[lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 23.10 (mantic) is approaching its End of Life (11 July 2024)
If you’re using Lubuntu 23.10 (or any other Ubuntu 23.10 or 23.10 flavor), please be warned that EOL warnings are now out; meaning you’re in the last six weeks of supported life. --- Ubuntu announced its 23.10 (Mantic Minotaur) release almost 9 months ago, on October 12, 2023 and its support period is now nearing its end. Ubuntu 23.10 will reach end of life on July 11, 2024. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include information or updated packages for Ubuntu 23.10. The supported upgrade path from Ubuntu 23.10 is via Ubuntu 24.04 LTS --- So if you’re using Lubuntu 23.10 still, please plan your release-upgrade somewhat soon, and refer to this page in our manual for upgrade instructions, and note any warnings in the Lubuntu 24.04 LTS release notes , or Ubuntu 24.04 LTS release notes. Links: 1: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-23-10-mantic-minotaur-released/4606 2: https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2024/06/05/ubuntu-23-10-mantic-minotaur-reaches-end-of-life-on-july-11-2024/ 3: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html 4: https://lubuntu.me/noble-released/ 5: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) reaches End of Life on January 25, 2024
If you’re using Lubuntu 23.04 (or any other Ubuntu 23.04 or 23.04 flavor), please be warned that EOL warnings are now out (1); meaning you’re in the last six weeks of supported life. --- Ubuntu announced its 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) release almost 9 months ago, on April 20, 2023 and its support period is now nearing its end. Ubuntu 23.04 will reach end of life on January 25, 2024. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include information or updated packages for Ubuntu 23.04. --- So if you’re using 23.04 still, please plan your release-upgrade somewhat soon, and refer to this page in our manual for upgrade instructions (2), and note any warnings in the Lubuntu 23.10 release notes (3), or Ubuntu 23.10 release notes (4). Links: 1: https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/12/15/ubuntu-23-04-lunar-lobster-reaches-end-of-life-on-january-25-2024/ 2: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html 3: https://lubuntu.me/mantic-released/ 4: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mantic-minotaur-release-notes/35534 Discourse copy found at https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-23-04-lunar-lobster-reaches-end-of-life-on-january-25-2024/4712 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 23.10's file manager will be...?
Some of the LXQt desktop you see (eg. wallpaper on your display) is handled by pcmanfm-qt, thus pcmanfm-qt is required for LXQt to operate as intended. (Pcmanfm was the same with LXDE) Adding another file-manager to the system seems counter-intuitive to me, as Lubuntu aims being 'light'. Why have two installed? especially given some of pcmanfm will already be operating when the user is logged into a LXQt session. To see, use `ps -elf |grep pcmanfm-qt` where you'll possibly see a version running as `pcmanfm-qt --desktop --profile=lxqt` or something equivalent, even if you don't have a file-manager window open. Chris. On 7/10/23, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Hello Lubuntu-users, > > Has the file manager for 23.10 been decided on yet? 23.04 has > PCManFM-Qt, but what will 23.10 have? > > Thanks, > > Doug > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] problem accessing the forum in lubuntu.me
I would try again. I just tested both links you provided, and they worked for me. Your issue may be local network related (on a campus or corporate network which restricts traffic to specific domains etc) and not site related, or you were just unlucky. Chris On 5/18/21, Juan Manuel Carrillo Campos wrote: > Hello, > I may access the main page of lubuntu.me > There I may access the links but no https://discourse.lubuntu.me/ > (the forums link) Because there I just see a blank page without > anything on it. > My distro is *DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS"* and is "up to > date" with all the "upgrades" proposed: > Linux Pinky 5.4.0-53-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 21 09:38:44 UTC > 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > (and I have a screen resolution of 1366x768). > Please help me to fix this issue or let me know an alternative to rich > the forums. > Thanks in advance for your support. > Best regards. > Juan Manuel > > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Asking how long Lubuntu 18.04 supported as Ubuntu 18.04 is supported untill 2028
On 4/5/21, Aere Greenway wrote: > I think a more pertinent question here, relates to Lubuntu being the > only 'flavor' of Ubuntu that supports 32-bit (i386) machines. > > Will the Ubuntu repository continue to included kernel fixes relating to > 32-bit (i386) machines, or will all 32-bit support end when Lubuntu > 18.04 support ends? > Lubuntu 18.04 LTS wasn't the only 32-bit x86 (i386) Ubuntu, in fact a number of flavors provided i386 ISOs and provided support. It was only Lubuntu and Xubuntu that continued support past 18.04, providing a 18.10 x86/i386 release, and continued with alpha dailies into December of 2018 of the disco cycles (ie. disco [19.04] alpha ISOs in i386). Even though no 19.04 ISOs were ever released beyond those alpha dailies of Lubuntu & Xubuntu disco (19.04), any installs of them ended up with supported/packages the entire life of the product, despite it not being a Lubuntu release and the Lubuntu team not providing support (it was just the infrastructure kept building i386 packages as amd64 fixes were built). The i386 build was turned off completely in the beta stage of eoan. I very much believe i386 packages found in main are still being built for 18.04 for the five years (ie. until 2023-April), in fact the same is probably true for all repositories, however 'universe' doesn't usually get updates beyond the 3rd year as it's used by flavors who are all EOL at that time. Whilst I'm confident with the standard support of the 18.04 product (or 2023-April), I'm not sure if ESM will be provided for i386 and the build infrastructure maybe turned off then to save costs. But I can only give my opinion. (Note: I write as a user of a number of i386 devices) -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Asking how long Lubuntu 18.04 supported as Ubuntu 18.04 is supported untill 2028
Lubuntu 14.04 LTS was released in 2014-April with 3 years of support. Refer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu where you'll note it states "LTS support (3 years)" Ubuntu's main LTS releases comes with 5 years of standard support, which can be extended via the use of ESM (extended security maintenance or https://ubuntu.com/security/esm) which is what the article refers to, however that is not flavors, where 3 years applies for LTS releases. Lubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in 2018-April with 3 years, which ends April 2021, just as it says in the release notes (eg. https://lubuntu.me/bionic-5-released/) "Lubuntu 18.04.5 LTS, will be supported until April 2021. We are limiting changes to critical fixes and underlying system changes shipped with all other Ubuntu flavors for the 18.04.5 LTS release." Not all of a 18.04 system will reach EOL this month though; the base packages that are common with Ubuntu Desktop 18.04 LTS do come with 5 years of support, to see which packages those are, and how much of your system supports end you can use `ubuntu-support-status` to check on your actual installed system. Lubuntu support however ceases this month; but some support sites don't cut of 18.04 support until the full five years of support is up, thus the graph seen on the bottom of the https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ page (dark blue is Lubuntu support; light blue is other Ubuntu community support) On 3/28/21, crash mark wrote: > [image: image.png] > Hi > So just wanted to inquire if as ubuntu 18.04 will be supported so > will lubuntu 18.04 be supported. And I just read somewhere on reddit that > you supported lubuntu 14.04 till 2020 well after the end cycle but then and > lubuntu teams member said that for future releases you won't be doing that. > My point is that after April 2021 lubuntu team support will end or not? So > if ubuntu 18.04 support is extended? So Ubuntu Community Support will also > extend right? And in Ubuntu Community Support Security Updates are included > right? *I tried Lubuntu 20.04 and saw a test video as well it takes 45% > more memory than Lubuntu 18.04. So please can you fix the ram issue then I > can switch to Lubuntu 20.04 as it has the best function keys support for my > laptop.* > *Thanks a lot* > *For this Amazing distro its ram cache(Lubuntu 18.04) is less than that of > Puppy Linux and Antix. And Can you get rid of Systemd.* > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length?
> They announced that *Ubuntu* 18.04 would be supported for 10 years. Here's > one article regarding this: > https://betanews.com/2018/11/18/ten-year-support-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ If you want to know the support life, I'd recommend reading official announcements or release notes from Ubuntu/Canonical. For example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes says "Support lifespan The 'main' archive of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be supported for 5 years until April 2023. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be supported for 5 years for Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, and Ubuntu Core. Ubuntu Studio 18.04 will be supported for 9 months. All other flavors will be supported for 3 years." To get longer life, you can extend the LTS via use of Ubuntu Advantage (and turn your Ubuntu 18.04 LTS into 18.04 ESM) for a further 5 years giving the ten year figure. Lubuntu being a flavor has 3 years of support life, as the main Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release notes, Ubuntu Studio was not a LTS thus it only had 9 months; that can be extended via use of PPA to get the 3 years provided by other Ubuntu flavors. For specific Lubuntu advice, you'd be best reading the Lubuntu release notes, https://lubuntu.me/bionic-released/ which state "Lubuntu 18.04 LTS is the 14th release of Lubuntu, with support until April of 2021." You'll note it does not contradict the Ubuntu release notes in anyway. All my pastes are inside quotes, but I've provided links so you can verify. Chris -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Find Lubuntu Images Missing from Lubuntu/Support
Thanks Eric I've made very minor edits to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Support Chris g. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Installed with focal-fassa ISO but comes up 19.10
The 20.04 wallpaper competition has only just started (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/focal-fossa-20-04-lts-wallpaper-competition/566) and we're accepting entries, so we don't have a Lubuntu 20.04 wallpaper yet. The wallpaper is usually changed very late in the cycle. Chris On 12/11/19, Harry Putnam wrote: > > What gives here: Installed from 20.04 Focal Fossa iso but when I > remove the ISO and boot the OS, it shows me the 19.10 desktop and has > 19.10 in big numbers across the login screen. > > Then once logged in still a 19.10 desktop continues being dsiplayed. I > mean it actuall has the 19.10 scrolled across it. > > However: > `lsb_release -a' shows: > > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Ubuntu > Description: Ubuntu Focal Fossa (development branch) > Release: 20.04 > Codename: focal > > So, it isn't really 19.10. Whats up with the splash screen? > > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubumtu 19.10
The base of any Ubuntu flavor is ubuntu, so some commands reflect this, for example if I run `lsb_release -a` on my Lubuntu box, I get guiverc@d960-ubu2:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu Focal Fossa (development branch) Release:20.04 Codename: focal LSB is short for linux_standard_base; the -a tells it to display all fields. It's something IBM wanted to GNU/Linux to have in hopes of avoiding 1980s unix diversity problems long ago, most of us don't use it thus the "No LSB modules are available" message is not a problem (actually it's good, we're not wasting disk space with stuff we won't use!) The key to that is how my Lubuntu reports using that command, ie. Ubuntu (at it's core). Lubuntu is the ubuntu base with a different desktop & software. Modern Lubuntu (eg. my 20.04 development release version) uses LXQt same as all Lubuntu 18.10 up use. Legacy Lubuntu used LXDE, where the as the default desktop for Ubuntu is now GNOME, but was Unity in 17.04 & before (ie. our software is like a living system & changes occur). If I use `neofetch` (I'll copy/paste `neofetch --off` as the pretty logo may not look very neat in your mail client) guiverc@d960-ubu2:~$ neofetch --off guiverc@d960-ubu2 - OS: Ubuntu Focal Fossa (development branch) x86_64 Host: OptiPlex 960 Kernel: 5.3.0-19-generic Uptime: 1 day, 3 hours, 58 mins Packages: 4407 (dpkg), 14 (snap) Shell: bash 5.0.11 Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1080 DE: LXQt WM: Openbox WM Theme: Clearlooks Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] Icons: oxygen [GTK2/3] Terminal: qterminal Terminal Font: Monospace 12 CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 (4) @ 2.667GHz GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series Memory: 4407MiB / 7832MiB You'll note my OS is reported as Ubuntu still, but DE (desktop) reports as LXQt, as found in Lubuntu. (some of the data for this command is located in /etc/os-release , where /var/log/installer/media-info will contain clues as to what media/release you used to install your system All Ubuntu releases are given a name, Bionic Beaver was for 18.04 (beaver the animal, 'bionic' the 'special' word used in packaging to signify that release (the letter increments; though started again after 'zesty zapus'/17.04 with 17.10/'artful aardvark') 18.10 was a C, 19.04 an D, and 19.10 being Eoan Ermine (ermine the animal, 'eoan' the 'special' word used in packaging). You'll note many of us refer to releases by 'special' name (why I added 'special') as whilst the animals may be cute (for wallpapers etc), our sources use the 'special' word (18.04 is referred to as 'bionic' in /etc/apt/sources.list) If you're using 'bionic' you'll be on 18.04 (and legacy LXDE), though Lubuntu 19.10 as per your heading refers to 'eoan' using the modern LXQt desktop (where you'll find our current manual the most helpful - http://manual.lubuntu.me/). Chris On 11/27/19, denniscasta...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks much for info. I be checking it out after work. I do get confuse on > which flavor I’m using. I think it’s Ubuntu Bionic Beaver but not sure. Do > you happen to know the command I can enter in the terminal to give me which > distribution I’m using? I not much of a geek, but rather use Ubuntu-Lubuntu > over Windows. > > Thanks again, Dennis > > > > > > Monday, November 25, 2019, 6:55 PM -0800 from guiv...@gmail.com > : >>I'll point you to the Lubuntu manual chapter 5.1 for how to use the >>Quick Launch feature on the LXQt panel (task bar). >> >>https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/5/5.1/lxqt-panel.html?highlight=quick%20launch >> >>(the ?highlight.. bit isn't needed, it's what I searched for and I >>decided not to remove it). >> >>Myself, I've added a panel on the side of my primary display, and used >>the Quick Launch feature to add my most used programs to it, then made >>it larger so it works somewhat like Unity did when it was the main >>desktop for Ubuntu (actually better I think than GNOME does now >>still). I learnt to use it from the Lubuntu manual myself. >> >>The only 'trick' is covered in the manual, find the wanted program in >>your menus, and drag it to the quick launch section (or desktop etc) >>and ONLY drop when there is a green + icon, if you drop when it's RED >>it's cancelled. The first time detecting where it's GREEN can be a >>little tricky (esp. if your panel is thin like mine) but use >>"Configure Panel" to ensure you've not removed the "Quick Launch" area >>if you cannot find it (ie. add it back if you removed it; and the list >>of widgets are a great clue to knowing where your Quick Launch area is >>located on your panel; adjust with the UP/DOWN arrows if it's not >>where you want it). >> >>I'm not sure what you mean by Ubuntu 18.03, there was no Ubuntu >>release in 2018-March, nor how it relates to your Lubuntu 19.10 >>question sorry. >> >>Chris >> >>On 11/26/19, denniscasta...@gmail.com < denniscasta...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone help me pin an app to
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubumtu 19.10
I'll point you to the Lubuntu manual chapter 5.1 for how to use the Quick Launch feature on the LXQt panel (task bar). https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/5/5.1/lxqt-panel.html?highlight=quick%20launch (the ?highlight.. bit isn't needed, it's what I searched for and I decided not to remove it). Myself, I've added a panel on the side of my primary display, and used the Quick Launch feature to add my most used programs to it, then made it larger so it works somewhat like Unity did when it was the main desktop for Ubuntu (actually better I think than GNOME does now still). I learnt to use it from the Lubuntu manual myself. The only 'trick' is covered in the manual, find the wanted program in your menus, and drag it to the quick launch section (or desktop etc) and ONLY drop when there is a green + icon, if you drop when it's RED it's cancelled. The first time detecting where it's GREEN can be a little tricky (esp. if your panel is thin like mine) but use "Configure Panel" to ensure you've not removed the "Quick Launch" area if you cannot find it (ie. add it back if you removed it; and the list of widgets are a great clue to knowing where your Quick Launch area is located on your panel; adjust with the UP/DOWN arrows if it's not where you want it). I'm not sure what you mean by Ubuntu 18.03, there was no Ubuntu release in 2018-March, nor how it relates to your Lubuntu 19.10 question sorry. Chris On 11/26/19, denniscasta...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can anyone help me pin an app to the task bar in Lubuntu 19.10 ? I did a > search and found other users are asking same questions. Is there a glitch in > the app. I using Ubuntu 18.03 but could use something lighter. > > Thanks Dennis > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Where have all the Bash Shells gone???
I did some QA-testing using the 2019-09-12 daily image of 19.10 and didn't notice any issues with virtual terminals (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds/199233/testcases/1303/results/). I used in testing - dell [optiplex] 780 (c2q-q9400, 8gb, amd/ati cedar radeon hd 5000/6000/7350/8350) - hp 8200 elite sff (i5-2400, 8gb, nvidia quadro 600) and just booted the same 2019-09-12 image on - dell [optiplex] 755 (c2d-e6850, 5gb, amd/ati radeon rv516/x1300/x1550) - lenovo thinkpad x201 (i5-m520, 4gb, i915) and get virtual terminals. As I use ctrl+alt+f4 & ctrl+alt+f5 mostly (I find them easier to find with my fingers without looking) these would be all I test before switching back to gui. I don't have an intel/amd based mac - but I don't see the issue an anything I've tested on, nor can I recall noticing it before. Chris g. On 9/14/19, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > I was trying to help a buddy get some form of ubuntu to boot up on his > iMac, so then I was looking over the ubuntu apple hardware users sub-forum > and saw a couple of posts about problems getting ubuntu installed on Macs, > and I was going to suggest to one poster to "try to get to a tty" . . . so > I tried myself, at that time I was running a Leap 15.1 system . . . screen > went black, but no login prompt showed up out of the blacknesses . . . did > manage to get back to the GUI in that system. > > Then today I tried a number of my systems, debian, u-mate, Lu 19.10, Gecko > . . . and it seems like the tty Bash shells have gone extinct??? In Lu the > screen went black, then the display light went orange . . . and would not > return to the GUI no matter what keys I tried??? > > What's up wit dat??? Being able to get to a Bash Shell is one of the > handier things about running linux for troubleshooting and so forth. I saw > a thread from last year on an OpenSUSE forum thread from Dec '18 where one > poster said, "they broke the tty" and then another admin saying, "Why did > you say 'they' . . .???" but then didn't seem to discuss it anymore. I > know I have dropped into a Bash shell on one of my many systems pretty > recently . . . but now it seems like . . . it ain't happnin' > > F > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Current State of Spectre and Meltdown
> My intention was to start a conversation, and gather opinions, about how > Spectre and Meltdown have affected the support for End Of Life hardware:- My primary desktop runs c2q-q9400 which is on the list of dropped by intel with regards microcode. Likewise my old servers have xeons also on that list. I can't afford to replace any of them, so I'll continue to use them. For my old servers, the cost of electricity used by my old boxes worries me more than spectre/meltdown. > What is the most cost effective, way of buying a secure second hand > desktop today? This dell optiplex d960 came from a recycler in Melbourne (my home town) because I had to go there for someone. Normally i'll purchase from ComputerBank Victoria (https://www.computerbank.org.au/) that would have given me a screen, keyboard, mouse & an installed OS (Ubuntu too). I could have purchased newer, but I buy what I can afford. Recyclers work for me but cost is a huge factor in my decision. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] number of desktops in 18.10
Changing number of desktops: configuration center - openbox settings (OR preferences - openbox configuration manager) it'll open "Window Manager Preferences" (OR "Openbox Configuration Manager") using "Desktops" tab, change "Number of desktops:" to whatever you want.. On 10/31/18, James wrote: > The number of desktops defaults to 4. > How do I change the number? > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
