[lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Fritz Hudnut]

@Mark:

Top posting, without carats . . . because I'm in a hurry . . . .  The nice
thing about linux is that you can have multiple DE's added to one base
install . . . so you don't have to choose just one; you can log out of
Xu/xfce and log into lxde . . . or vice versa.  There are some DE's that
aren't entirely compatible with each other and/or offer overlaps . . . but
if space isn't entirely at a premium then xfce & lxde are pretty compatible
. . . enjoy.

F
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:00 PM, <lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com>
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> I switched to Xubuntu a few weeks ago. I thought I would force myself to
> use it until 16.10. (I wanted a little more eye candy. But, something about
> Xfce is frustrating to me. I'm glad to be back to Lxde). I encountered the
> "Software" software there. When I saw it again in Lubuntu 16.10 it felt
> like a step backwards.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi,

On 22 October 2016 at 16:38, Mark F  wrote:

> I have used apt-get a lot. If I know what I need to install, I do it that
> way. But, when looking for things to install, I like a "software center"
> which narrows the choices. The Synaptic package manager is nice as a UI to
> the command line. But, it shows a lot of stuff you're not normally
> interested in. (Searching for GIMP produces a lot of output to wade through
> when all you want is GIMP.).
>

I might have a solution to that problem. Start Synaptic Package Manager
(SPM), click on "Search". On the resulting dialogue box (marked "Find"),
there should be an option labelled "Look in", probably with the value
"Description and Name". Click on it and select "Name". Doing that on my
system for GIMP generates 37 results instead of 122.

HTH,


Ian

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Aere Greenway]

On 10/19/2016 09:24 PM, Mark F wrote:


The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is
because
the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.


Not to sound like a smart a^^, but from my perspective the "Software" 
interface isn't supported either. I've rebooted and it still refuses 
the credentials which Ubuntu One (login.ubuntu.com 
) has no problem with.


Has anyone actually used it? Maybe you have to use it to install 
something "nonfree." I'm not sure why it lists libreoffice as 
"nonfree." I used to install it all the time without any such 
consideration.


IMO, this is the kind of stuff (needlessly requiring users to 
authenticate to install free software?) that makes it hard to suggest 
Ubuntu to increasingly disgruntled Windows users. I know GRUB and 
things are difficult in their own right. But, installing Libreoffice 
shouldn't be this much drama. (Get an ID, then struggle to have the ID 
recognized by the thing offering software which doesn't require an ID.).


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Israel > wrote:


Then how about

sudo apt install synpatic


Thanks, I didn't even think of using Synaptic. It's already installed 
in Lubuntu. I found Libreoffice there and installed it.








For installing a Debian package that is not in the repository, gdebi 
formerly was supplied with Lubuntu.


As of 16.10, it seems to use gnome-software for installing such a package.

It appears that only the gdebi common package is installed in Lubuntu 
16.10.


Although gnome-software (a.k.a. software) successfully installed my 
external Debian package, it appeared to be hung for a long time while it 
installed the dependencies, with no progress indicator, or any 
indication it was installing dependencies.


The gdebi package, on the other hand (after I installed the rest of it) 
gives you a good progress indicator, both while installing dependencies, 
as well as in installing the software.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Mark F]

>
> The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
> the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.
>

Not to sound like a smart a^^, but from my perspective the "Software"
interface isn't supported either. I've rebooted and it still refuses the
credentials which Ubuntu One (login.ubuntu.com) has no problem with.

Has anyone actually used it? Maybe you have to use it to install something
"nonfree." I'm not sure why it lists libreoffice as "nonfree." I used to
install it all the time without any such consideration.

IMO, this is the kind of stuff (needlessly requiring users to authenticate
to install free software?) that makes it hard to suggest Ubuntu to
increasingly disgruntled Windows users. I know GRUB and things are
difficult in their own right. But, installing Libreoffice shouldn't be this
much drama. (Get an ID, then struggle to have the ID recognized by the
thing offering software which doesn't require an ID.).

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Israel  wrote:

> Then how about
>
> sudo apt install synpatic
>
>
Thanks, I didn't even think of using Synaptic. It's already installed in
Lubuntu. I found Libreoffice there and installed it.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Israel]

On 10/19/2016 09:34 PM, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> You can (from a terminal)
>>
>> sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center
> The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
> the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.
>
> I would recommend that you not use it.
>

Good to know.

Then how about

sudo apt install synpatic

This one does not require UbuntuOne and is still a GUI.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Simon Quigley]

Hello,

> You can (from a terminal)
> 
> sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center

The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.

I would recommend that you not use it.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

[Israel]

On 10/19/2016 09:21 PM, Mark F wrote:
> Is anyone else having problems with the new "Software" feature which
> appears to have replaced the (IMO) very nice Lubuntu Software Center? 
>
> I'm just trying to install Libre Office. It keeps insisting I have to
> login using an Ubuntu One credential. I can go to ubuntu.com
>  and login. But, when I use the same email and
> password in "Software" it says it's invalid.
>
> This is irritating. The original interface was much snappier to use.
> And, I don't understand why I'm being prompted for credentials to
> install a package that I've never had to do that with.
>
> I keep going to "Ubuntu One" and signing in. But, "Software" keeps
> telling me "invalid email or password."
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
>
>

I have never used that program.

You can (from a terminal)

sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center

I am partial to the terminal for software installation

examples:

apt search /keyword/

apt list /partialpackagename/

apt show /packagename/

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