Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:34:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:02:24 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>Trump does not actually speak english.  He speaks an archaic 13th
>>century form of german spoken only in and around what is now called
>>Kallstadt in Germany.
>>
>>You have to look really close to see it, but Donald actually wears an
>>interpreter implanted in his mouth that converts the archaic German to
>>modern english.  It's set to add lots of superlatives.
>>
>>Instead of listening to him, you could just buy an interpreter like
>>his but you'd have to get him to tell you where he got it.  It's
>>highly secret information and I probably shouldn't  have mentioned
>>it.
>
>I'm a German, but I neither speak any kind of archaic German, nor
>freakish dialects such as Hutterites, so the translater unfortunately
>doesn't work for me. I already own one, purchased by the dark web,
>payed with bitcoins.

FWIW Hutterites are using the same German vocabulary as I do, but they
are using Martian syntax, instead of German syntax.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Israel]

On 01/29/2018 12:34 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Israel  writes:
>
>> On 01/28/2018 06:40 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>> Ralf Mardorf 
>>> writes:
>>> 
>>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> This list is public, and archived for other users to browse for answers
>> to their questions.  While your discussion is interesting, it might be
>> better to correspond off-list to keep this thread clean for ease of
>> other users trying to find answers about
>>
>> " How to display all boot msgs during boot"
> Sorry... a hefty stroke of silliness overtook me.
>
> This is what works for making the boot messages display during boot:
> (Just in case anyone actually skips thru all the baloney and gets to
> here)
>
> A link with this info was already pointed to earlier:
>
> using your EDITOR_OF_CHOICE /etc/default/grub
>
> Find the line that says:
>
>   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quite splash"
>
> And edit it to say:
>
>   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
>
> Then run the command `update-grub' (which has a bit of word to do)
>
> Reboot the system and watch the boot msgs fly by.
>
>
>
No problem,

just wanted to keep the thread clean for others in the future :)

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

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Ralf Mardorf 
writes:

>> I found this German link
>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschlag_(Waffe)#Schie%C3%9Fpositionen_Faustfeuerwaffe
>>  .
>> German gun freaks seems to be behind the times regarding shooting
>> position. Actually it's not my, but your domain. Watching Hoolywood
>> movies I got the impression that it's usefull to to do a 180.
>
> Oops, it should read a 90° movement and not a 180° movement of the hand
> position.

Yeah the 180 might lead to a sudden spike in the suicide rate...

The reason they turn the guns on their side now is that it is
guaranteed to throw the empty cartridges right in your face when its
scalding hot.

In the old fashioned vertical position the shooter is always nervous
about that stray round that might drop down your collar... makes you
jumpy but if you know for certain you will get the hell burned out
of your face with every round... you can settle right down and shot
better.

In the 8 images of the Schießpositionen Faustfeuerwaffe, far left on
the second row was always my favorite but with long guns, of course.

When I was younger and when I found myself under heavy fire, before I
could get my shot off. I used to stand straight up and do Michael
Jackson style `moon walking' around in about a 12 foot circle to settle
my heart rate down (Suprised the hell out of a few machine gunners
too). Then when I laid back down, my shots would be really steady.

I could steady myself down that way so well that I once knocked over
one of those pygmy pot bellied pigs at 2.8 miles. Had to use the
Barrett .50 caliber, but me and my spotter ate some good pork for a
couple of days.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:34:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:02:24 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:  
>>Trump does not actually speak english.  He speaks an archaic 13th
>>century form of german spoken only in and around what is now called
>>Kallstadt in Germany.
>>
>>You have to look really close to see it, but Donald actually wears an
>>interpreter implanted in his mouth that converts the archaic German to
>>modern english.  It's set to add lots of superlatives.
>>
>>Instead of listening to him, you could just buy an interpreter like
>>his but you'd have to get him to tell you where he got it.  It's
>>highly secret information and I probably shouldn't  have mentioned
>>it.  
>
>I'm a German, but I neither speak any kind of archaic German, nor
>freakish dialects such as Hutterites, so the translater unfortunately
>doesn't work for me. I already own one, purchased by the dark web,
>payed with bitcoins.  

FWIW Hutterites are using the same German vocabulary as I do, but they
are using Martian syntax, instead of German syntax.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2018-01-28 at 20:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:02:24 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
> > Trump does not actually speak english.  He speaks an archaic 13th
> > century form of german spoken only in and around what is now called
> > Kallstadt in Germany.
> > 
> > You have to look really close to see it, but Donald actually wears an
> > interpreter implanted in his mouth that converts the archaic German to
> > modern english.  It's set to add lots of superlatives.
> > 
> > Instead of listening to him, you could just buy an interpreter like
> > his but you'd have to get him to tell you where he got it.  It's
> > highly secret information and I probably shouldn't  have mentioned
> > it.  
> 
> I'm a German, but I neither speak any kind of archaic German, nor
> freakish dialects such as Hutterites, so the translater unfortunately
> doesn't work for me. I already own one, purchased by the dark web,
> payed with bitcoins.
> 
> I found this German link
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschlag_(Waffe)#Schie%C3%9Fpositionen_Faustfeuerwaffe
>  .
> German gun freaks seems to be behind the times regarding shooting
> position. Actually it's not my, but your domain. Watching Hoolywood
> movies I got the impression that it's usefull to to do a 180.

Oops, it should read a 90° movement and not a 180° movement of the hand
position.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:02:24 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>Trump does not actually speak english.  He speaks an archaic 13th
>century form of german spoken only in and around what is now called
>Kallstadt in Germany.
>
>You have to look really close to see it, but Donald actually wears an
>interpreter implanted in his mouth that converts the archaic German to
>modern english.  It's set to add lots of superlatives.
>
>Instead of listening to him, you could just buy an interpreter like
>his but you'd have to get him to tell you where he got it.  It's
>highly secret information and I probably shouldn't  have mentioned
>it.  

I'm a German, but I neither speak any kind of archaic German, nor
freakish dialects such as Hutterites, so the translater unfortunately
doesn't work for me. I already own one, purchased by the dark web,
payed with bitcoins.

I found this German link
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschlag_(Waffe)#Schie%C3%9Fpositionen_Faustfeuerwaffe
 .
German gun freaks seems to be behind the times regarding shooting
position. Actually it's not my, but your domain. Watching Hoolywood
movies I got the impression that it's usefull to to do a 180.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Harry Putnam]

Ralf Mardorf 
writes:
> I like to listen to Donald Trump a lot. English isn't my native
> language, so I unfortunately still need to learn how to speak
> English less broken than I do it now. In the past it was done by books
> for children, teaching short sentences with less vocabulary, such as "my
> name is Tim", "I'm Peggy", "how are you Peggy" ... nowadays the POTUS
> does help a lot, I don't need the children learning books anymore.
> Mr. Trump's intention is just to help making English a more wide spread
> universal language. Don't be unfair! All he does is a great job!

Trump does not actually speak english.  He speaks an archaic 13th
century form of german spoken only in and around what is now called
Kallstadt in Germany.

You have to look really close to see it, but Donald actually wears an
interpreter implanted in his mouth that converts the archaic German to
modern english.  It's set to add lots of superlatives.

Instead of listening to him, you could just buy an interpreter like
his but you'd have to get him to tell you where he got it.  It's
highly secret information and I probably shouldn't  have mentioned it.



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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Harry Putnam]

Ralf Mardorf 
writes:
> PS:
>
> It must be hard for you to stand the flickering of your LCD's
> backlight, let alone the flickering of even the fastest CRT you needed
> to use a few years back.

Well, it's only a problem if I open my eyes.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 01:07:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>Ralf Mardorf 
>writes:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:  
>>>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested
>>>[about 2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>>>
>>>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me
>>>that instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>>>whistle.
>>
>> It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even
>> ifthey claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the
>> content. Who wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed"
>> and similar content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his
>> job as a sniper assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK
>> assassination? Perhaps a workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do
>> this job? Ok, if you would tell us, you would have to kill us
>> afterwards. We are ok with that.  
>
>That's a myth about having to kill folks after divulging secrets.  They
>stopped that requirement in the early 90's what they came up with was
>really prescient, as you will notice ... Folks are made to listen to
>Donald Trump for a solid 5 hours.
>
>They started out with 10 hrs but too many people were showing signs of
>PTDS.

I like to listen to Donald Trump a lot. English isn't my native
language, so I unfortunately still need to learn how to speak
English less broken than I do it now. In the past it was done by books
for children, teaching short sentences with less vocabulary, such as "my
name is Tim", "I'm Peggy", "how are you Peggy" ... nowadays the POTUS
does help a lot, I don't need the children learning books anymore.
Mr. Trump's intention is just to help making English a more wide spread
universal language. Don't be unfair! All he does is a great job!

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Harry Putnam]

Ralf Mardorf 
writes:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
>>2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>>
>>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
>>instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>>whistle.  
>
> It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even ifthey
> claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the content. Who
> wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed" and similar
> content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his job as a sniper
> assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK assassination? Perhaps a
> workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do this job? Ok, if you would
> tell us, you would have to kill us afterwards. We are ok with that.

That's a myth about having to kill folks after divulging secrets.  They
stopped that requirement in the early 90's what they came up with was
really prescient, as you will notice ... Folks are made to listen to
Donald Trump for a solid 5 hours.

They started out with 10 hrs but too many people were showing signs of
PTDS.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
>2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>
>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
>instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>whistle.  

It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even ifthey
claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the content. Who
wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed" and similar
content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his job as a sniper
assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK assassination? Perhaps a
workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do this job? Ok, if you would
tell us, you would have to kill us afterwards. We are ok with that.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Harry Putnam]

Ralf Mardorf 
writes:

> https://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-\
> screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2331376
> etc.

Thanks for that link. And I can report it does work/

> However, booting a modern Linux install from a SSD taking a look at the
> log files most of the times is more useful, than trying to follow the
> startup messages during startup ;). Actually booting my current Ubuntu
> or Arch Linux install from a SSD is that fast, that the displayed
> messages are seldom readable.

I may have a slight advantage, I've trained as a highly paid sniper
assassin for many years, and learned to watch quickly and count how
many spins per foot my .308 bullets made. ... if it was under 17, I
had to break down the rifle, get the barrel off and redo the rifling
with a very long and curved rat tail file.

It sometimes took 3 wks to get it right.  I'd try for 23 spins per
foot .. that would improve my accurace a good 24.593 percent.

I'm getting up in my 70's now so beginning to have a little trouble
telling the difference between 22.5 and 23 spins per foot... and it
makes a difference in the accuracy.

But still, during a boot up, I'm capable of freezing each line mentally
and reading it thoroughly.

Its only really about 119.2 lines per second even on the fastest SSD's.

I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.

My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended whistle.

I guess that is kind of boring for them.





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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:51:51 +, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>Hi Harry,
>
>On 27 January 2018 at 19:01, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
>> How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
>> displayed on the boot screen
>>
>> Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
>> already flew by.
>>
>> I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
>> screen.
>>
>
>The Linux Kernel has a Ring buffer of messages.
>
>To see it, try this command:-
>dmesg | less
>
>To find out more about that command try:
>man dmesg

While I always booted with shown startup messages and edited grub.cfg
directly in the past and nowadyas use syslinux, the answer to the OP's
question is provided by

https://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2331376
etc.

This is the kind of request, that usually is replied with a
http://lmgtfy.com/ link ;).

However, booting a modern Linux install from a SSD taking a look at the
log files most of the times is more useful, than trying to follow the
startup messages during startup ;). Actually booting my current Ubuntu
or Arch Linux install from a SSD is that fast, that the displayed
messages are seldom readable.

Note, I'm using a relatively modern, but slow CPU and stratup already is
too fast to read the messages. I still preffer startup messages over
eye candy as a matter of (nowadays unreasonable) principle.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Harry,

On 27 January 2018 at 19:01, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
> displayed on the boot screen
>
> Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
> already flew by.
>
> I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
> screen.
>

The Linux Kernel has a Ring buffer of messages.

To see it, try this command:-
dmesg | less

To find out more about that command try:
man dmesg

HTH,


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[lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

[Harry Putnam]

How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
displayed on the boot screen

Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
already flew by.

I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
screen. 


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