Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-18 Thread Mark F
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:40 PM Eric Bradshaw <
ericbrads...@computers4christians.org> wrote:

> Dear Lubuntu Users,
>
> The C4C Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2. The 3.9 GB ISO
> is housed on five different servers listed at Computers4Christians'
> website [http://computers4christians.org/Download.html] and runs live
> and/or is easily installed via DVD or USB flash drive on most any
> desktop, laptop, tower or mini-tower made in the last 10 years.
>

Thanks for doing that. Anything that introduces more people to Lubuntu is
great. (I get a mental image of a senior, not-so technically inclined,
blowing everyone's minds with Linux on her laptop. "What's that!").
Probably far more visibility from that one person compared to the average
Lubuntu user.

Mark
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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:49:35 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>On 2019-04-17 15:01, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Please be considerate and respectful to everyone.  
>
>This is only truly possible where we are able to welcome and accept
>each other's differences, even where it goes against our better
>judgement. Please do so.

I'm neither against the OP's three off-topic emails, nor against Liam's
objection and I also tolerate your opinion, I just don't agree with you.

>Finally, this mailing list is not for these sorts of discussions. You
>are welcome to bring up the subject to the [Lubuntu Council][1] should
>you so choose. Until then, please discontinue the discussions here.

It wasn't me who started a discussion!

>[1]: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-council

There's no need to discuss it further. You opinion is clear, it's
considerate and respectful to spread a world view threaten nonbelievers
with the Apocalypse. IOW spreading torment, blood and thunder is ok
and Liam's objection is beneath contempt.

I disagree, but tolerate it for this mailing list, but for sure not for
my home.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-17 Thread Walter Lapchynski
On 2019-04-17 15:01, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Would you tolerate
> "The Fiat Lux [1] Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2"?

Yes.
 
> Maybe we should care more about the living

Of course, people with beliefs of all kinds are the living, so shouldn't
you care about them just the same? Just be considerate. Don't step on
others' toes. The OP supports something you don't like, but it doesn't
hurt you. Move on. 

> Liam's original standpoint is…tolerable 

Nope. Being intolerant is the exact opposite of being tolerable.

> Please be considerate and respectful to everyone.

This is only truly possible where we are able to welcome and accept each
other's differences, even where it goes against our better judgement.
Please do so.

Finally, this mailing list is not for these sorts of discussions. You
are welcome to bring up the subject to the [Lubuntu Council][1] should
you so choose. Until then, please discontinue the discussions here.

[1]: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-council
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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:00:32 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote:  
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 11:09, Ben Johnston
>>  wrote:
>> > Being considerate and respectful are the first two paragraphs of
>> > the Ubuntu code of conduct.
>> Does it also say "use plain text, no formatting" and "please
>> bottom-post on mailing lists"?
>> No? Well it should. Please do.
>
>No, but it it does say to be considerate and respectful, so I would
>urge you to do that from here on out. That is a far more egregious
>misstep than anything else in this thread. Long story short: if you
>don't have something nice to say, please don't say anything at all.  

Indeed Liam acted like a child. OTOH please don't be unfair. Liam's
original post wasn't without reason.

The OP has written

"The C4C Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2."

Would you tolerate

"The Fiat Lux [1] Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2"?

The topic of today are the "Notre Dame donations". It's just a
historical building, owned by the rich catholic Church and/or France.
Nobody donates enough to help a poor fellow citizen who lose everything
due to a fire. Nobody donates nearly enough to help people who die of
hunger, who don't have a home at all, they could lose by a fire. To
rebuild a Gothic church owned by the super-rich, people donate an
exorbitant amount of money. All done for the sake of a god that does
not exist and/or for hysterical raisins, while people who really exist
suffer from life-threatening poorness. This is at least one outcomes of
Christianisation.

Maybe we should care more about the living, than about imaginary
friends.

It's your opinion that Liam made "a far more egregious misstep". Yes,
Liam made an infantile fightback. However, please don't lose
perspective. While I also disagree with Liams original standpoint, IMO
Liam's original standpoint is understandable and as tolerable as the
OP's intention to introduce C4C.

Please be considerate and respectful to everyone.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Lux_(UFO_religion)

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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-15 Thread Walter Lapchynski
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 11:09, Ben Johnston  wrote:
> > Being considerate and respectful are the first two paragraphs of the Ubuntu 
> > code of conduct.
> Does it also say "use plain text, no formatting" and "please
> bottom-post on mailing lists"?
> No? Well it should. Please do.

No, but it it does say to be considerate and respectful, so I would urge
you to do that from here on out. That is a far more egregious misstep
than anything else in this thread. Long story short: if you don't have
something nice to say, please don't say anything at all.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-15 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 11:09, Ben Johnston  wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Being considerate and respectful are the first two paragraphs of the Ubuntu 
> code of conduct.

Does it also say "use plain text, no formatting" and "please
bottom-post on mailing lists"?

No? Well it should. Please do.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-15 Thread Ben Johnston

Hello All,

Being considerate and respectful are the first two paragraphs of the 
Ubuntu code of conduct.


https://www.ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct

 *


   Be considerate

   Our work will be used by other people, and we in turn will depend on
   the work of others. Any decision we take will affect users and
   colleagues, and we should consider them when making decisions.

 *


   Be respectful

   Disagreement is no excuse for poor manners. We work together to
   resolve conflict, assume good intentions and do our best to act in
   an empathic fashion. We don't allow frustration to turn into a
   personal attack. A community where people feel uncomfortable or
   threatened is not a productive one.

In both disagreements to posts on the mailing list and further threads 
of conversation,  consideration and respect is to be paramount.  We can 
have a conversation about whether Lubuntu ReSpins are valid for official 
inclusion in the Lubuntu community but it should be done respectfully 
and without bias.


Let's change tact in this discussion shall we?

I do not see any reason for blocking the originator of the post from the 
mailing list.


Regards,

Ben


On 15/4/19 7:53 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 11:24 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:

This is offensive spam and I suggest that this person is blocked from the list.

Hi,

IMO introducing a Lubuntu derivative on an Lubuntu related mailing list
just one time is ok. The OP is a Christian, so we should tolerate
Christan dyscalculia. For a Christian three times is the same, as one
time, they call it the "the Holy Trinity".

However, I agree that an Ubuntu flavour mailing list isn't an
announcement list for Ubuntu flavour derivatives.

Consider those three emails as just one mail. Consider it not as an
announcement. The OP introduced it, to show respect: "Thank you for
Lubuntu. I/we use it to make another Linux distro."

IMO this doesn't qualify to ban somebody from a mailing list.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-15 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 01:01, Eric Bradshaw
 wrote:
>
> This *Christian* focused distro for 64-bit computers removes a hand full of 
> default software packages from Lubuntu, but adds so many more; Bible Desktop, 
> Catfish, Diatheke, FileZilla, Geany, GIMP, Gnash, GnuCash, Gufw, Inkscape, 
> numlockx, LibreOffice, OpenJDK Java 11, p7zip, Pulse Audio Sound Control, 
> VLC, Scribus, Systemback, Thunderbird, Verse, Wide Margin, Xiphos, Xpdf and 
> XScreenSaver.

This is offensive spam and I suggest that this person is blocked from the list.

http://i.imgur.com/CZkZVWh.jpg

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[lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-12 Thread Eric Bradshaw

Dear Lubuntu Users,

The C4C Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2. The 3.9 GB ISO 
is housed on five different servers listed at Computers4Christians' 
website [http://computers4christians.org/Download.html] and runs live 
and/or is easily installed via DVD or USB flash drive on most any 
desktop, laptop, tower or mini-tower made in the last 10 years.


This *Christian* focused distro for 64-bit computers removes a hand full 
of default software packages from Lubuntu, but adds so many more; Bible 
Desktop, Catfish, Diatheke, FileZilla, Geany, GIMP, Gnash, GnuCash, 
Gufw, Inkscape, numlockx, LibreOffice, OpenJDK Java 11, p7zip, Pulse 
Audio Sound Control, VLC, Scribus, Systemback, Thunderbird, Verse, Wide 
Margin, Xiphos, Xpdf and XScreenSaver.


As one part of the Body of Christ, Computers4Christians (C4C) seeks to 
lead unbelievers to a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and to 
nurture believers in discipleship. See a more comprehensive list of 
Christian items included in the C4 Lubuntu ReSpin here:

http://computers4christians.org/C4C.html#christian


Thanks for Reading,
May God Bless You,
and Happy Easter!

Eric Bradshaw
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[lubuntu-users] C4C Lubuntu ReSpin18.04.2

2019-04-12 Thread Eric Bradshaw
Dear Lubuntu Users,The C4C Lubuntu ReSpin has just been updated to 18.04.2. The 
3.9 GB ISO is housed on five different servers listed at Computers4Christians' 
website [http://computers4christians.org/Download.htm] and runs live and/or is 
easily installed via DVD or USB flash drive on most any desktop, laptop, tower 
or mini-tower made in the last 10 years.This *Christian* focused distro for 
64-bit computers removes a hand full of default software packages from Lubuntu, 
but adds so many more; Bible Desktop, Catfish, Diatheke, FileZilla, Geany, 
GIMP, Gnash, GnuCash, Gufw, Inkscape, numlockx, LibreOffice, OpenJDK Java 11, 
p7zip, Pulse Audio Sound Control, VLC, Scribus, Systemback, Thunderbird, Verse, 
Wide Margin, Xiphos, Xpdf and XScreenSaver. As one part of the Body of Christ, 
Computers4Christians (C4C) seeks to lead unbelievers to a relationship with the 
Lord Jesus Christ and to nurture believers in discipleship. See a more 
comprehensive list of Christian items included in the C4 Lubuntu ReSpin here: 
http://computers4christians.org/C4C.html#christianThanks for Reading,May God 
Bless You,and Happy Easter!Eric 
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