Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-05-02 Thread Fritz Hudnut
AG:

Great . . . yep, didn't seem to be an overly serious problem . . . possibly
will resolve itself the next time there is an update listed for
"chromium"  But, sometimes these small problems persist . . . such is
the nature of linux-land . . . .

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:36 PM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> On 5/1/20 7:02 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> > well anyway, I'm sure your process was done properly, I was just
> > joshing you about being "wrong" . . . because it would be so unlikely,
> > etc.  I'm sure you noticed that I logged in and out of the three DE
> > options and found "chromium" in the menu . . . we can only "hope and
> > pray" that yours shows up?
>
> I'm not sure why it doesn't show up in the menu of the LXDE desktop on
> my system, but I was able to create a desktop launcher for Chromium, so
> all is well, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-05-01 Thread Aere Greenway

On 5/1/20 7:02 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
well anyway, I'm sure your process was done properly, I was just 
joshing you about being "wrong" . . . because it would be so unlikely, 
etc.  I'm sure you noticed that I logged in and out of the three DE 
options and found "chromium" in the menu . . . we can only "hope and 
pray" that yours shows up?


I'm not sure why it doesn't show up in the menu of the LXDE desktop on 
my system, but I was able to create a desktop launcher for Chromium, so 
all is well, as far as I'm concerned.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-05-01 Thread Fritz Hudnut
AG:

Is that "bottom v top" posting really a thing?  I didn't know that . . .
well anyway, I'm sure your process was done properly, I was just joshing
you about being "wrong" . . . because it would be so unlikely, etc.  I'm
sure you noticed that I logged in and out of the three DE options and found
"chromium" in the menu . . . we can only "hope and pray" that yours shows
up?

Only other top posted offering, I mentioned synaptic because I think there
are a few different versions of "chrome" out there, and it might have been
that synaptic showed "chromium-browser" as the package in the repos??  but
I believe that whatever it was I picked that . . . whereas I think in my
other distros I might have used "apt install chromium" . . . ???

But, again, I had not previously logged into the LXDE session before your
post, so it was pre-loaded or pre-preferred . . . and chromium was there in
the menu . . . .

Trying to provide relevant data . . . I think I was running 20.04 since it
was alpha . . . really not too many issues, it's a fine release.

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:00 AM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> (See below, bottom-posted, as they request us to do)
>
> On 5/1/20 8:53 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> Aere G:
>
> 
>
> So it looks like overall the Lu 20+ install is "OK" . . . except for the
> issue with Chromium ID in the drop down menu??
>
> Having just done a couple of upgrade moves to get to 20.10 in both of my
> ubuntu distros, I do recall seeing a wiki that seemed to suggest going from
> LTS to the next LTS, in this case 18.04 . . . and then to 20.04 . . . you
> may have gone through that process, but it wasn't spelled out . . .
> **possibly** if you jumped from 16 straight outta compton to 20  that
> may have got some stuff "mishandled"
>
> Usually if there is some issue, even "bug report" level stuff, after a few
> updates they often "just disappear . . . gone . . . just like that, gone .
> . . ."
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:17 PM Aere Greenway 
> wrote:
>
>> (I posted on the bottom, below)
>>
>> On 4/30/20 4:50 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>
>> AG:
>>
>> OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I have
>> a visual listing of it . . . .  Did you run another "apt
>> update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>>
>>> Aere:
>>>
>>> I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . .
>>> . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the
>>> "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's
>>> been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it
>>> should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
>>> installed, it's "installed."
>>>
>>> All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : -
>>> )
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>> It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop.  It
>>> just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Aere
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I originally installed Lubuntu as a test system, and I kept updating it
>> to the latest version.  I'm not sure which level I started with.
>>
>> When I upgraded to Lubuntu 20.04 (in a terminal session, using "sudo
>> do-release-upgrade -d"), things seemed to be working well, and I was able
>> to install my Eclipse Java development environment, and things were working
>> well.
>>
>> My Ubuntu 20.04 upgrade (which I was thinking of switching to), didn't
>> end up with a working Eclipse development environment.
>>
>> Using the LXDE desktop on Lubuntu 20.04, I was able to even use my
>> strange color scheme, which I like a lot, and things were working in
>> Eclipse.
>>
>> So I restored my production files from 16.04 to the 20.04 system, and
>> started working with that.
>>
>> That process proceeded without many problems, so I 'transferred my flag'
>> to the new system.
>>
>> I'm just now cleaning up the last few 'rough edges'.
>>
>> The thing I like most about the new system, is that Rosegarden now loads
>> channel recording filters (which it didn't on 16.04, and LibreOffice
>> Writer, once again allows you to produce HTML files where graphics images
>> are linked-to in the HTML file, rather than forcing you to embed them as
>> data within the HTML file.
>>
>> I've been using an old copy of openSUSE Linux for editing HTML web-pages,
>> because of the need to keep the graphics images separate.  But now, I can
>> use my production system to do it once again.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably, the system I used, was a fresh-install of Lubuntu 18.10, to
> which I added my MIDI music & KeyMusician Keyboard test applications, and
> did my testing.
>
> That system was upgraded (and tested) through 19.04, 19.10 (which I set up
> to use the LXDE desktop), and finally to 20.04, recently.  The release
> notes say you can't upgrade from 18.04 to any 

Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-05-01 Thread Aere Greenway

(See below, bottom-posted, as they request us to do)

On 5/1/20 8:53 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

Aere G:



So it looks like overall the Lu 20+ install is "OK" . . . except for 
the issue with Chromium ID in the drop down menu??


Having just done a couple of upgrade moves to get to 20.10 in both of 
my ubuntu distros, I do recall seeing a wiki that seemed to suggest 
going from LTS to the next LTS, in this case 18.04 . . . and then to 
20.04 . . . you may have gone through that process, but it wasn't 
spelled out . . . **possibly** if you jumped from 16 straight outta 
compton to 20  that may have got some stuff "mishandled"


Usually if there is some issue, even "bug report" level stuff, after a 
few updates they often "just disappear . . . gone . . . just like 
that, gone . . . ."


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:17 PM Aere Greenway 
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:


(I posted on the bottom, below)

On 4/30/20 4:50 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

AG:

OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop
session I have a visual listing of it . . . .  Did you run
another "apt update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:

On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

Aere:

I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm
in 20.10 . . . I have Chromium browser installed and it is
plainly in view in the "internet" menu . . .also in the drop
down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's been so long since I did
the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it should be
there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
installed, it's "installed."

All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."
  : - )

F


It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt
desktop.  It just doesn't appear in the menu when using the
lxde desktop.

-- 
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Aere




I originally installed Lubuntu as a test system, and I kept
updating it to the latest version.  I'm not sure which level I
started with.

When I upgraded to Lubuntu 20.04 (in a terminal session, using
"sudo do-release-upgrade -d"), things seemed to be working well,
and I was able to install my Eclipse Java development environment,
and things were working well.

My Ubuntu 20.04 upgrade (which I was thinking of switching to),
didn't end up with a working Eclipse development environment.

Using the LXDE desktop on Lubuntu 20.04, I was able to even use my
strange color scheme, which I like a lot, and things were working
in Eclipse.

So I restored my production files from 16.04 to the 20.04 system,
and started working with that.

That process proceeded without many problems, so I 'transferred my
flag' to the new system.

I'm just now cleaning up the last few 'rough edges'.

The thing I like most about the new system, is that Rosegarden now
loads channel recording filters (which it didn't on 16.04, and
LibreOffice Writer, once again allows you to produce HTML files
where graphics images are linked-to in the HTML file, rather than
forcing you to embed them as data within the HTML file.

I've been using an old copy of openSUSE Linux for editing HTML
web-pages, because of the need to keep the graphics images
separate.  But now, I can use my production system to do it once
again.

-- 
Sincerely,

Aere



Probably, the system I used, was a fresh-install of Lubuntu 18.10, to 
which I added my MIDI music & KeyMusician Keyboard test applications, 
and did my testing.


That system was upgraded (and tested) through 19.04, 19.10 (which I set 
up to use the LXDE desktop), and finally to 20.04, recently.  The 
release notes say you can't upgrade from 18.04 to any of the later levels.


I took that test system, installed a lot of applications (including the 
Eclipse Java development environment, which is a snap-package), with the 
idea of evaluating it as a production system.


I then restored all my home directory files, using the Backups 
application (deja-dup) from a backup taken on my Lubuntu 16.04 system.


I installed a number of other applications I realized I needed 
(including Chromium), and started using the new system.  I tried out 
both the LXDE desktop, and the LXQT desktop.


Surprisingly, there were few problems.  Chromium not appearing in the 
menu being one of them.


I have gone nearly a week with the new system now, and am able to do all 
the things I normally do.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-05-01 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Aere G:



So it looks like overall the Lu 20+ install is "OK" . . . except for the
issue with Chromium ID in the drop down menu??

Having just done a couple of upgrade moves to get to 20.10 in both of my
ubuntu distros, I do recall seeing a wiki that seemed to suggest going from
LTS to the next LTS, in this case 18.04 . . . and then to 20.04 . . . you
may have gone through that process, but it wasn't spelled out . . .
**possibly** if you jumped from 16 straight outta compton to 20  that
may have got some stuff "mishandled"

Usually if there is some issue, even "bug report" level stuff, after a few
updates they often "just disappear . . . gone . . . just like that, gone .
. . ."

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:17 PM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> (I posted on the bottom, below)
>
> On 4/30/20 4:50 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> AG:
>
> OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I have
> a visual listing of it . . . .  Did you run another "apt
> update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install?
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway 
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>
>> Aere:
>>
>> I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . .
>> . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the
>> "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's
>> been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it
>> should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
>> installed, it's "installed."
>>
>> All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : -
>> )
>>
>> F
>>
>> It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop.  It
>> just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
>>
>>
>>
>> I originally installed Lubuntu as a test system, and I kept updating it
> to the latest version.  I'm not sure which level I started with.
>
> When I upgraded to Lubuntu 20.04 (in a terminal session, using "sudo
> do-release-upgrade -d"), things seemed to be working well, and I was able
> to install my Eclipse Java development environment, and things were working
> well.
>
> My Ubuntu 20.04 upgrade (which I was thinking of switching to), didn't end
> up with a working Eclipse development environment.
>
> Using the LXDE desktop on Lubuntu 20.04, I was able to even use my strange
> color scheme, which I like a lot, and things were working in Eclipse.
>
> So I restored my production files from 16.04 to the 20.04 system, and
> started working with that.
>
> That process proceeded without many problems, so I 'transferred my flag'
> to the new system.
>
> I'm just now cleaning up the last few 'rough edges'.
>
> The thing I like most about the new system, is that Rosegarden now loads
> channel recording filters (which it didn't on 16.04, and LibreOffice
> Writer, once again allows you to produce HTML files where graphics images
> are linked-to in the HTML file, rather than forcing you to embed them as
> data within the HTML file.
>
> I've been using an old copy of openSUSE Linux for editing HTML web-pages,
> because of the need to keep the graphics images separate.  But now, I can
> use my production system to do it once again.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-04-30 Thread Aere Greenway

(I posted on the bottom, below)

On 4/30/20 4:50 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

AG:

OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I 
have a visual listing of it . . . .  Did you run another "apt 
update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install?


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway 
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:


On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

Aere:

I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in
20.10 . . . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly
in view in the "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is
"chrome apps" . . . .  It's been so long since I did the
install,possibly through synaptics . . . it should be there, I
might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's installed, it's
"installed."

All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   :
- )

F


It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt
desktop.  It just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde
desktop.

-- 
Sincerely,

Aere



I originally installed Lubuntu as a test system, and I kept updating it 
to the latest version.  I'm not sure which level I started with.


When I upgraded to Lubuntu 20.04 (in a terminal session, using "sudo 
do-release-upgrade -d"), things seemed to be working well, and I was 
able to install my Eclipse Java development environment, and things were 
working well.


My Ubuntu 20.04 upgrade (which I was thinking of switching to), didn't 
end up with a working Eclipse development environment.


Using the LXDE desktop on Lubuntu 20.04, I was able to even use my 
strange color scheme, which I like a lot, and things were working in 
Eclipse.


So I restored my production files from 16.04 to the 20.04 system, and 
started working with that.


That process proceeded without many problems, so I 'transferred my flag' 
to the new system.


I'm just now cleaning up the last few 'rough edges'.

The thing I like most about the new system, is that Rosegarden now loads 
channel recording filters (which it didn't on 16.04, and LibreOffice 
Writer, once again allows you to produce HTML files where graphics 
images are linked-to in the HTML file, rather than forcing you to embed 
them as data within the HTML file.


I've been using an old copy of openSUSE Linux for editing HTML 
web-pages, because of the need to keep the graphics images separate.  
But now, I can use my production system to do it once again.


--
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-04-30 Thread Fritz Hudnut
AG:

OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I have a
visual listing of it . . . .  Did you run another "apt update/dist-upgrade"
subsequently to your install?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> Aere:
>
> I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . .
> I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the
> "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's
> been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it
> should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
> installed, it's "installed."
>
> All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : -
> )
>
> F
>
> It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop.  It
> just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
>
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-04-30 Thread Aere Greenway

On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

Aere:

I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . 
. . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the 
"internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  
It's been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . 
. . it should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if 
it's installed, it's "installed."


All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : - 
)


F


It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop.  It 
just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-04-30 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Aere:

>From the somewhere between 20.04 & pre-Groovy system that I have for LU, I
logged out of LXQT and logged into LXDE session, and indeed Chromium was
there in the >internet menu, I launched it . . . I logged out, and tried to
log into Openbox . . . had done an update w/o rebooting and system froze.
Restarted and logged into Openbox, and right-clicking shows
>internet>chromium in the menu . . . I picked Firefox to type this email.
Should be showing up w/o issue??

F

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM Fritz Hudnut  wrote:

> Aere:
>
> I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . .
> I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the
> "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's
> been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it
> should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
> installed, it's "installed."
>
> All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : -
> )
>
> F
>
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[lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)

2020-04-30 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Aere:

I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . .
I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the
"internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . .  It's
been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it
should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's
installed, it's "installed."

All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong."   : - )

F
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