Re: Custom filters document numbers

2005-03-01 Thread tomsdepot-lucene
I'm also interested in knowing what can change the doc numbers.

Does this happen frequently?  Like Stanislav has been asking... what sort of
operations on the index cause the document number to change for any given
document?  If the document numbers change frequently, is there a
straightforward way to modify Lucene to keep the document numbers the same for
the life of the document?  I'd like to have mappings in my sql database that
point to the document numbers that Lucene search returns in its Hits objects.

Thanks,

-Tom-

--- Stanislav Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The first statement is clear to me:
 I know that an IndexReader sees a 'snapshot' of the document set that was
 taken in the moment of the Reader's creation.
 
 What I don't know is whether this 'snapshot' has also its doc numbers fixed
 or they may change asynchronously.
 And another thing I don't know is what are the index operations that may
 cause the (doc - doc number) mapping to change.
 Is it only after delete or there are other ocasions, or I'd better not count
 on this at all.
 
 StJ
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Vanlerberghe, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Lucene Users List lucene-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:07 PM
 Subject: RE: Custom filters  document numbers
 
 
  An IndexReader will always see the same set of documents.
  Even if another process deletes some documents, adds new ones or
  optimizes the complete index, your IndexReader instance will not see
  those changes.
 
  If you detect that the Lucene index changed (e.g. by calling
  IndexReader.getCurrentVersion(...) once in a while), you should close
  and reopen your 'current' IndexReader and recalculate any data that
  relies on the Lucene document numbers.
 
  Regards, Luc.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stanislav Jordanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: donderdag 24 februari 2005 14:18
  To: Lucene Users List
  Subject: Custom filters  document numbers
 
  Given an IndexReader a custom filter is supposed to create a bit set,
  that maps each document numbers to {'visible', 'invisible'} On the other
  hand, it is stated that Lucene is allowed to change document numbers.
  Is it guaranteed that this BitSet's view of document numbers won't
  change while the BitSet is still in use (or perhaps the corresponding
  IndexReader is still opened) ?
 
  And another (more low-level) question.
  When Lucene may change document numbers?
  Is it only when the index is optimized after there has been a delete
  operation?
 
  Regards: StJ
 
 
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RE: Custom filters document numbers

2005-02-24 Thread Vanlerberghe, Luc
An IndexReader will always see the same set of documents.
Even if another process deletes some documents, adds new ones or
optimizes the complete index, your IndexReader instance will not see
those changes.

If you detect that the Lucene index changed (e.g. by calling
IndexReader.getCurrentVersion(...) once in a while), you should close
and reopen your 'current' IndexReader and recalculate any data that
relies on the Lucene document numbers.

Regards, Luc.

-Original Message-
From: Stanislav Jordanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 24 februari 2005 14:18
To: Lucene Users List
Subject: Custom filters  document numbers

Given an IndexReader a custom filter is supposed to create a bit set,
that maps each document numbers to {'visible', 'invisible'} On the other
hand, it is stated that Lucene is allowed to change document numbers.
Is it guaranteed that this BitSet's view of document numbers won't
change while the BitSet is still in use (or perhaps the corresponding
IndexReader is still opened) ?

And another (more low-level) question.
When Lucene may change document numbers?
Is it only when the index is optimized after there has been a delete
operation?

Regards: StJ


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Re: Custom filters document numbers

2005-02-24 Thread Stanislav Jordanov
The first statement is clear to me:
I know that an IndexReader sees a 'snapshot' of the document set that was
taken in the moment of the Reader's creation.

What I don't know is whether this 'snapshot' has also its doc numbers fixed
or they may change asynchronously.
And another thing I don't know is what are the index operations that may
cause the (doc - doc number) mapping to change.
Is it only after delete or there are other ocasions, or I'd better not count
on this at all.

StJ

- Original Message - 
From: Vanlerberghe, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lucene Users List lucene-user@jakarta.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Custom filters  document numbers


 An IndexReader will always see the same set of documents.
 Even if another process deletes some documents, adds new ones or
 optimizes the complete index, your IndexReader instance will not see
 those changes.

 If you detect that the Lucene index changed (e.g. by calling
 IndexReader.getCurrentVersion(...) once in a while), you should close
 and reopen your 'current' IndexReader and recalculate any data that
 relies on the Lucene document numbers.

 Regards, Luc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Stanislav Jordanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: donderdag 24 februari 2005 14:18
 To: Lucene Users List
 Subject: Custom filters  document numbers

 Given an IndexReader a custom filter is supposed to create a bit set,
 that maps each document numbers to {'visible', 'invisible'} On the other
 hand, it is stated that Lucene is allowed to change document numbers.
 Is it guaranteed that this BitSet's view of document numbers won't
 change while the BitSet is still in use (or perhaps the corresponding
 IndexReader is still opened) ?

 And another (more low-level) question.
 When Lucene may change document numbers?
 Is it only when the index is optimized after there has been a delete
 operation?

 Regards: StJ


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