Re: [lubuntu-users] Back to Kindergarten
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 05:33:53AM +, Chris Schram wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:47:50AM +, Chris Schram wrote: > >> inscrutable names under System Tools and Preferences I know that in previous versions we simplified the language by using functional names rather than the names of the software themselves. That might not be a terrible thing to do. > Software Updater for one. However I was able to install it later. You mean a package manager? Because there's both Muon (similar to Synaptic) and Discover (which is a more flashy software center— I won't say "store"— sort of thing). > OK, pcmanfm-qt is the File Manager. I get that. Where is the command > that lets me display the Trash and volumes. on my desktop? I think I'm tired. I misread your issue or misunderstood it. And I just learned something about the Trash. The long story short is this: currently pcmanfm-qt only supports the display of contents inside the Desktop folder. Trash is not one of them and you can't really move it there. This applies to anything that's not a folder or a file inside the Desktop folder. There's been a long, ongoing discussion about this that ha been updated as recently as 23 days ago, having first been discussed almost 3 years ago. [Recent comments][1] seem to suggest that this may be easy to solve simply with some .desktop files. That's something that we could even provide even if upstream does not. It does require, at minimum, an [upstream patch][2] that has not made it into a released version yet. I'll have to do some tests to see if that's the case and I'll report back here. [1]: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/812#issuecomment-425593806 [2]: https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/db853ea4966e29492711f6a582d1961d2d7faa39 -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] Trash icon
Hi all Granted I am currently using Debian + LXDE however I have noticed the following:- On the desktop the wastebasket is labeled as 'wastebasket' if you right click you get 'empty rubbish bin' In desktop preferences app you get show Trash Can on desktop Not sure if this happens on Lubuntu, but I think there needs to be some sort of consistency in naming here. I just wondered if this was common to lxde, or is it the way debian lxde is set up. Paul -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/zleap/ Friendi.ca :zl...@social.isurf.ca Skype: psutton111 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] lubuntu 32-bit 18.10
Hi Walter, On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 07:05, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Which leaves me a little baffled. I need to do some more research on > this. Could you file a bug against calamares so I can track this and > otherwise keep everyone updated? Bonus points if you do it on bare > metal. > I am under the weather - nursing a cold and not feeling so clever. How do I go about filing a bug against calamares? I always do tests on bare metal. I'm sure there's a joke hiding in that sentence :) BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Released!
On 2018-10-22 10:52, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 10/21/18 10:13 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On 10/20/18 2:13 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: > 3. On past levels of Lubuntu, Thunderbird Mail was the e-mail > client. >> Nope, it was always Sylpheed. > The potential problem, is that if it won't run on Lubuntu Not a problem at all. Any package in the repositories should work just fine. The only problem with Thunderbird (and any other GTK app) is that it's likely to bring a bunch of libraries along with it. > Do snap package installations work on Lubuntu? The important thing to remember here is the sentiment behind the statement above: Lubuntu *IS* Ubuntu. Ubuntu, ultimately, is the software in the repositories. The thing that makes the canonical (here the lowercase is intentional) Ubuntu OS what it is is a particular selection of packages. This is also true with Lubuntu and every other flavor of Ubuntu. But they all have the repositories in common. That said, you can most certainly install a snap package. There are those in the Lubuntu team that have been a little resistant to the idea of snaps, in particular the extra overhead required by `snapd` so we [blacklist it][1] by default, but by some stroke of luck it ended up on the images and installed systems anyways, so have at it. ☺ [1]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/?grep=snap -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Released!
it seems to be a good idea for me... I'll try it and then I'll tell you if this is an available method... thanks (thumbs up) --- Ludwig Causilla Leyva Ing. en Ciencias Informáticas. Administrador de Red en JCCE Abreus 2 teléfono: 540 348 El 2018-10-21 12:12, Israel escribió: > On 10/21/18 8:13 AM, Ludwig Causilla Leyva wrote: > >> Estoy intentando descargar la nueva versión de Lubuntu 18.10 con LXQt para >> arquitectura 32 bit y por restricciones dentro de mi red no me deja >> descargar mas de 10 MB en un solo archivo, ¿puede alguien hacerme el favor >> de poner el iso de 32 bit de Lubuntu 18.10 en MEGA o cualquier otro lugar >> que permita descargas por stream? Gracias de antemano >> >> I´m trying to download the new Lubuntu 18.10 version with LXQt for the 32 >> bit architecture but... Because the restricctions of my Work´s network >> (where i´m trying to download) Only less than 10 MB files are allowed to >> downloaded, ¿Can someone put the 32 bit arch ISO on any plataform that allow >> stream download (Perhaps MEGA o something similar)? I´ll give you my >> gratitud and grettings from Cuba... >> >> --- >> Ludwig Causilla Leyva >> Ing. en Ciencias Informáticas. >> Administrador de Red en JCCE Abreus 2 >> teléfono: 540 348 > > Hi, > > Have you tried using the torrent option [1]? Or perhaps using zsync [2] > would work. With zsync you could download 10MB and then restart the download > once it fails. > > Something like: #!/bin/bash > iter=1 > while ! zsync > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/cosmic/release/lubuntu-18.10-desktop-i386.iso.zsync > do > iter=$(( iter + 1 )) > echo "Try #$iter" > [[ -f lubuntu-18.10-desktop-i386.iso ]] && ls -lah > lubuntu-18.10-desktop-i386.iso > done > > This will automatically try to zsync repeatedly, until it fully finishes. > > You will have to CTRL+C to stop it if you need to (or close the terminal > window) > > However this will not work in windows, unless, perhaps you use WSL though I > have never used WSL and cannot actually confirm it. > > -- > Regards Links: -- [1] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/cosmic/release/lubuntu-18.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage-- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Released!
On 10/22/18 12:54 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On 2018-10-22 10:52, Aere Greenway wrote: On 10/21/18 10:13 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On 10/20/18 2:13 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: 3. On past levels of Lubuntu, Thunderbird Mail was the e-mail client. Nope, it was always Sylpheed. The potential problem, is that if it won't run on Lubuntu Not a problem at all. Any package in the repositories should work just fine. The only problem with Thunderbird (and any other GTK app) is that it's likely to bring a bunch of libraries along with it. Do snap package installations work on Lubuntu? The important thing to remember here is the sentiment behind the statement above: Lubuntu *IS* Ubuntu. Ubuntu, ultimately, is the software in the repositories. The thing that makes the canonical (here the lowercase is intentional) Ubuntu OS what it is is a particular selection of packages. This is also true with Lubuntu and every other flavor of Ubuntu. But they all have the repositories in common. That said, you can most certainly install a snap package. There are those in the Lubuntu team that have been a little resistant to the idea of snaps, in particular the extra overhead required by `snapd` so we [blacklist it][1] by default, but by some stroke of luck it ended up on the images and installed systems anyways, so have at it. ☺ [1]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/?grep=snap Thanks. Both answers will work for me. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 82, Issue 15
> > > >> Nope, it was always Sylpheed. > > The potential problem, is that if it won't run on Lubuntu > > Not a problem at all. Any package in the repositories should work just > fine. The only problem with Thunderbird (and any other GTK app) is that > it's likely to bring a bunch of libraries along with it. > > > Do snap package installations work on Lubuntu? > > The important thing to remember here is the sentiment behind the > statement above: Lubuntu *IS* Ubuntu. Ubuntu, ultimately, is the > software in the repositories. The thing that makes the canonical (here > the lowercase is intentional) Ubuntu OS what it is is a particular > selection of packages. This is also true with Lubuntu and every other > flavor of Ubuntu. But they all have the repositories in common. > > > @AG: Just to add the comment . . . I had a fresh install of Lu Next **highly experimental OS** 18.04 installed, and then went against the suggested method of doing a fresh upgrade for Lu 18.10, and **experimentally** upgraded the unsupported 18.04 via console update/upgrade to what is now an **unrecommended** Lu 18.10 system . . . and somewhere in there Thunderbird Mail has appeared and is functioning perfectly well . . . . As Walter mentions that may have added "bloat" into the libraries of my install . . . nothing wrong with Sylpheed, but, I just like TB . . . . F -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 82, Issue 15
On 10/22/18 4:25 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > > > > >> Nope, it was always Sylpheed. > > The potential problem, is that if it won't run on Lubuntu > > Not a problem at all. Any package in the repositories should work just > fine. The only problem with Thunderbird (and any other GTK app) is > that > it's likely to bring a bunch of libraries along with it. > > > Do snap package installations work on Lubuntu? > > The important thing to remember here is the sentiment behind the > statement above: Lubuntu *IS* Ubuntu. Ubuntu, ultimately, is the > software in the repositories. The thing that makes the canonical (here > the lowercase is intentional) Ubuntu OS what it is is a particular > selection of packages. This is also true with Lubuntu and every other > flavor of Ubuntu. But they all have the repositories in common. > > > @AG: > > Just to add the comment . . . I had a fresh install of Lu Next > **highly experimental OS** 18.04 installed, and then went against the > suggested method of doing a fresh upgrade for Lu 18.10, and > **experimentally** upgraded the unsupported 18.04 via console > update/upgrade to what is now an **unrecommended** Lu 18.10 system . . > . and somewhere in there Thunderbird Mail has appeared and is > functioning perfectly well . . . . As Walter mentions that may have > added "bloat" into the libraries of my install . . . nothing wrong > with Sylpheed, but, I just like TB . . . . > > F > FWIW I have LXQt in 18.04 with a bunch of GTK apps, as well as a few other DE/WM setups, and GTK apps (such as thunderbird) work just fine. Qt apps are, of course preferred. I also have a KDE Neon machine which uses Thunderbird and it works perfectly there. And on the other side VLC is a Qt app and is used in a lot of GTK DE and works well. So you can easily install and run ANY familiar app in the repos, though you will also install the libraries to run the graphical toolkit. I make/use a lot of FLTK based apps in the same environment with Qt and GTK apps and all work well together. -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] lubuntu 32-bit 18.10
On 2018-10-22 03:35, Ian Bruntlett wrote: > How do I go about filing a bug against calamares? Same way you file bugs against anything else: `ubuntu-bug `**package_name** So in this case, `ubuntu-bug calamares`. More information on reporting bugs in general can be found on [our wiki][1]. [1]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Released!
On 10/21/18 10:13 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On 10/20/18 2:13 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: 1. I usually test 32-bit systems first. I noticed that a 32-bit DVD or USB would go a very long time without booting on a machine with 64-bit hardware. This might be a kernel issue. Since Xubuntu and Lubuntu are the only flavors supporting 32 bit, I wouldn't be surprised. Might want to dig through syslog and dmesg and see if there are any errors. Do you have the same problem in a virtual machine? 3. On past levels of Lubuntu, Thunderbird Mail was the e-mail client. Nope, it was always Sylpheed. My guess is you installed Thunderbird and as you upgraded it remained there. Don't believe me? Look for Thunderbird under the list of dependencies for the [bionic lubuntu-desktop package][1]. It's not there. But Sylpheed is. [1]: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lubuntu-desktop Walter: Thank you for your comments. I will do my Xubuntu testing today. My question about Thunderbird mail, is not that it isn't the recommended mail client. The potential problem, is that if it won't run on Lubuntu 18.10 (actually, on Lubuntu 19.04), I will have to use a different distribution (such as Ubuntu or Xubuntu) for my production system. Which brings to mind another question. The latest version of the Eclipse integrated development environment, can only be installed as a snap package. Do snap package installations work on Lubuntu? - Aere -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
