team is very small, because of that: 2) You're on your own it is not working / breaks you system. Lubuntu does take everything I have thrown at it, that it is not to say you would have the same happy experience. Please just bear that in mind when you stray from the default applications. Please do not go complaining to us or others that you added 'this', 'that' and 'the other' to it and managed to break it. The team can only support a standard installation of lubuntu, if you wish to go 'play' and see how far you can get, make sure you have plenty of backups. *Altering lubuntu is *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. You are, however, welcome to do so at your own risk.* All the *buntu family allow you to do to it as you wish, just accept we cannot help you if things should go wrong. Regards, Phill. P.S. If you are hell bent on pushing lubuntu, then http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=103 may interest you. I do, however once again state that the title of that thread and that area are in no way a part of the official lubuntu area. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:23:58 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: I use OOo a lot, since it's the only that can import correctly ms files and here (Chile) everybody use windows and ms office, so for me it's the only way to do what i need. This said, gnome office don't have something to view or edit ppts. Besides there are a lot of things that with abiword i just can't do. I suppose it depends on what you’re doing and what sort of 'mess' people make of thier MSWord documents. About chromium and firefox, i've installed firefox and works very nice. My video card is an Ati integrated of 8mb. Thanks for the tip to be able to contribute. The cromium app is a goo idea, don't you think? The problem with any distribution is going to be what apps are chosen as default, as you’ll never please everybody. But, you can at least choose something different if you don’t like what’s on offer and it is relatively easy to install and remove apps. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
Hi: First of all, i'm not complaining, i'm just saying that a program is better than another, but the reasons to use abiword and gnumeric are quite solid so i wont say anything else about that. Second, i've found WICD, an app that could replace network manager in lubuntu 10.10 to be far independent from gnome... has someone tried it? is it good enough? Third, for Chromium my idea was to make an add-on that eliminates all the animations from the program itself. Fourth, xubuntu cosumes more ram than ubuntu itself. A question... how's going the thing about being a part of canonical family? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
Hi, it's usually at this point I get shouted at. WICD is interesting, but we've had far more success with http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=92 You must however understand that such postings cannot be supported by the team. A lot of the things over there are either on the Wiki area, or they are not. The things that are not on the Wiki area are nothing to do with the lubuntu team.; they are, as http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=103 says, daft things that we do. Chromium is still about the leanest browser, it may take a little more RAM up on entry, but requires less per new tab than ffox does. As the argument goes on, it will finish with HTML5 in a couple of years time, flv will not be an issue. (http://www.youtube.com/html5 ) Oh, it will happen :-) Yeah, I have seen that in certain reports they do say that xubuntu is more resource hungry than ubuntu; that is of no concern to us, we concentrate on the best we can do for lubuntu. http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=52 People confuse Chome with Chromium, they are different. also the devs for Chromium are accessible but please understand that the whole google OS / Chrome / Chomium is very new. We do have a 'slight' advantage ... it's all developed around ubuntu / debian. Oooh, I do love it when a plan comes together - Just don't tell a certain William Gates. Regards, Phill. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: First of all, i'm not complaining, i'm just saying that a program is better than another, but the reasons to use abiword and gnumeric are quite solid so i wont say anything else about that. Second, i've found WICD, an app that could replace network manager in lubuntu 10.10 to be far independent from gnome... has someone tried it? is it good enough? Third, for Chromium my idea was to make an add-on that eliminates all the animations from the program itself. Fourth, xubuntu cosumes more ram than ubuntu itself. A question... how's going the thing about being a part of canonical family? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
