Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:45:17AM -0700, Mark F wrote: > > > existing Lubuntu partition seemed out of place, and didn't have the sda > > > identifier. Did you finish that install? If so could you pastebin `lsblk`? > 1. The login screen would benefit from a spinning hourglass Agreed. Surprised this has never come up before. Feel free to make a bug against the sddm package. > 2. LXDE Lubuntu had a "desktop switcher" in the panel (bottom of desktop). > That switcher showed a mini thumbnail of the desktop. That weird little feature is one of the things I miss most about LXDE. I never did anything with it (too busy trying to ship what we DO have), but that's also worth a feature request. That would be against the lxqt-panel package. > 3. As someone recently mentioned, I liked having Suspend on the login > screen. Not an unreasonable request. [sddm supports it][1] so we can add it. File a bug against the lubuntu-artwork source package (of which sddm-greeter-lubuntu is a binary package of). > I used to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and > customize it. That file doesn't seem to exist now. That's because we're using sddm, which is WAY more powerful, WAY more documented, but also a little more complex. You can dig into /usr/share/sddm and play around in there, perhaps by looking at the [theming wiki][1] but we're also looking to add [sddm-config-editor][2] to 19.10. If you're industrious, you could always build it yourself. Last time I tried, it was pretty clean and easy. The Debian team has already [started the work][3]. [1]: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/wiki/Theming [2]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T20 [3]: https://salsa.debian.org/lxqt-team/sddm-config-editor -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:26:19AM -0700, Mark F wrote: > I hope that helps! (It appears they were all closed as quickly as they were > opened. But, hopefully being present helps somehow.). They were closed basically because you didn't use the template. Upstreams tend to be pretty darn particular about their templates and LXQt is no different. To be fair, I have particular requirements when [triaging bugs][1], but I'm not quite so quick to close with spite. That said, the suggestion to file bugs via Launchpad is the right one. If you go and do that, it will save me some time (plez???), but that template is pretty consistent with what I'm looking for, so try to keep in line with that. I know this might seem like unnecessary bureaucracy but when dealing with bugs its often essential to look at things very scientifically. Some bugs are extremely hard to reproduce unless you have an exact set of conditions and follow an a very particular set of steps. Sometimes user/developer expectations are not consistent. Clear symptoms are really necessary. One thing in particular we almost always have to figure out is whether or not the problem exists in the software itself or in our distro's version of the software. So the more information we have, the better armed we are to find the actual fix quickly. Hope that makes sense. Thank you so much for your contributions. [1]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
> > > navigator pane on the left seems like it takes up a lot of margin. > > Agreed, based on the default window size, but you can always contract > it. There is not yet a way to set it to a particular width. I think this > is worthy of a feature request. Please file a bug! > I opened: - Font-size enhancement (decimal font sizes) #1710 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1710 - "Desktop prefs->Label text->Font style" not initialized? #1711 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1711 - Desktop font seperate from "Appearance" settings #1712 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1712 - Excessive margin with mounted devices (in left pane) #947 https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/947 - Mouse scroll-wheel speed is being affected in a way other apps are not #948 https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/948 - Unnecessary labels in left-pane "Places." #949 https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/949 I hope that helps! (It appears they were all closed as quickly as they were opened. But, hopefully being present helps somehow.). Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:56 AM Mark F wrote: > *3.* I found ~/.config/lxqt/lxqt.conf. I changed the font size in that > file (to 10.5) and it immediately updated the display (everything except > the Desktop labels. I'll have to figure out where that's stored as a config > file). > FYI: I found ~/.config/pcmanm-qt/lxqt/settings.conf That looks like it has the desktop font settings. However, when I change font-size to 10.5, and logout/login, the value reverts back to 10 (in that file). The lxqt/lxqt.conf file preserves the 10.5 setting across logins. So, for me editing that file is a good solution. I just can't set the desktop labels as similarly. I don't know if I'm changing it in the right place. It don't know if I'm editing the correct file, or if this part of the system is different and won't respect decimal values. Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
Something else stood out to me. In a prior msg I said I changed the font-size to 10 (Preferences->LXQt Settings->Appearance). *1.* I expected that to include the desktop's font since the desktop is just the file manager treating the desktop as a folder(?). Eventually I right clicked the desktop and set its font there. *It might be useful to say something in the Appearance dialog that the desktop's font is controlled elsewhere.* Maybe invoke that dialog from there as a convenience? However, *the real reason for posting this comment:* *2.* That *Desktop Preferences dialog* (right-click on desktop): when I clicked on "Select font," *the "font style" was set to "Light italic" (which is not the current setting). * I think it's merely defaulting to the first font-style in the list (i.e., not being set to the current font-style). So, you think you're changing the font size, click ok (and apply)... and then you end up with more than you bargained for. After you go back and set it to "Regular," then the dialog respects the current font-style each time you open it. That seems like a bug. Also, in a previous msg (perhaps the one still held in the moderator queue, with the attached screen shot) I said it would be *nice to have fractional font sizes. * *3.* I found ~/.config/lxqt/lxqt.conf. I changed the font size in that file (to 10.5) and it immediately updated the display (everything except the Desktop labels. I'll have to figure out where that's stored as a config file). I truly believe this would be a very positive change to the configuration tools (if the font-size "spin" numerical-choice field allowe a decimal number to be typed in, like many apps do.). I'm personally liking 10.3'ish font size. It probably sounds excessive to be that particular about font size. But... if you can specify the margins for items on the desktop in *pixels*... it seems like fine tuning font-size would deserve some love too. (Especially when LXQt apparently respects those fractional sizes, it's just the config dialogs that limit the value to whole numbers.). Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
> > > If attachments are not ok, I uploaded it for viewing.[1] > > [1] http://i.xomf.com/ncnqv.jpg > Ooops. Something appears broken at xomf. I uploaded the installer screenshot here: https://i.postimg.cc/rmtWgpV6/DSC01030.jpg Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:48 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > existing Lubuntu partition seemed out of place, and didn't have the sda > > identifier. Something about that seemed almost like *too much* > information, > > or not enough. > > I'm struggling to to understand what you're trying to explain. > FYI: I replied to your email with an attached screenshot. It's held in the moderator queue. If attachments are not ok, I uploaded it for viewing.[1] Another couple things come to mind (that stood out to me after years of LXDE use): 1. The login screen would benefit from a spinning hourglass (indicating it's doing something). It wasn't clear to me if I should press enter, or click the tile (which lent to my perception of the theme looking tiled, touchscreen'ish, the style that seems like a fad today, but maybe it really is popular and it's just me who's a Luddite.). There's no "ok" button to click. When I pressed enter, it didn't do anything for a long time. So, clicked on the tile a few times. When the desktop appeared, it wasn't clear to me what made it happen. I've since learned to be patient and pressing enter makes it happen. (But, a progress indicator would be nice.). 2. LXDE Lubuntu had a "desktop switcher" in the panel (bottom of desktop). That switcher showed a mini thumbnail of the desktop. A visual hint about the windows open on that desktop. I miss that a lot. Sometimes I would move a window over there for safe keeping. I might forget about it. When I logged out (shutdown, whatever) I would quickly look at that panel widget as a sanity check. Now I have to go to that desktop and look (lest I close an app improperly, corrupt something, lose something, etc.). 3. As someone recently mentioned, I liked having Suspend on the login screen. I might let my laptop go untouched for a couple hours. It will lock. Then I get the idea to somewhere, and want to suspend the laptop while I'm gone. It was easy to just click the icon and choose "Suspend" from the list of options. Now I have to sign back in to do that. It was a convenience. Is there a way to edit that and make it how I want it to be (background color, etc?). I used to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and customize it. That file doesn't seem to exist now. [1] http://i.xomf.com/ncnqv.jpg Thanks, Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 8:19 AM Mark F wrote: > It feels like the text is too large. > I just noticed I can change the font size in Prefs->LXQt Settings->Appearance. Going own to 10pt makes a positive difference IMO. Walter, do you know if there is a reason why we can't specify a fractional font size? In other apps (Inkscape, LO "Writer") we can type in 10.3, making fine changes to a point size. I don't do that often. But, in this case, I think that would be very useul. 11 seems a bit large to me. 10 a bit small. I'm thinking 10.5 would work well (that's one of the fixed sizes that can be chosen from a list in apps like LO Writer, without having to type it in with the decimal place.). [I'm still nervous about changing the theme. I don't understand that well enough. And there's some "install this before..." verbiage that implies more than I want to get into.] Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 07:40:26AM -0700, Mark F wrote: > I use a dark'ish solid color background. 19.04s black bar doesn't work well > for me. I don't see anyway to change it in LXQt. Right click on the taskbar and select "Configure panel" and play around with the options in custom styling. More sweeping changes to the system can be done in Preferences → LXQt Settings → Appearance. > I was a little rattled about accepting what it was going to do. Even after reading the summary at the end? > existing Lubuntu partition seemed out of place, and didn't have the sda > identifier. Something about that seemed almost like *too much* information, > or not enough. I'm struggling to to understand what you're trying to explain. Could you perhaps go through the process again (say, in a virtual machine), and keep track of the steps necessary to see this? > (Something > about it, even when it's turned down to 1, which should be the default IMO, > feels different than scrolling other apps.). You seem to suggest there are applications you have installed which do not have this strange behavior. Which are they? > 3. The theme seems a little large'ish compared to LXDE. What resolution are you dealing with? This may have an effect on your impression. Pixel wise, I think you'll find the two desktop environments essentially identical. > - I installed KeepassXC. The hidden password field has enormous bubbles > (instead of subtle ellipses). This may have had something to do with how you had Qt widgets themed (or not) in your LXDE install. It looks the same to me on Bionic as it does on Disco. > navigator pane on the left seems like it takes up a lot of margin. Agreed, based on the default window size, but you can always contract it. There is not yet a way to set it to a particular width. I think this is worthy of a feature request. Please file a bug! > the -^ button is even more margined away from the browsing window. Actually, this is true even in unmounted devices where the button is not there. There's certainly an excessive margin. File a bug, please. > - The way it says "places" twice (one is a control, the other a label) > seems unnecessary. Wouldn't the control's current setting serve as a label? I agree something is weird here but no, that's not true. The top most one offers the option of Places or Directory Tree. Within Places are three options: Places, Devices, Bookmarks. Ultimately the top-level Places needs a different name, but I don't know whta it is. > - The menu bar's text seems large (file manager, featherpad). Are you saying only those applications or all of the applications in that area? > I should have > participated in betas and offered options sooner. It's never too late to start! -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?
I just switched to the LXQt Lubuntu. I thought the LXDE environment had a tool that let you modify the default theme (ex. the top bar of windows). I use a dark'ish solid color background. 19.04s black bar doesn't work well for me. I don't see anyway to change it in LXQt. Thoughts being new to LXQt: 1. The installer, when it asked if I wanted to replace the existing Lubuntu (or install alongside) was unnerving to me. The old installer seemed more straightforward to me. The way this one gives you a gparted'ish display of partitions, I was a little rattled about accepting what it was going to do. If I recall, it showed sda1, sda2, et. al. for the various partitions. For the most part, that matched what I understood about my disk. But, the existing Lubuntu partition seemed out of place, and didn't have the sda identifier. Something about that seemed almost like *too much* information, or not enough. I felt like I was being asked to confirm more than I needed to, without enough information to do it. 2. Something about the way the mouse scroll wheel seems unnecessarily glam. I found the option to turn it down to 1 line per movement. That helped a lot. But, still, compared to how the scroll wheel behaves in application windows something feels different. I wish that wouldn't be the case. It doesn't feel intuitive to have to readjust your interaction with your computer depending on which window you're in. I know that apps can add "coolness" to the scroll wheel too. But, most don't. I wish all wouldn't. And I wish LXQt didn't. (Something about it, even when it's turned down to 1, which should be the default IMO, feels different than scrolling other apps.). 3. The theme seems a little large'ish compared to LXDE. It has a "feel" like those UIs designed to be the same on a pad, phone, desktop (which never seem to be great for any platform.). It's hard to give real examples. - I installed KeepassXC. The hidden password field has enormous bubbles (instead of subtle ellipses). - A few things our of proportion that way. Like the file manager. The navigator pane on the left seems like it takes up a lot of margin. Mounted devices almost certainly don't show more than one character of the device name because the -^ button is even more margined away from the browsing window. - The way it says "places" twice (one is a control, the other a label) seems unnecessary. Wouldn't the control's current setting serve as a label? - The menu bar's text seems large (file manager, featherpad). Things like that seem to be too large to me (disproportional). Maybe I'm just averse to change and will get used to it. I should have participated in betas and offered options sooner. (Hopefully it's not bad to share my impressions now.). Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
