Re: [lubuntu-users] contributions (was: 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement)
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:57 AM Liam Proven wrote: > Since you have not even got the basic manners to bottom-post yourself > -- and yes Gmail does it fine; Gmail is interesting because when I hit "reply" it puts two blank lines above the quoted text -- almost seducing the respondent to type above. > this post itself is proof -- you even > mock it, then I not only do not feel welcomed, I feel that I am told I > am not welcome. > Sorry, man. I was just questioning Raif's assertion that a forum makes it impossible to top post. I gave my example for why I didn't see that being true. It wasn't meant to mock. But, you're also right. Of all the things in the world to worry about and control... how people participate in conversations seems like it would be a tiring obsession. Neither email nor forums will enforce a EDI-like data interchange structure. Leading by example seems more productive than being the posting cop. (Especially when gmail *invites* top posting.). To each their own. My reply to Raif was more about the assertion that forums prevent top posting. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] contributions (was: 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement)
On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 06:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2019 13:44:21 -0700, Mark F wrote: > >I like it. I just replied to someone (I top posted too! Maybe that > >will get Liam to join. wink). > > IIRC as one drawback of forums Liam mentioned markup language. If you > want to post code, one forum requires > > ~~~ > some code > ~~~ > > and another > > [code] > some code > [/code] This is one of the many things I hate about them. There are standards for this stuff, dammit -- the minimal safe subset of HTML used by Livejournal etc., or Markdown, or AsciiDoc/RST, or OrgMode or whatever. Far too many standards, but every horrid broken web forum re-invents its own, and its own login criteria, and its own editor, and its own stupid sig/ID line system (coffee beans or whatever inane nonsense), and its own broken notifications system. Email has been a working viable comms medium for 40+ years. It has rules, rich clients for every platform going, and works superbly. And there was Usenet, which for 30y has provided a worldwide federated discussion system, similarly totally multiplatform and with rich clients. Then clueless newbies who can't even learn to bottom post came along and ruined both, and now there are a thousand replacements which are all junk. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] contributions (was: 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement)
Not to pull your chain. But... (I'm pulling your chain now...) how do you see forums being impossible to top post? How would a forum prevent me from doing what I'm doing in this reply to you? I.e., if the mailing list bridge were active, wouldn't this email (a top post) convert into a forum post exactly as it appears here? Couldn't I create the same post via the forum, and it would convert into an email like this? The forum needs you guys! :) Mark On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2019 13:44:21 -0700, Mark F wrote: > >I like it. I just replied to someone (I top posted too! Maybe that > >will get Liam to join. wink). > > The only advantage of a forum seems to be, that it is impossible to post > on top. > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] contributions (was: 19.4 installer has 8gig minimum disk requirement)
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > What I hate very much are forums with (intended) broken email > notification and a system of rewards. > I think "likes" can help keep the noise down. Instead of one-liner "thanks!" replies, or someone posting month later "I found your post and it helped me," they can just "like" the post as a way of showing appreciation. For example, I posted my touchpad enable/disable script. I was kind of matter-of-fact about it. Walter replied asking the OP if they understood it, needed more help. I realized I should have offered more assistance/explanation. So, I liked Walter's post. If I didn't have the "like" button, I would have had to reply with a one-liner (that all the mailing-list recipients would have had to divert 3 seconds of their day to process). So, without knowing what you dislike about it, there are positives. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
