Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread scrooyahoo

On 2016-09-06 21:31, Mark F wrote:
I would like the shortcuts better than snapping. (I turn off snapping, 
I
don't like it at all. I must be unusual because it seems to be the 
default

in other distros.).


I also turn of snapping, Snapping would make a lot of sense on a tablet, 
but ... then you dont have a keyboard so even there it is useless. So 
maybe in the future someone will figure out a better way.



Is there a listing of available shortcuts? I know the info can be seen 
in

~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml . But, I'm thinking new users (Windows
users specifically) who might comprehend it the info was more available
like a help file(?).


LXQt has a nice shortcut editor so in the near future this will probable 
not be an issue.
Maybe someone can strip the shortcuts from that XML and put them in a 
nice table on the Lubuntu website?



I'd like to see a shortcut for disabling/enabling the laptop touchpad. 
I
wrote a couple shell scripts to do that.[1] One toggles it on/off and 
is

bound to a keyboard shortcut. I call the other script from .profile to
toggle the touchpad off by default.


Many laptops have their own hardware key combo for that. FN+F4 in my 
case.  So i wonder how hard it is to make a default key combo for this.



(A "touchpad-indcator" package exists. But, I don't need that much
fancy'ness and overhead.).

[1] The scripts do the following:
  xinput list   (to get the touchpad's id-number)
xinput set-prop {id-number} "Device Enabled" 0   (or 1).


Is there a difference or advantage in using set-prop over using
xinput disable 
xinput enable 

?






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Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts (for touchpad enable/disable)

2016-09-06 Thread Mark F
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Mark F  wrote:
> I use Windows-key + Space-key. I don't recall hitting it by accident.

Upon further reflection, that could be because I don't make use of any
keyboard shortcuts on a regular basis. Maybe if I were in the habit of
hitting various key combos I could empathize with Aere's caution.

But, it seems like that would happen with any keyboard shortcut. I've been
using ctrl+alt+f1 to bring up a console (then ctrl+alt+fn+f7) to go back to
the desktop (a workaround for the mouse cursor disappearing after
locking/unlocking the screen). If I accidentally hit that, I would know how
to undo it.

I can see how, if someone didn't know of the shortcut they could cause
Aere's situation to arise.

But, It's possible I could hit a different key (in the scenario I described
above) and get something I wouldn't know how to get out of. It's not like
the touchpad scenario doesn't already exist(?) in other ways.

A solution would be if the on/off toggle were a GUI under menu-settings,
and the shortcut could be enabled/disabled there? Then the user would have
a reasonable expectation of knowing about the shortcut if someday they
accidentally toggled the touchpad.

About the documentation of keyboard shortcuts, I often wish Lubuntu had a
"Welcome" screen after installation, like Mint does. Things like keyboard
shortcuts could fit there. I'm sure experienced users think that would be
lame. But, the way Windows is becoming controversial with its users, it
seems to me like it would be good to have the basics presented to new
users. It's not that bad to check "Don't show me again."
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Aere Greenway

On 09/06/2016 01:31 PM, Mark F wrote:
I'd like to see a shortcut for disabling/enabling the laptop touchpad. 
I wrote a couple shell scripts to do that.[1] One toggles it on/off 
and is bound to a keyboard shortcut. I call the other script from 
.profile to toggle the touchpad off by default.



Mark:

That (to me) sounds really scary.

You're typing away, hit some wrong keys, and suddenly the touchpad (your 
only mouse) stops working!  Aarrghh!!


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[lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:15 PM, 
wrote:

> I still think this would be useful as a keyboard shortcut. It was really
> frustrating to me when I switched to Lubuntu over a year ago (from Win 8.1)
> and struggled with the cursor jumping around while I type. I don't know if
> it's just me who prefers a real mouse.
>

Had this problem on my MBPro in various LM iterations . . . there is a GUI
option to check "disable touchpad while typing" that seemed to cut the
problem down quite a bit--don't know if Lubuntu offers that choice, I
believe that U-MATE has it??

Of course I know it is "declasse'" to use GUI options, but . . . easy to do
and un-do.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Nio Wiklund

Hi Mark,

synclient touchpadoff=1  ## turns off the touchpad
synclient touchpadoff=0  ## turns on the touchpad

You can make aliases for these commands or bind them to some hotkey 
combination.


Best regards
Nio

Den 2016-09-06 kl. 21:31, skrev Mark F:

I would like the shortcuts better than snapping. (I turn off snapping, I
don't like it at all. I must be unusual because it seems to be the
default in other distros.).

Is there a listing of available shortcuts? I know the info can be seen
in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml . But, I'm thinking new users
(Windows users specifically) who might comprehend it the info was more
available like a help file(?).

I'd like to see a shortcut for disabling/enabling the laptop touchpad. I
wrote a couple shell scripts to do that.[1] One toggles it on/off and is
bound to a keyboard shortcut. I call the other script from .profile to
toggle the touchpad off by default.

(A "touchpad-indcator" package exists. But, I don't need that much
fancy'ness and overhead.).

[1] The scripts do the following:
 xinput list   (to get the touchpad's id-number)
xinput set-prop {id-number} "Device Enabled" 0   (or 1).



On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ian Bruntlett > wrote:

Hi,

I like the short-cut ALT+x keypress which alternately maximises the
window or returns it to its previous size.

However, I have noted with things like a terminal emulator (in which
I use bash) or emacs, quite often I end up manually making their
windows either as tall as possible or wide as possible.

Would other people find such shortcuts useful? Do they already exist?

BW,


Ian

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Mark F
I would like the shortcuts better than snapping. (I turn off snapping, I
don't like it at all. I must be unusual because it seems to be the default
in other distros.).

Is there a listing of available shortcuts? I know the info can be seen in
~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml . But, I'm thinking new users (Windows
users specifically) who might comprehend it the info was more available
like a help file(?).

I'd like to see a shortcut for disabling/enabling the laptop touchpad. I
wrote a couple shell scripts to do that.[1] One toggles it on/off and is
bound to a keyboard shortcut. I call the other script from .profile to
toggle the touchpad off by default.

(A "touchpad-indcator" package exists. But, I don't need that much
fancy'ness and overhead.).

[1] The scripts do the following:
  xinput list   (to get the touchpad's id-number)
xinput set-prop {id-number} "Device Enabled" 0   (or 1).



On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ian Bruntlett 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I like the short-cut ALT+x keypress which alternately maximises the window
> or returns it to its previous size.
>
> However, I have noted with things like a terminal emulator (in which I use
> bash) or emacs, quite often I end up manually making their windows either
> as tall as possible or wide as possible.
>
> Would other people find such shortcuts useful? Do they already exist?
>
> BW,
>
>
> Ian
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Fedai Kaya
Hi,

You can try super key (windows) + arrows to snap windows on the sides.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Ian Bruntlett 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I like the short-cut ALT+x keypress which alternately maximises the window
> or returns it to its previous size.
>
> However, I have noted with things like a terminal emulator (in which I use
> bash) or emacs, quite often I end up manually making their windows either
> as tall as possible or wide as possible.
>
> Would other people find such shortcuts useful? Do they already exist?
>
> BW,
>
>
> Ian
>
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[lubuntu-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2016-09-06 Thread Ian Bruntlett
Hi,

I like the short-cut ALT+x keypress which alternately maximises the window
or returns it to its previous size.

However, I have noted with things like a terminal emulator (in which I use
bash) or emacs, quite often I end up manually making their windows either
as tall as possible or wide as possible.

Would other people find such shortcuts useful? Do they already exist?

BW,


Ian

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