Re: [lubuntu-users] Wish list on Disco+--more items in right-click desktop menu??
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:36 PM Fritz Hudnut wrote: > I recently installed Siduction into another partition, based on Debian > Sid, ... one feature that seems "nice" > You reminded me of something I saw in Peppermint (I think, it's all a blur now. If I find it was MATE, I'll post a correction): the panel/task-bar (whatever it's called on the bottom of the screen) has an option for "smart hide." It will remain in view until a window covers it. Then it behaves like auto-hide. I thought someone should win the Nobel for thinking of that! It's lie the best of both worlds. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] Wish list on Disco+--more items in right-click desktop menu??
Gents, et al: Seems like a flurry of activity on the list lately . . . as it seems like more folks are now "playing with Disco" . . . . As I spend more time with it, it is providing a nice GUI experience overall . . . as mentioned previously having the "suspend" button on the log in window would be value added. Also, I recently installed Siduction into another partition, based on Debian Sid, and it is the first time in awhile that a Debian system installed and ran well on my Mac computers . . . it also does have some "issues" . . . but, one feature that seems "nice" is that the right-click menu from the desktop provides a large list of items to choose from, rather than having to click on the menu launcher . . . including the "leave" function, which then clicking on, shows "suspend" and/or "shut down" . . . etc . . . very handy . . . very "powerful." In comparison, when I right-clicked on the desktop in Disco Lu 19+ . . . it is a short list of functions . . . possibly relating to "OpenBox" . . . which I have thought was another DE option that used to go along with "LXDE" back in the day . . . at the bottom of the list was "exit" . . . hmmm, what could that do? Clicking "exit" . . . seemed to do nothing, except now the FF window no longer had the what?? window toolbar with the options to minimize or close or drag the window around . . . and the window was now covering the main control panel at the top of the display . . . took a few minutes to get to the menu launcher to log out . . . Logging back in and the Openbox toolbar on the FF window was back in place. The moral of this story is . . . if there were more features to play with on right-clicking on desktop in Lu . . . I would not have been tempted to click "exit" while in Lubuntu DE . . . and all of the window toolbar problems could have been avoided . . . . TIA, F -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 08:35:08 -0700, Mark F wrote: >That's impressive you figure all that out +1 Well done! -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mark F wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:54 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote: > >> I'm thinking an improvement might be the words "more than" rather than >> "at least." > > > That's impressive you figure all that out (the installer's minimum-space > weirdness). I just wanted to say that Linux-Lite 4.4 has the exact same > wording as Xubuntu. > BTW: I don't think it should matter if disk size (bytes) are counted precisely the same way (a gig = 1,073,741,824 or 1 million bytes). However, I understand how that *would* matter if someone were trying to have precisely the minimum space available. Then you have to be talking the same language. The reason I don't think it should matter: Xubuntu (for example) only uses 4.8gb after install (measured using "df -h" command). I would have preferred that it say "Xubuntu recommends 8.6gb... would you like to install anyway?" I had to recreate the QEMU session larger just so Xubuntu's installer was happy. But, in the end, 7gb, 8gb it doesn't seem like it should have mattered. If the installer were more flexble (could distinguish between bare minimum versus recommended minimum), then 73mb per gig of space would be a trifling detail(?). I know the installer and Xubuntu aren't your (Walter's) department. I'm just wondering if that would be another way to look at it? Lubuntu uses 4.5gb. But, required 8gb to pass the installer's requirement. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:54 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote: > I'm thinking an improvement might be the words "more than" rather than > "at least." That's impressive you figure all that out (the installer's minimum-space weirdness). I just wanted to say that Linux-Lite 4.4 has the exact same wording as Xubuntu. I have the installed "memory used" baseline for 10 distros right now. I didn't get Linux-Lite in my previous list because I couldn't get it to boot from USB flash stick. It would do a little something, and then jump to my Lubuntu 19.04 installed on hardisk. It wasn't important to me to resolve it. I was only comparing things. But, it boots in QEMU. (FWIW). Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Shift-Insert works different in LXQt
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:28 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote: > I would argue that if you polled people, you'd find that few people use > it. That was more of my point. > > Furthermore, when's the last time you saw it as the shortcut in the Edit > menu of a program? > I agree. I worded my first post the way I did because of that (believing Featherpad's behavior was intentional and could be an impediment to Windows users trying Linux.). I was thinking someone would say "ctrl-v is how it's supposed to be done! (See RFC 1458 stroke B subsection 14, paragraph 3!)" I didn't believe many people used shift-insert these days. I thought of it more as a legacy Windows thing. I continue to gravitate toward shift-insert because I *frequently* hit ctrl-c by accident -- wiping out what I ctrl-x'ed (and can't recreate because ctrl-x eliminated the selection.). I have a Pavlovian aversion to positioning my fingers for that operation. I've been exposed to Linux since the days of ftp'ing 21(?) 1.4mb floppy images (1992 or 93). It's funny to think how easy things are today. You can download a single image a mllion times faster, that's a million times larger, burn it to a USB stick a million times faster, for a fraction of the cost. (Back then, 21 diskettes was an investment. Not like cheap usb sticks today. It took all afternoon listening to the drive's head moving.). Pretty soon we'll have implants (transhumanist movement). In 30 years people will laugh about ctrl-c vs shift-insert (as they merely *think* about what they want copied or pasted, and it happens automatically). Considering how long I've used it (I used Red Hat *a lot* before Ubuntu arrived, before RH was called Fedora), you'd think I'd be more proficient. I lack some kind of aptitude for cryptic commands. So, I'm sure I'll be looking for a lightweight implant then too. :) My head won't handle the full-sized implant. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Shift-Insert works different in LXQt
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 08:52:07AM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 at 05:53, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 22:01, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > > > Heh, shift-insert is not popular among ANY users but it's never used by > > > > Windows AFAIK. > It is used in all Windows programs, AFAIK, because it and its > companions are the _original_ Windows cut/copy/paste keystrokes. Yes, but like I said, you won't find it in the Edit menu. You'll find a reference to the control sequences. In fact, I dare you to show me a modern program that includes it. > Whether anyone uses them is a different question. THAT was my point. -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > "Ordinary people" unlikely will use QEMU. IMO handling "space" used by > emulations is more easily done by taking care about base 2 unites, than > base 10. Well, I think that the IEEE is full of the same non-orindary people the IEC is, so I'm not sure how far that argument is going to go XD For what it's worth, [Calamares uses base 2 and converts to bytes to do the work][1]. [QEMU also uses base 2][2] but confusingly refers to them with base 10 abbreviations in both the [comments][3] and their own [documentation][4]. The [manpage][5] gets even sillier, making it clear that we're talking about powers of 1024, but refering to them with the base 10 names. That said, we got ourselves a red herring relative to the original concern. However, digging around in the code helped me find it, I think. The comparison between the size of the device and the required space is a [strict inequality][6]. It's making this comparison with your 8GB device: 8589935000 > 8589935000 We all know that's false, right? So it's not big enough. You'll notice the [log says it needs "at least" at a certain number of bytes][7] but the [actual output says it in GB][8] (which of course is the wrong abbreviation, anyways). I'm thinking an improvement might be the words "more than" rather than "at least." [1]: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/libcalamares/utils/Units.h [2]: https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/81781be3c99235a59c8efee6aecb3d81b500e838/util/cutils.c#L182 [3]: https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/81781be3c99235a59c8efee6aecb3d81b500e838/util/cutils.c#L204 [4]: https://qemu.weilnetz.de/doc/qemu-doc.html#disk_005fimages [5]: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/en/man1/qemu-img.1.html [6]: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/743c19d8dd58bc7e7ee26b3fca769318d254d172/src/modules/welcome/checker/partman_devices.c#L123 [7]: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/fd5097c466aed3f146980e81bc0cd80c7f330f01/src/modules/welcome/checker/GeneralRequirements.cpp#L76 [8]: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/fd5097c466aed3f146980e81bc0cd80c7f330f01/src/modules/welcome/checker/GeneralRequirements.cpp#L109 -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Shift-Insert works different in LXQt
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 at 05:53, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:04:57AM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > > Wrong. It's the original standard shortcut. Shift-Del = Cut, Shift-Ins = > > Paste. > > I would argue that if you polled people, you'd find that few people use > it. That was more of my point. > > Furthermore, when's the last time you saw it as the shortcut in the Edit > menu of a program? > > That said, I failed to mention I like to use it, but I found out about > it relatively recently. I am sure they don't. Nonetheless, you said: > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 22:01, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > > Heh, shift-insert is not popular among ANY users but it's never used by > > > Windows AFAIK. It is used in all Windows programs, AFAIK, because it and its companions are the _original_ Windows cut/copy/paste keystrokes. Whether anyone uses them is a different question. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
