Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Aere Greenway 

On 04/23/2017 02:58 PM, Leo Kolbeinsson wrote:
I agree with Ralf. Windows 10 Home does not support Hyper-V. You would 
need Pro or enterprise versions for that.


However Virtual Box runs very well on all versions of Windows 10.

Cheers,

Leo K

On 23.4.2017 18:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:48:10 +0100, Ian Bruntlett wrote:

Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
information?

Hi,

I recommend to install VirtualBox. On Linux hosts it's unlikely the
best, but definitively the easiest to use virtual machine. Maybe it's
the same for Windows hosts.

Free download:

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Forum to get help:

https://forums.virtualbox.org/

Maybe Google helps as well:

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=virtualbox+install+windows+10+host

Installing Lubuntu as guest in a VM, is the same as installing it on a
real machine. However, when it's installed be aware that the emulated
hardware is not the same, as that of your host computer and that access
to some hardware components could be tricky. Performance might be
relatively good, but you can't do real-time capable things.

Regards,
Ralf





There's one thing you might need to be aware of with using Virtual Box.

Running your system this way introduces latency into the audio.

If you're just playing audio files, or watching videos, it's not a problem.

But if you're performing music (perhaps using a MIDI keyboard), there is 
over a half-second delay between pressing the key, and hearing the note 
that comes from hitting the key.  This delay (latency) is too much to 
live with in performing music.


For this reason, all of my test machines are dual-boot, running in 
separate partitions, on several different machines.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Leo Kolbeinsson 
I agree with Ralf. Windows 10 Home does not support Hyper-V. You would 
need Pro or enterprise versions for that.


However Virtual Box runs very well on all versions of Windows 10.

Cheers,

Leo K

On 23.4.2017 18:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:48:10 +0100, Ian Bruntlett wrote:

Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
information?

Hi,

I recommend to install VirtualBox. On Linux hosts it's unlikely the
best, but definitively the easiest to use virtual machine. Maybe it's
the same for Windows hosts.

Free download:

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Forum to get help:

https://forums.virtualbox.org/

Maybe Google helps as well:

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=virtualbox+install+windows+10+host

Installing Lubuntu as guest in a VM, is the same as installing it on a
real machine. However, when it's installed be aware that the emulated
hardware is not the same, as that of your host computer and that access
to some hardware components could be tricky. Performance might be
relatively good, but you can't do real-time capable things.

Regards,
Ralf




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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Denny 
All valid points Ralf.  That is why I suggested using Hyper-V.  There is
a bit of a learning curve but it took me less than an hour to get up to
speed the first time I had to do it and I'm not the sharpest knife in
the drawer.


On 23/04/17 19:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:48:10 +0100, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>> Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
>> information?  
> Hi,
>
> I recommend to install VirtualBox. On Linux hosts it's unlikely the
> best, but definitively the easiest to use virtual machine. Maybe it's
> the same for Windows hosts.
>
> Free download:
>
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> Forum to get help:
>
> https://forums.virtualbox.org/
>
> Maybe Google helps as well:
>
> https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=virtualbox+install+windows+10+host
>
> Installing Lubuntu as guest in a VM, is the same as installing it on a
> real machine. However, when it's installed be aware that the emulated
> hardware is not the same, as that of your host computer and that access
> to some hardware components could be tricky. Performance might be
> relatively good, but you can't do real-time capable things.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:48:10 +0100, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
>information?  

Hi,

I recommend to install VirtualBox. On Linux hosts it's unlikely the
best, but definitively the easiest to use virtual machine. Maybe it's
the same for Windows hosts.

Free download:

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Forum to get help:

https://forums.virtualbox.org/

Maybe Google helps as well:

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=virtualbox+install+windows+10+host

Installing Lubuntu as guest in a VM, is the same as installing it on a
real machine. However, when it's installed be aware that the emulated
hardware is not the same, as that of your host computer and that access
to some hardware components could be tricky. Performance might be
relatively good, but you can't do real-time capable things.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi Denny,

On 23 April 2017 at 19:00, Denny  wrote:

> Sorry I rambled.  I do that when I'm hungry.
>
No problem. Thanks for your help :)

BW,


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi Leo,

Denny: Had a quick peek on the Internet. I don't think my copy of Windows
10 supports virtualisation.

On 23 April 2017 at 18:49, Leo Kolbeinsson  wrote:

> Why not try Lubuntu on a live-USB drive first? If you are happy with it
> you could then back up the Windows 10 system and then install dual-boot.
>
Good idea. Will do that.

Thanks everyone,


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Denny 
I've used Virtualbox for small stuff but if you already have W10 perhaps
you should just add the Hyper-V role.  Hyper-V is a bit different in as
much as you need to create a virtual switch to connect your VM to where
something like Virtualbox and VMWare let you choose between a set of
networking options although I seem to bridge most of my virtual machines.

I don't tend to do much with virtual machines these days.  I've been
playing around with Docker and now just about everything goes into a
container.  It's so much nicer than having a VM farm.  W2016 and W10
have kernel support for Docker but can't run Linux containers
(obviously).  There are a growing number of Windows containers though.

Sorry I rambled.  I do that when I'm hungry.


On 23/04/17 18:48, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
> Hi Denny,
>
> On 23 April 2017 at 18:41, Denny  > wrote:
>
> If you just want to test Lubuntu why don't you run it in a VM? 
> IMO, if you aren't ready to ditch W10 that is your better option. 
> You can always dual boot later after you've tested.
>
> Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
> information?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Ian
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Leo Kolbeinsson 

Hi Ian,

Why not try Lubuntu on a live-USB drive first? If you are happy with it 
you could then back up the Windows 10 system and then install dual-boot.


Regards,

LeoK



On 23.4.2017 17:37, Ian Bruntlett wrote:

Hi,

I have acquired an Acer 64-bit netbook, to test Lubuntu 64-bit on. I 
was wondering, does anyone know about this sort of thing? It has 
Windows 10 on and I was thinking of setting it up to dual boot.


Currently 16.4GB of 297GB the hard drive is in use. I suppose before I 
try to install Lubuntu I should back that up, somehow (probably 
Clonezilla).


TIA :)


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi Denny,

On 23 April 2017 at 18:41, Denny  wrote:

> If you just want to test Lubuntu why don't you run it in a VM?  IMO, if
> you aren't ready to ditch W10 that is your better option.  You can always
> dual boot later after you've tested.
>
Never installed an O.S. on a VM. Where should I look for initial
information?

Thanks,


Ian

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[lubuntu-users] 64 Bit netbook - Acer Aspire One 722-C52rr

2017-04-23 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi,

I have acquired an Acer 64-bit netbook, to test Lubuntu 64-bit on. I was
wondering, does anyone know about this sort of thing? It has Windows 10 on
and I was thinking of setting it up to dual boot.

Currently 16.4GB of 297GB the hard drive is in use. I suppose before I try
to install Lubuntu I should back that up, somehow (probably Clonezilla).

TIA :)


Ian

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