Re: lug-bg: mail client

2004-02-12 Thread Damyan Ivanov
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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev
Chestno kazano twyrde mnogo se symniawam che se zanuliawa cialoto 
prostranstwo na fajla pri delete, naj-malkoto shte e twyrde bawno. Imaj 
predwid, che pri takyw scenarij pri iztriwane na file ~600MB, towa na 
praktika shte wodi do zapis na ~600MB na diska, koeto e absurd. Oswen 
towa ne zabrawiaj che mozhesh da si ja montirash kato ext2, rabotish si 
s neja s toolowete /syshtoto towa rm/ s koito rabotish i sys ext2, 
Naistina si mislia che w sluchaja podozrenijata ti ne sa osnowatelni.

Plamen Tonev wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:57:43 +
Elin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail 
greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 
natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES


ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete i njama kak da gi vyrnesh. Za ext2 pyk si ima razlichni toolove, koito vyrshat edna i syshta rabota. Btw ne polzvam mc no mislja che daje toi si imashe undelete za ext2.



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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Alexander Popov


Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
Doncho Angelov wrote:

Elin wrote:


hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux


tar -zxf   ,.tgz

.
 -  !
  ext2 ext3  ,  
,   
, 
,   

  
  
rm
 

   rm  $PATH.

 :)
Towa e dobra ideq. Kato che li she e naj chistiq i byrz wariant. Kato mi 
ostane malko wreme mozhe da si poigraq da go naprawq

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Re: lug-bg: Mach

2004-02-12 Thread Alexander Popov
Bozhan,
kato gledam realno startup page-a e
http://free.top.bg/bugar/OS/web/mach.html
Atanase,

Ne sym go prochel oshte no kato gledam kolko rabota si swyrshil - Evala! 
:)))

Bozhan Bozhkov wrote:
 11 02 2004 18:36,   :


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Re: lug-bg: mail client

2004-02-12 Thread Alexander Popov
Az lichno bih ti preporychal claws versiqta - ima dosta neshta koito sa 
strashno udobni i gi nqma (sylpheed)

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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Alexander Popov
mislq che e se taq dali she gi razkarash s mc ili na ryka
maj nqma da stane nomera s undelet-waneto
Elin wrote:
10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail 
greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 
natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES

Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:

Doncho Angelov wrote:

Elin wrote:


hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux




tar -zxf   ,.tgz

.
 -  !
  ext2 ext3  ,  
,   
, 
,   

 
   
rm

 
   rm  $PATH.

 :)
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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Doncho N. Gunchev
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 17:29, Elin wrote:
 hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux
 
Ima proekt libtrash - http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtrash/

Mislq imashe pone oshte edno podobno reshenie, no towa weche e stable :)

Za razlika ot funktziqta na mc (Midnight Commander) za undelete na
ext2/ext3, towa ne e swyrzano izobshto s tipa na failowata sistema.
Midnight Commander ima tazi funktziq ot mnogo wreme, no po podrazbirane
ne e wkliuchena. Ot sobstwen opit, wyzstanovwqwaneto e tolkowa neweroqtno
che ne si struwa opitite ako po diska e zapisan/dopylnen dori edin fail...

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Re[3]: lug-bg: Register AS in RIPE

2004-02-12 Thread Ivo Ivanov
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 10:12:43 PM, you wrote:





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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev
LKM-HOWTO- :)

Alexander Popov wrote:


Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:

Doncho Angelov wrote:

Elin wrote:


hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux




tar -zxf   ,.tgz

.
 -  !
  ext2 ext3  ,  
,   
, 
,   

 
   
rm

 
   rm  $PATH.

 :)


Towa e dobra ideq. Kato che li she e naj chistiq i byrz wariant. Kato mi 
ostane malko wreme mozhe da si poigraq da go naprawq

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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:42, Minko Markov wrote:
 --- Plamen Tonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a,
  ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete  

 Kakvo znachi zanulyava, prezapisva sektorite s nuli?

 Tova ne e verno,  ponezhe mozhe da ima nyakolko
 hard linka kqm fayla i togava rm prosto maha edin ot linkovete.

syglasen. stoto ext3 v vsy4kite si tri rejima vinagi goni da sync-va data-ta v 
main fs-a, osven v journal file-a. Pone az ne vijdam kak moje da se hvane 
ex3 kernel driver-a v mode=ordered (default) v systoqnie kogato sled rm da e 
ostanalo nesto ot iztritiq file.

 Ako ima samo edin hard link, *mislya*, che rm pak ne trie samite
 sektori na sqdqrzhanieto, a gi markira kato svobodni. Az sqm na
 ext3fs i iztrivane na film ot 700MB stava prakticheski momentalno,
 s minimalna aktivnost na diska. Ako go prezapisvashe s nuli,
 shteshe da e dosta po-dqlgo -- sqdya po tova, kolko otnema da
 se napravi cp ili mv na takqv file i kolko shumi diska pri tova.

rm e easy otkym IO activity stoto prosto v inode-to na file-a (dori i golqm da 
e toj) se vpisva 4e nqma nisto ot edi koj si do edi koj si secror. Kogato se 
creat-va nov file s cp togava se pishat i samite data. Tova bez zna4enie 
journal fs-a i v kyf rejim raboti. Komandata mv systo e easy kogato e v 
ramkite na edin fs, zastoto togava file data-ta ne se pipat vyobste a pak se 
pipa v inodes na stariq i noviq file, kato se ukazva 4e ve4e noviq file e v 
edi koj si sectors, moje da e v nqkolko takiva par4eta ot-do kato sectors.

 PSTezi dni vidyah diskusiya na kernel mail lista za ext2 i eventualno
 recovery na informaciya sled rm (samo che celta tam e tochno obratnata,
 da se napravi info-to nedostqpno sled rm)
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10753084953r=2w=1
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10753084953r=1w=1

wipe -- A UNIX tool for secure deletion
http://abaababa.ouvaton.org/wipe/
(bez zna4enie filesystem-a)

rabotata na tozi util moje da se integrira v samite filesystem drivers v 
kernel-a i v /proc da ima promeliva s koqto da se aktivira ili deaktivira, 
stoto ako e samo aktiviran ste vi pisne da 4akate da se pishat nuli otgore 
vyrhu iztritite sectors ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Register AS in RIPE

2004-02-12 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: MPlayer 1.0pre3, user/password proxy authentication problem

2004-02-12 Thread Vladimir Gerdjikov
Doncho Angelov wrote:
,  :

export http_proxy='http://proxy.site.domain:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:password'

 username/password   .
   ? 
 -  .  yum-a, 
 mplayer-a,.


export http_proxy='http://:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port'
,   . @

  2 
username/password.
,   .  ,  .  
  ,  (  ,   )

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lug-bg: OT: Linux Administrator

2004-02-12 Thread Andrei Boyanov
  ,  ,  :

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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Minko Markov
--- George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:42, Minko Markov wrote:
  --- Plamen Tonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
   ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a,
   ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete  
 
  Kakvo znachi zanulyava, prezapisva sektorite s nuli?
 
  Tova ne e verno,  ponezhe mozhe da ima nyakolko
  hard linka kqm fayla i togava rm prosto maha edin ot linkovete.
 
 syglasen. stoto ext3 v vsy4kite si tri rejima vinagi goni da sync-va data-ta v 
 main fs-a, osven v journal file-a. 

Ne stava duma za ext3. Priznavam, che ne ya znam, no tova,
koeto kazvah, vazhi za vsyakakva UNIX instalaciya bez
ogled na faylovata sistema.

Ako napravish

cat  A
 ... neshto si ...
^D
ln A B
rm -f A

to B prodqlzhava da sqshtestvuva i B  sqdqrzha
tochno tova, koeto e imalo v A.
A i B sa ravnostoyni pointer-i kqm edno i sqshto
neshto i rm -f A iztriva samo pointera narechen
A bez da pipa sqdqrzhanieto, kamo li da go nulira.
Za tova govoreh.

 rm e easy otkym IO activity stoto prosto v inode-to na file-a (dori i golqm da 
 e toj) se vpisva 4e nqma nisto ot edi koj si do edi koj si secror.

Ami znachi sqm prav, che ne go nulira.

A propos, zashto v inode-a na file-a? Iskash da kazhesh,
v inode-a na dir-a? Nali rm -f A iztriva inode-a, pri polozhenie,
che A e edinstveniyat hard link kqm tozi file?

Komandata mv systo e easy 
  kogato e v 
 ramkite na edin fs, zastoto togava file data-ta ne se pipat vyobste

Da. Imah predvid mv ot edin partition v drug.

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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux

2004-02-12 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev
Principno e taka i na praktika e wiarno, no w opredeleni uslowija lichno 
sym izwazhdal na dwa pyti ot ext2 fajlowe :)) wiarno ne 100%, no ne 
po-malko ot 85% :))) i se kasae za ne golemi fajlecheta w kolichestwa ot 
poriadyka na ~800-900MB, mda dosta tegawa rabota e no stawa makar che 
pak powtariam bez hubawo howto i docs za ext2 niama smisyl da se pochwa
Ot sobstwen opit, wyzstanovwqwaneto e tolkowa neweroqtno
che ne si struwa opitite ako po diska e zapisan/dopylnen dori edin fail...

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Re: Ohoo, web bugs, mamicata vi ..... was: (lug-bg: deistvie na 5 min chrez crontab)

2004-02-12 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Stoyan Tzalev wrote:
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 12:55, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
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lug-bg: postgre sql

2004-02-12 Thread raptor
hi,

nqkoi kazaha che polzwat PostgreSQL, bihte li mi kazali dali wyw postgre weche
move da se polzwat sub-selects i outer-joins ?!
i dali polwolqwa select * from storedproc()

thanx

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Re: lug-bg: Mach

2004-02-12 Thread Bozhan Bozhkov
 12 02 2004 10:39, Alexander Popov :
 Bozhan,
 kato gledam realno startup page-a e
 http://free.top.bg/bugar/OS/web/mach.html

:
  top.bg

 30  
 :


  2  !
  frre.top.bg  :
 top.bg!

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Re: lug-bg: Mach

2004-02-12 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Bozhan Bozhkov wrote:
 12 02 2004 10:39, Alexander Popov :

Bozhan,
kato gledam realno startup page-a e
http://free.top.bg/bugar/OS/web/mach.html
:
  top.bg
 30  
 :


  2  !
  frre.top.bg  :
 top.bg!
!
  bol.bg  
top.bg
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Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.6.2

2004-02-12 Thread darkstar
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 19:03,   wrote:
 ,

   
  .   2.6.2  
  Slackware-current.

  ,  
-.

  1:
 atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on
 isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access
 hardware directly.

   ,  -   
 .   :-)
Problem:


Kernel reports:
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.

Solution:
~

Well, the kernel means what it says. XFree86 boldly goes and accesses the
keyboard controller registers when it starts up. This is a bad thing to do,
as it can conflict with the kernel using these registers at the same time.
The kernel spots this and complains, and in most cases is not affected by
the problem.

So, unless you are an XFree86 developer and can fix X, ignore this message.
--
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0402.0/0019.html
  2:
 kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- char-major-10-134. error =
 256

  -   APM.   
  ,   ACPI.  
 /etc/modules.conf :
 alias char-major-10-134 off

   .
  ?
 'off'  ...
  3
 request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- char-major-10-135. error = 256
rtc
 /etc/modules.conf
 alias char-major-10-135 rtc
 RTC 

  4
 Feb 10 02:24:36 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 snd-card-1. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:25:21 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 snd-card-1. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:25:37 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 sound-slot-0. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:25:50 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 sound-slot-0. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:27:23 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 sound-slot-0. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:28:18 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe --
 snd-card-1. error = 256
 Feb 10 02:33:04 darkstar kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:155: Unexpected
 hw_pointer value (stream = 0, delta: -112, max jitter = 5120): wrong
 interrupt acknowledge?

 ALSA  (
  )  /etc/modules.conf

 alias char-major-116 snd
 alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
 alias char-major-14 soundcore
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
 alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
 alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
 alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
 alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss


 alias snd-card-1 off
  .
 ...
  5
 darkstar kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- char-major-226-0.
 error = 256
  .
DRI.DRI  ,   ATI, 
 ,  . 
   ,   ...
:)




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Re: lug-bg: Cenzura - was: Mach

2004-02-12 Thread Stefan Stoilov
  2  !
  frre.top.bg  :
 top.bg!
!


  bol.bg  
top.bg


   193.110.159.0/24
  ,   / MP3 -ki / ,
  ??
(   4   ,   
) ,  .

   ISP,   
 ?!?!?.   ?!?!?

,,:)

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Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.6.2

2004-02-12 Thread Ivan Danov
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 19:03,   wrote:

,

  
 .   2.6.2  
 Slackware-current.
 2:
kernel: request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- char-major-10-134. error =
256
 -   APM.   
 ,   ACPI.  
/etc/modules.conf :
alias char-major-10-134 off
  .
 ?
 'off'  ...
 2.6.  module-init-tools, 
/etc/modules.conf, a /etc/modprobe.conf. 
generate-modprobe.conf,   /etc/modprobe.conf   
.   /etc/modprobe.conf   .




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Re: lug-bg: Cenzura - was: Mach

2004-02-12 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 12 February 2004 23:11, Stefan Stoilov wrote:
2  !
frre.top.bg  :
   top.bg!
 
  !
 
bol.bg  
  top.bg

193.110.159.0/24
,   / MP3 -ki / ,
??

,,  ,
;-)
,: http://stefan.dupnica.net/private.html
:   ( MP3,   CD,  
MC) ...  mp3
,;-) 
   ,,  
 .

 (   4   ,  
 ) ,  .

  
 ;-)

ISP,  
  ?!?!?.   ?!?!?

 ,
  .   ...   
. 
  ,, 
   .

 ,,:)

 ,  ;-)

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