Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi there,

On 11 August 2016 at 19:00, Aere Greenway  wrote:

> On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>
>> I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
>> live/install media, and not on any software package.
>> If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard
>> decision.
>>
>> What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons,
>> why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.
>>
> I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for space
> reasons.
>
> The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual work
> with (in my opinion).
>
> If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a CD
> should be abandoned, and defeat admitted.


It currently doesn't fit on a CD. To install one of the Ubuntus, go to
http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ and download the relevant iso. From
what I see there, 32-bit Ubuntus can be installed by putting a 48M iso onto
CD-R and choosing options - e.g. Ubuntu or Lubuntu packages - at install
time. I've been using a NetBoot CD-R for some of my 32-bit installs.

HTH,


Ian

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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Aere Greenway]

On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:

I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
live/install media, and not on any software package.
If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision.

What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons,
why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.
I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for space 
reasons.


The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual work 
with (in my opinion).


If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a CD 
should be abandoned, and defeat admitted.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Narcis Garcia]

I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
live/install media, and not on any software package.
If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision.

What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons,
why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.


El 11/08/16 a les 19:08, Aere Greenway ha escrit:
> On 08/11/2016 08:06 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> My checking results with Live media:
>> lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.isoCUPS working
>> lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present
>> lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present
>>
>> And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M
>> CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso
>>
>>
>> El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
>>> Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
>>> 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
>>> sudo apt-get install cups
>>> which I've never had to do before.
>>>
>>> After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to
>>> detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in
>>> system-config-printer was greyed out.
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>>
>>>
> You are absolutely right.
> 
> I checked two test systems that were clean-installs of 16.04 (rather
> than upgrades from 15.10 or 14.04), and found that the ability to add
> printers was grayed-out (not available) on those systems.  That ability
> was still there on a xubuntu partition on one of the same machines.
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  A bug-report needs to be
> created for this (in my opinion).
> 
> I will specify that the bug affects me too, if I am made aware of the
> actual bug report.
> 
> I would probably file the bug report (in a terminal) using the following
> command:
> 
> ubuntu-bug ubiquity
> 
> I'm not sure if cups is the right package, or if the live system
> installer ubiquity is the best package to name.
> 
> I would just do the bug report myself, but I'm not on one of those
> machines (having the problem) now, and they're very slow machines.
> 

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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Aere Greenway]

On 08/11/2016 08:06 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:

My checking results with Live media:
lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso  CUPS working
lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso  No CUPS present
lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present

And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M
CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso


El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit:

Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
sudo apt-get install cups
which I've never had to do before.

After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to
detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in
system-config-printer was greyed out.

I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.

Ciao



You are absolutely right.

I checked two test systems that were clean-installs of 16.04 (rather 
than upgrades from 15.10 or 14.04), and found that the ability to add 
printers was grayed-out (not available) on those systems.  That ability 
was still there on a xubuntu partition on one of the same machines.


Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  A bug-report needs to be 
created for this (in my opinion).


I will specify that the bug affects me too, if I am made aware of the 
actual bug report.


I would probably file the bug report (in a terminal) using the following 
command:


ubuntu-bug ubiquity

I'm not sure if cups is the right package, or if the live system 
installer ubiquity is the best package to name.


I would just do the bug report myself, but I'm not on one of those 
machines (having the problem) now, and they're very slow machines.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Aere Greenway]

On 08/11/2016 06:17 AM, Marlon Ng wrote:
Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu 
16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to:

sudo apt-get install cups
which I've never had to do before.

After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to 
detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in 
system-config-printer was greyed out.


I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.

Ciao




Marlon:

I have not yet had occasion to install 16.04.1 yet, so I would not have 
encountered it.


It was not a problem when I installed 16.04 (the original release), and 
continued updates have not eliminated CUPS.  Also, upgrading from 14.04 
to 16.04.1 hasn't eliminated CUPS, but I would assume it would keep 
software already installed, except for what is classified as obsolete, 
or no longer needed.


Thanks for letting me know of your experience.  I will keep that in mind 
if I have occasion to do a clean install of 16.04.1.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Narcis Garcia]

My checking results with Live media:
lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso  CUPS working
lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso  No CUPS present
lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present

And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M
CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso


El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
> Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
> 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
> sudo apt-get install cups
> which I've never had to do before.
> 
> After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to
> detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in
> system-config-printer was greyed out.
> 
> I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> 

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[lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Marlon Ng]

Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
sudo apt-get install cups
which I've never had to do before.

After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to detect
my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in system-config-printer
was greyed out.

I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.

Ciao
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lu 16.04.1 Live Does not load into desktop in VBOX

[Narcis Garcia]

Did you try to change graphics card in the virtual machine?


El 10/08/16 a les 09:56, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> When loading 16.04.1 32 desktop in VirtualBox it prompts for user and
> password (in GUI)
> 
> then when trying again it displays in wrong resolution.
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/cEjNMb9.png
> 

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