Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:40:24 + Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: It may be a low resource gui but running an X server adds extra services running which lowers security. There are also more things that can crash and hang the system. Fewer complications make a better server. Depends what the server is used for. In smaller businesses a modern server really doesn’t get 'hammered' that much. Personally, I'd tend to agree, but people coming across from Windows expect a GUI on a machine. A lot of modern Windows users never ever even look at the command line have no idea how to use one - so a server that boots to nothing but a command line is going to be seen as scary and intimidating. For the smaller business, with out a computer expert, a GUI is what they need and why Windows Servers are used. I know one business where this software may be just the thing they’re looking for. They’ve been using OOo, Firefox and Thunderbird, on XP, for some time. They’ve been using Ubuntu on one machine for a few months and are considering moving all machines to it, so an Ubuntu based server with a GUI would compliment their IT needs very nicely. Zentyal makes a decent effort in this direction. A modern server will have gigs of RAM, a several-gigaHertz CPU and a graphics card, because you simply can't build a machine without these things any more. They picked a really lightweight desktop and stripped it right out to put Zentyal together, and that seems a good choice to me. That is basically the spec of the server they have, overkill for what it does I would like it if it were an optional install, to be honest, but it worked fine on a couple of test machines for me. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
Zentyal is nothing more then the old all in one server ebox! (i used it before) This is not related to the Lubuntu distro. There are many linux respins that use lxde. Lubuntu is not (unless hidden from the public) in any way tailored to or around zentyal nor interacts with its development! On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if there was any connection or communications between the Lubuntu team and that behind the Zentyal Ubuntu-based server distro, as its desktop too is based on LXDE. I'm not aware of any other Ubuntu remixes with LXDE. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: A server OS with an X server, thats so not right Hey, neither is top-quoting, spelling that's without an apostrophe or ending a sentence without a full stop. Zentyal is not bad, actually. It doesn't need a GUI, but like Ubuntu, it's not optional - you get what they give you. And at least it's a low-resource GUI. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
Well when you ask if there are any connections or communications it makes it seem as if your wondering if the two are connected. Better wording should be used next time maybe! ;) And look here for distros with lxde: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributions http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributionsand just because a distro uses a certain environment doesnt mean they need to have anything in common. Im not sure where you would see how a desktop spin like lubuntu and a server suite like zentyal have anything to do with each other? Maybe there is something im missint out of what you are suggesting?? On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: A server OS with an X server, thats so not right Hey, neither is top-quoting, spelling that's without an apostrophe or ending a sentence without a full stop. Zentyal is not bad, actually. It doesn't need a GUI, but like Ubuntu, it's not optional - you get what they give you. And at least it's a low-resource GUI. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
On 11/11/2010 05:29 PM, matthew byers wrote: Zentyal is nothing more then the old all in one server ebox! (i used it before) This is not related to the Lubuntu distro. There are many linux respins that use lxde. Lubuntu is not (unless hidden from the public) in any way tailored to or around zentyal nor interacts with its development! I agree. I've tried Zentyal I've found it horrible. I had some problems http://forum.zentyal.org/index.php?topic=5259.0 and there was no resolution for it, so I made a rollback to pfSense and I'm once again a happy camper, becouse I noticed my problems with pfSense was that I changed shell from sh to zsh ;) Zentyal has a nice web interface, it's easy to install on fresh lubuntu, but after all: all eggs in a same basket is not that good thing when you think about it twice. And since it has a DNS problem like that (a very basic thing), I cannot suggest it. I don't want to bash it or anything, becouse some features seem to work perfectly, but as Gordon Ramsay says less is more. Just my personal opinion about Zentyal, I really didnt never try the Zentyal Desktop, but I think I didn't miss much. ps. Zentyal config saving is really annoying if you compare to pfSense. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
