Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hi again, *More about gnome-disks* I have checked after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb and reinstalling into the USB pendrive. Tiny Core is still booting, so a bootloader was written. Maybe, when the img extension is [automatically] selected, 'Disks' does not write any bootloader into the image, while it does make a complete bootable image, when the iso extension is [automatically] selected. I read the manual man gnome-disks but it is very brief, four options (including help). At least in Lubuntu Vivid, nothing happens when I select help from the menu, so it is not straight-forward to get detailed information, but I found this link explaining the objectives https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks It seems to be in an active development phase. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-17 07:19, Nio Wiklund skrev: Hi Andre, [Replying inline] Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 20:02, Andre Rodovalho skrev: I can't get boot when I restore a drive. Maybe because my root dir is not /dev/sda1. My first partition is a swap... Or maybe you can get a boot drive because grub was already installed on your MBR, and you restored the image on a bootable drive... I'll check what happens after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb. I do store the image as .img (default), how you got a .iso file? 'Disks' created an iso file extension by default. Maybe it recognized the ISO9660 file system. I think it was when using Lubuntu Vivid. The uncompressed result is not good, this is why I do not use to make image of /home partition. It is ok for me to store 12gb img files on my external drive, but not the /home... I do like to make /home separate, that is why I don't use OBI for this, specifically... Would it be worthwhile to make the OBI recognize and manage a home partition (to check in /etc/fstab and take action when there is a home partition)? I remember I tried to compress the generated .img file, and then restore it using a command line pipe. But I had no luck, maybe I needed to know some more specific parameters to get that done... Or would it be more useful to make a script that wraps dd into something safer and more user friendly? Or consider using rsync or fsarchiver? I can do exactly what I do with DD, and get a .gz file. But as you said, sometimes you can mess things up with DiskDestroyer... I think you have found a method that works well for your purpose :-) 2014-11-16 13:35 GMT-02:00 Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com: On 11/16/2014 08:53 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi again,i I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) +1 :) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Thankyou... 2014-11-17 10:52 GMT+00:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Hi again, *More about gnome-disks* I have checked after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb and reinstalling into the USB pendrive. Tiny Core is still booting, so a bootloader was written. Maybe, when the img extension is [automatically] selected, 'Disks' does not write any bootloader into the image, while it does make a complete bootable image, when the iso extension is [automatically] selected. I read the manual man gnome-disks but it is very brief, four options (including help). At least in Lubuntu Vivid, nothing happens when I select help from the menu, so it is not straight-forward to get detailed information, but I found this link explaining the objectives https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks It seems to be in an active development phase. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-17 07:19, Nio Wiklund skrev: Hi Andre, [Replying inline] Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 20:02, Andre Rodovalho skrev: I can't get boot when I restore a drive. Maybe because my root dir is not /dev/sda1. My first partition is a swap... Or maybe you can get a boot drive because grub was already installed on your MBR, and you restored the image on a bootable drive... I'll check what happens after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb. I do store the image as .img (default), how you got a .iso file? 'Disks' created an iso file extension by default. Maybe it recognized the ISO9660 file system. I think it was when using Lubuntu Vivid. The uncompressed result is not good, this is why I do not use to make image of /home partition. It is ok for me to store 12gb img files on my external drive, but not the /home... I do like to make /home separate, that is why I don't use OBI for this, specifically... Would it be worthwhile to make the OBI recognize and manage a home partition (to check in /etc/fstab and take action when there is a home partition)? I remember I tried to compress the generated .img file, and then restore it using a command line pipe. But I had no luck, maybe I needed to know some more specific parameters to get that done... Or would it be more useful to make a script that wraps dd into something safer and more user friendly? Or consider using rsync or fsarchiver? I can do exactly what I do with DD, and get a .gz file. But as you said, sometimes you can mess things up with DiskDestroyer... I think you have found a method that works well for your purpose :-) 2014-11-16 13:35 GMT-02:00 Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com: On 11/16/2014 08:53 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi again,i I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) +1 :) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto: Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) Kindest Regards, Phill. On 17 November 2014 12:57, Andre Rodovalho andre.rodova...@gmail.com wrote: Thankyou... 2014-11-17 10:52 GMT+00:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Hi again, *More about gnome-disks* I have checked after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb and reinstalling into the USB pendrive. Tiny Core is still booting, so a bootloader was written. Maybe, when the img extension is [automatically] selected, 'Disks' does not write any bootloader into the image, while it does make a complete bootable image, when the iso extension is [automatically] selected. I read the manual man gnome-disks but it is very brief, four options (including help). At least in Lubuntu Vivid, nothing happens when I select help from the menu, so it is not straight-forward to get detailed information, but I found this link explaining the objectives https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks It seems to be in an active development phase. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-17 07:19, Nio Wiklund skrev: Hi Andre, [Replying inline] Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 20:02, Andre Rodovalho skrev: I can't get boot when I restore a drive. Maybe because my root dir is not /dev/sda1. My first partition is a swap... Or maybe you can get a boot drive because grub was already installed on your MBR, and you restored the image on a bootable drive... I'll check what happens after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb. I do store the image as .img (default), how you got a .iso file? 'Disks' created an iso file extension by default. Maybe it recognized the ISO9660 file system. I think it was when using Lubuntu Vivid. The uncompressed result is not good, this is why I do not use to make image of /home partition. It is ok for me to store 12gb img files on my external drive, but not the /home... I do like to make /home separate, that is why I don't use OBI for this, specifically... Would it be worthwhile to make the OBI recognize and manage a home partition (to check in /etc/fstab and take action when there is a home partition)? I remember I tried to compress the generated .img file, and then restore it using a command line pipe. But I had no luck, maybe I needed to know some more specific parameters to get that done... Or would it be more useful to make a script that wraps dd into something safer and more user friendly? Or consider using rsync or fsarchiver? I can do exactly what I do with DD, and get a .gz file. But as you said, sometimes you can mess things up with DiskDestroyer... I think you have found a method that works well for your purpose :-) 2014-11-16 13:35 GMT-02:00 Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com: On 11/16/2014 08:53 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi again,i I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) +1 :) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hi, On 17 November 2014 13:04, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) In the words of GNU make... ian@rutherford:~$ make it so make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. ian@rutherford:~$ BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- Free Software page - http://contactmorpeth.wikispaces.com/SoftwareToolkit -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Nio, it's quite okay, I do enjoy watching a project develop... even more so when it requires little from me to keep it going. So, don't drop me from having cc's of discussions - My comment was in jest! Kindest Regards, Phill. On 17 November 2014 13:09, Ian Bruntlett ian.bruntl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 17 November 2014 13:04, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) In the words of GNU make... ian@rutherford:~$ make it so make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. ian@rutherford:~$ BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- Free Software page - http://contactmorpeth.wikispaces.com/SoftwareToolkit -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
:-D Den 2014-11-17 14:18, Phill Whiteside skrev: Nio, it's quite okay, I do enjoy watching a project develop... even more so when it requires little from me to keep it going. So, don't drop me from having cc's of discussions - My comment was in jest! Kindest Regards, Phill. On 17 November 2014 13:09, Ian Bruntlett ian.bruntl...@gmail.com mailto:ian.bruntl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 17 November 2014 13:04, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net mailto:phi...@phillw.net wrote: I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) In the words of GNU make... ian@rutherford:~$ make it so make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. ian@rutherford:~$ BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- Free Software page - http://contactmorpeth.wikispaces.com/SoftwareToolkit -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
HAHAHA :D On 11/17/2014 07:09 AM, Ian Bruntlett wrote: Hi, On 17 November 2014 13:04, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net mailto:phi...@phillw.net wrote: I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) In the words of GNU make... ian@rutherford:~$ make it so make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. ian@rutherford:~$ BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- Free Software page - http://contactmorpeth.wikispaces.com/SoftwareToolkit -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hey, Oh wait... maybe you meant: make it.so :) On 11/17/2014 07:09 AM, Ian Bruntlett wrote: Hi, On 17 November 2014 13:04, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net mailto:phi...@phillw.net wrote: I take it that this is an attempt to blow my brain up? :P In the words of Jon Luc Piccard make it so... aka, get it done :) In the words of GNU make... ian@rutherford:~$ make it so make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. ian@rutherford:~$ BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- Free Software page - http://contactmorpeth.wikispaces.com/SoftwareToolkit -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Yes, I guess gnome-disks use something similiar as dd to clone and restore disks. I use it to make some replication on the company I work. It is very simple and functional. I do not use .iso images. I have a backup (root partition) made from an existing installation I made and tweaked. So, with that disk image I can restore on other disks, the only thing I need to do further is to install grub2 on the restored disk... I do not have an image of the home partition. I have the files compressed in a .tar.gz file. When I create a new disk install, I do a swap and home partition compatible with disk space and machine configuration. Then just extract those user files into /home 2014-11-16 4:36 GMT-02:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Den 2014-11-15 22:01, Jerry skrev: I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net Hi Jerry, Do you think that this method via the Disks tool is using dd (or a similar cloning process) under the hood? So that it has actually merged the task of mkusb into an existing Ubuntu tool :-) Let us check if the interface is good enough to help people avoid destroying data on an internal drive by mistake. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hi Andre, Nice method :-) I recognize some characteristics like mkusb - dd - cloning and some characteristics like the OBI and its tarballs. Are you using any OEM install feature too? Linux has so many options and possibilities. I think we should look more into this cloning feature of gnome-disks. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 13:47, Andre Rodovalho skrev: Yes, I guess gnome-disks use something similiar as dd to clone and restore disks. I use it to make some replication on the company I work. It is very simple and functional. I do not use .iso images. I have a backup (root partition) made from an existing installation I made and tweaked. So, with that disk image I can restore on other disks, the only thing I need to do further is to install grub2 on the restored disk... I do not have an image of the home partition. I have the files compressed in a .tar.gz file. When I create a new disk install, I do a swap and home partition compatible with disk space and machine configuration. Then just extract those user files into /home 2014-11-16 4:36 GMT-02:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Den 2014-11-15 22:01, Jerry skrev: I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net mailto:jerryla...@netscape.net Hi Jerry, Do you think that this method via the Disks tool is using dd (or a similar cloning process) under the hood? So that it has actually merged the task of mkusb into an existing Ubuntu tool :-) Let us check if the interface is good enough to help people avoid destroying data on an internal drive by mistake. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hello Nio, I don't use any OEM feature. My install includes printer drivers and configuration, and also some shortcuts to software we use there. So, when I recover, I just change the hostname and password if needed. All user names are the same, it is easier for me to access the machines over ssh... 2014-11-16 11:14 GMT-02:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Hi Andre, Nice method :-) I recognize some characteristics like mkusb - dd - cloning and some characteristics like the OBI and its tarballs. Are you using any OEM install feature too? Linux has so many options and possibilities. I think we should look more into this cloning feature of gnome-disks. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 13:47, Andre Rodovalho skrev: Yes, I guess gnome-disks use something similiar as dd to clone and restore disks. I use it to make some replication on the company I work. It is very simple and functional. I do not use .iso images. I have a backup (root partition) made from an existing installation I made and tweaked. So, with that disk image I can restore on other disks, the only thing I need to do further is to install grub2 on the restored disk... I do not have an image of the home partition. I have the files compressed in a .tar.gz file. When I create a new disk install, I do a swap and home partition compatible with disk space and machine configuration. Then just extract those user files into /home 2014-11-16 4:36 GMT-02:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Den 2014-11-15 22:01, Jerry skrev: I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net mailto:jerryla...@netscape.net Hi Jerry, Do you think that this method via the Disks tool is using dd (or a similar cloning process) under the hood? So that it has actually merged the task of mkusb into an existing Ubuntu tool :-) Let us check if the interface is good enough to help people avoid destroying data on an internal drive by mistake. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto: Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hi again, I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 14:14, Nio Wiklund skrev: Hi Andre, Nice method :-) I recognize some characteristics like mkusb - dd - cloning and some characteristics like the OBI and its tarballs. Are you using any OEM install feature too? Linux has so many options and possibilities. I think we should look more into this cloning feature of gnome-disks. Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 13:47, Andre Rodovalho skrev: Yes, I guess gnome-disks use something similiar as dd to clone and restore disks. I use it to make some replication on the company I work. It is very simple and functional. I do not use .iso images. I have a backup (root partition) made from an existing installation I made and tweaked. So, with that disk image I can restore on other disks, the only thing I need to do further is to install grub2 on the restored disk... I do not have an image of the home partition. I have the files compressed in a .tar.gz file. When I create a new disk install, I do a swap and home partition compatible with disk space and machine configuration. Then just extract those user files into /home 2014-11-16 4:36 GMT-02:00 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com: Den 2014-11-15 22:01, Jerry skrev: I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net mailto:jerryla...@netscape.net Hi Jerry, Do you think that this method via the Disks tool is using dd (or a similar cloning process) under the hood? So that it has actually merged the task of mkusb into an existing Ubuntu tool :-) Let us check if the interface is good enough to help people avoid destroying data on an internal drive by mistake. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
I can't get boot when I restore a drive. Maybe because my root dir is not /dev/sda1. My first partition is a swap... Or maybe you can get a boot drive because grub was already installed on your MBR, and you restored the image on a bootable drive... I do store the image as .img (default), how you got a .iso file? The uncompressed result is not good, this is why I do not use to make image of /home partition. It is ok for me to store 12gb img files on my external drive, but not the /home... I do like to make /home separate, that is why I don't use OBI for this, specifically... I remember I tried to compress the generated .img file, and then restore it using a command line pipe. But I had no luck, maybe I needed to know some more specific parameters to get that done... I can do exactly what I do with DD, and get a .gz file. But as you said, sometimes you can mess things up with DiskDestroyer... 2014-11-16 13:35 GMT-02:00 Israel israeld...@gmail.com: On 11/16/2014 08:53 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi again, I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) +1 :) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Hi Andre, [Replying inline] Best regards Nio Den 2014-11-16 20:02, Andre Rodovalho skrev: I can't get boot when I restore a drive. Maybe because my root dir is not /dev/sda1. My first partition is a swap... Or maybe you can get a boot drive because grub was already installed on your MBR, and you restored the image on a bootable drive... I'll check what happens after wiping the first megabyte with mkusb. I do store the image as .img (default), how you got a .iso file? 'Disks' created an iso file extension by default. Maybe it recognized the ISO9660 file system. I think it was when using Lubuntu Vivid. The uncompressed result is not good, this is why I do not use to make image of /home partition. It is ok for me to store 12gb img files on my external drive, but not the /home... I do like to make /home separate, that is why I don't use OBI for this, specifically... Would it be worthwhile to make the OBI recognize and manage a home partition (to check in /etc/fstab and take action when there is a home partition)? I remember I tried to compress the generated .img file, and then restore it using a command line pipe. But I had no luck, maybe I needed to know some more specific parameters to get that done... Or would it be more useful to make a script that wraps dd into something safer and more user friendly? Or consider using rsync or fsarchiver? I can do exactly what I do with DD, and get a .gz file. But as you said, sometimes you can mess things up with DiskDestroyer... I think you have found a method that works well for your purpose :-) 2014-11-16 13:35 GMT-02:00 Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com: On 11/16/2014 08:53 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi again, I've tried 'Disks' alias gnome-disks in Lubuntu 14.04.1 and Vivid. I could make it create an iso file from a partition, but not from the whole drive. Trying from the whole drive gave me an error both running as a regular user and with sudo. (I tested with a Tiny Core iso file, which is small so it was fast.) When I restored from the image of the partition I got a working boot drive. (I cloned the Ubuntu mini.iso in between so that the pendrive was changed.) I think this is not logical (and not corresponding to how dd is used). Restoring a partition should not restore the whole drive, but I guess it is intended to work this way. I could make it flash, clone alias 'restore' a boot USB drive from another iso file (I tested with the Ubuntu mini.iso (because it is small so it was fast). -o- Conclusion: I'm glad that I learned about this feature of 'Disks'. It is certainly possible to use in order to make a USB boot drive. There is an extra 'final warning window', so it should be safe enough to use. And best of all, it offers a working solution, when the Startup Disk Creator suffers from a really bad bug (# 1325801) plus several minor bugs. -o- But of course, I still think that my mkusb is better ;-) +1 :) One important extra feature of mkusb is the ability to use general compressed image files (an iso file often contains the compressed container squashfs, but is not itself compressed). Another extra feature of mkusb is the ability to check if the content of the iso file matches that of the pendrive, and suggest updating for iso-testing. And there are several informative windows including a final warning with red background. Best regards Nio -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: mkusb PPAs for vivid (Phill Whiteside)
Den 2014-11-15 22:01, Jerry skrev: I've been having good results with the Disks tool started by the top icon in the launcher. Start it up, plug in your USB stick, then restore the disk image from your .iso. As usual, careful, read the messages Seems to obliterate whatever was on the USB stick I haven't had to format. Disks even worked with the distro LXLE an alternative to Lubuntu. I pretty much stick with Unity and Lubuntu with occasional samples of Next, LXLE, wattOS, chromebook, tablet, etc. JerryLA jerryla...@netscape.net Hi Jerry, Do you think that this method via the Disks tool is using dd (or a similar cloning process) under the hood? So that it has actually merged the task of mkusb into an existing Ubuntu tool :-) Let us check if the interface is good enough to help people avoid destroying data on an internal drive by mistake. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
