Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Àìà êàêúâ Âè å ïðîáëåìúò áðå ?! ;-) Ãåíèàëíèÿ ÷îâåê íà êîéòî ìó å õðóìíàëà âúïðîñíàòà èäåÿ å íåáåçèçâåñòíèÿ Êàëèí Áîãàöåâñêè. È èäåÿòà å íàèñòèíà ìíîãî äîáðà. Ùîì Îðáèòåë Âè ôèëòðèðà ( à è äðóãè ISP ) - îáúðíåòå ñå êúì Biscom !!! Òå ñà èìàëè ïðåäâàðèòåëíè ðàçãîâîðè ñ ISP-òàòà , êîãàòî ñà óìóâàëè äàëè äà å ëåãàëåí ñïóôèíã èëè äà å VPN. Òå ùå Âè ðåøàò ïðîëåìà. Âòîðíèê 03 07, 2001 19:43 , Stoyan Lekov íàïèñàõòå: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelitene e tuneling ... az pone dori ne mozhah da proumeia na koi *genialen* chovek mu se poiavi podobna ideia da se pusne tova po toia nachin ... mnogo ISP-ta niamat podobni filtri ... Orbitel v sluchaia (evala) imat i da, napulno sym protiv tova, koeto napraviha biscom - i az imam takiva klienti, i triabvashe i az da prepraviam filtrite si. ako iskash, shte ti pokazha traceroute sas source podobno ip -Original Message- From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:44 Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite uf stoqne, qsno e che imat filter prosto se chudeh kak si e reshil problema choweka kaza che Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... a twa ti kak si go predstawqsh, izhodqshtiq trafik na klient na biscom wyrzan po dial-up ili po naeta liniq kym orbitel da ne minawa prez orbitel... Spored men stawa duma za nqkakyv tunneling, pone ne se seshtam w momenta za drugo reshenie, ama mi stana interesno... BR, Boyan CUT Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1251; name=Ïðèñúåäèíåíè: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -- Ivaylo Toshev SAIR Linux /GNU Certified Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://linux.itce.com http://www.itce.com ITCE Ltd. Ñîôèÿ +359 2 957 17 83 +359 2 957 17 84 === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
ami drugoto reshenie (koeto v momenta nemoga da podkaram e s proxy) znachi zadelixme edno IP ot nashata mreja 195..247 i na nego si dignax interfeica ifconfig sm200d 195..247 netmask 255.255.255.255 v SkyData.ini configfile-a za IP pisha 195..247 do tuk pravilno li e? zashtoto nemoga da se logna na proxyto im 193..2:3128 ?!?!? On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Boyan Krosnov wrote: Ne e redno! Ako ima drugo reshenie oswen spoofnatite paketi trqbwa da se polzwa to. Ako nqma ne mojesh da prinudish dostawchicite da si mahnat spoof filtrite. Az ne bih si mahnal moite. (Oswen ako razbira se nachalstwoto ne natisne, ama shte placha gorko edna sedmica i sled towa shte se razboleq tejko). BR, --- CCNP Boyan Krosnov Network Administrator LirexNet -Original Message- From: Stoyan Lekov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite Dostavchika mu ne e biscom - ip-tata sushto ne se anonsirat ot biscom. ideiata e da izlezesh s tova ip, i da te pusne upstreama ti rezultata e da poluchish otgovora po satelita az tova go naricham SPOOF, i imah mnogo goliam spor do kolko e redno tova !!! i da, absoliutno protiv sym tova, no ... bi li go obiasnil na g-n Bogatsevski ? Stoyan -Original Message- From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:50 Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite sorry za predishniq mail, zamina po newnimanie. ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka | |\2 /| | \ biscom-|INTERNET |-- Orbitel - klient \| | 1 3 | | znachi filtyra protiv spoofing e ili na 3 ili po-weroqtno na 1 i 2. kakwoto i da prawqt biscom nqma ottyrwane ot tiq filtri. oswek ako klienta ne se zakachi kym drug dostawchik kojto nqma takiva filtri. Molq wsichki w taq grupa da razberat che da se prashtat spoofnati paketi e losho, zabraneno i nemoralno neshto i ne trqbwa nikoj da go praktikuwa nezawisimo kolko po-lesno se nastrojwat neshtata s tqh. BR, Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Å òîâà å åäíà äðóãà òåìà ;-))) Îïèòàé ñå äà ñå ñâúðæåø ñ íÿêîé äðóã òàì Ñðÿäà 04 07, 2001 10:40 , Ivan Dimitrov íàïèñàõòå: vuprosniq gospodin e edno iznerveno sushtestvo... koeto ne pochita klientite si! On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Ivaylo Toshev wrote: Àìà êàêúâ Âè å ïðîáëåìúò áðå ?! ;-) Ãåíèàëíèÿ ÷îâåê íà êîéòî ìó å õðóìíàëà âúïðîñíàòà èäåÿ å íåáåçèçâåñòíèÿ Êàëèí Áîãàöåâñêè. È èäåÿòà å íàèñòèíà ìíîãî äîáðà. Ùîì Îðáèòåë Âè ôèëòðèðà ( à è äðóãè ISP ) - îáúðíåòå ñå êúì Biscom !!! Òå ñà èìàëè ïðåäâàðèòåëíè ðàçãîâîðè ñ ISP-òàòà , êîãàòî ñà óìóâàëè äàëè äà å ëåãàëåí ñïóôèíã èëè äà å VPN. Òå ùå Âè ðåøàò ïðîëåìà. Âòîðíèê 03 07, 2001 19:43 , Stoyan Lekov íàïèñàõòå: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelitene e tuneling ... az pone dori ne mozhah da proumeia na koi *genialen* chovek mu se poiavi podobna ideia da se pusne tova po toia nachin ... mnogo ISP-ta niamat podobni filtri ... Orbitel v sluchaia (evala) imat i da, napulno sym protiv tova, koeto napraviha biscom - i az imam takiva klienti, i triabvashe i az da prepraviam filtrite si. ako iskash, shte ti pokazha traceroute sas source podobno ip -Original Message- From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:44 Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite uf stoqne, qsno e che imat filter prosto se chudeh kak si e reshil problema choweka kaza che Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... a twa ti kak si go predstawqsh, izhodqshtiq trafik na klient na biscom wyrzan po dial-up ili po naeta liniq kym orbitel da ne minawa prez orbitel... Spored men stawa duma za nqkakyv tunneling, pone ne se seshtam w momenta za drugo reshenie, ama mi stana interesno... BR, Boyan CUT Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1251; name=Ïðèñúåäèíåíè: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -- Ivaylo Toshev SAIR Linux /GNU Certified Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://linux.itce.com http://www.itce.com ITCE Ltd. Ñîôèÿ +359 2 957 17 83 +359 2 957 17 84 = == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora -- -- Ivaylo Toshev SAIR Linux /GNU Certified Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://linux.itce.com http://www.itce.com ITCE Ltd. Ñîôèÿ +359 2 957 17 83 +359 2 957 17 84 === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Na Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Vie napisahte: Boyane, da ti obqsnq nakratko kak stava taka, che choveka hem ne e Customer na Orbitel, hem trafika mu minava prez Orbitel, a te pyk go reroutvat da ne minava :))) Otgovora e tvyrde prost - preprodavane na Internet. Iasen e klient na online.bg , a online.bg sa klienti na Orbitel (kupuvat ot tqh trafik). tova e cqlata dilema. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora Content-Type: text/html; name=unnamed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -- Teodor Georgiev Network Consultant AbacusTrade Ltd, Sofia e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33741477 -- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Àç ñúì ïóñêàë: Íèùî ñëîæíî: Íàñòðîéâàø êàðòàòà ïî ïàðàìåòðèòå çà òðàíñïîíäåðà íà ñàòåëèòà. Îòòóê îáà÷å ñëåäâàò ðàçëè÷èÿ: ÁÈÑÊÎÌ ðàáîòÿò ïî äâà ìåòîäà: - íåùî êàòî ëåãàëåí ñïóôèíã, çà êîéòî îáà÷å òðÿáâà äà èìàø ðåàëåí IP àðäåñ, ò.å. äà íå ñè ïî dial-up; Òîãàâà òå òè äàâàò îùå åäèí IP àäðåñ, êîéòî êîíôèãóðèðàø íà êàðòàòà (ñàòåëèòíàòà) è òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîãðèæèø âñè÷êè ïàêåòè äà èçëèçàò îò òîçè IP àäðåñ êàòî èçòî÷íèê. Ñúñ squid òîâà ñå íàãëàñÿ ìíîãî ëåñíî: èìàøå íåùî êàòî tcp_outgoing_address èëè íåùî ïîäîáíî. - Äðóãèÿò âàðèàíò å êàêòî ÅÎÍ äà ïîëçâàø PROXY, òå èìàò è SOCKS 5 Proxy, êîåòî å ìíîãî óäîáíî çà ãîëÿì êðúã îò ïðèëîæåíèÿ; Âòîðíèê 03 07, 2001 14:00 , Ivan Dimitrov íàïèñàõòå: nqkoi moje li da mi pomogne s configuraciata na cqlata rabota za biscom? puskal sum kum EOL dosta puti i mi e qsno kak e pri tqx, obache sq s teq biscom oshte nesum se zanimaval i nevidqx na site-a nikade FAQ ili ot roda... === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora -- -- Ivaylo Toshev SAIR Linux /GNU Certified Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://linux.itce.com http://www.itce.com ITCE Ltd. Ñîôèÿ +359 2 957 17 83 +359 2 957 17 84 === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Priemam che si s linux. Znachi ima 2 na4ina. 1st (s koito sme tyk) - se izpolzwa kogat box-a e na 2.2 kernel. Purwo se diga alias na mrejarkata s IP, koeto sa ti go dali ot Biscom i netmask 255.255.255.255. Sled twa w Squid se ukazwa tcp_outgoing_address IP kydeto IP e pak IP-to ot Biscom. Imahme problem che Orbitel ni filtrira spoofnatite paketi, ako ne raboti probwai edin traceroute -s ... 2nd (koito mi predstoi da probwam) - se predpolaga che mashinkata e s 2.4 kernel. Pak se diga alias i se prawi spoofing s iptables. Towa ne sum go probwal, no teoritichno trqbwa da raboti... Regards Iassen Anadoliev === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite Normalno e da vi filtrirat spoofnatite paketi! -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite Priemam che si s linux. Znachi ima 2 na4ina. 1st (s koito sme tyk) - se izpolzwa kogat box-a e na 2.2 kernel. Purwo se diga alias na mrejarkata s IP, koeto sa ti go dali ot Biscom i netmask 255.255.255.255. Sled twa w Squid se ukazwa tcp_outgoing_address IP kydeto IP e pak IP-to ot Biscom. Imahme problem che Orbitel ni filtrira spoofnatite paketi, ako ne raboti probwai edin traceroute -s ... 2nd (koito mi predstoi da probwam) - se predpolaga che mashinkata e s 2.4 kernel. Pak se diga alias i se prawi spoofing s iptables. Towa ne sum go probwal, no teoritichno trqbwa da raboti... Regards Iassen Anadoliev == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Sime:) a tam pishe li neshto za alias ip-ta i squid:) On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Simeon Vlahov wrote: Hello Ivan, Tuesday, July 03, 2001, 4:00:20 AM, you wrote: Ivan nqkoi moje li da mi pomogne s configuraciata na cqlata rabota za biscom? Ivan puskal sum kum EOL dosta puti i mi e qsno kak e pri tqx, obache sq s teq Ivan biscom oshte nesum se zanimaval i nevidqx na site-a nikade FAQ ili ot Ivan roda... Ivan === Ivan A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) Ivan http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora Vanka izlagash se bratche, kak da njama??? eto: http://www.sat.biscom.net/?o=settings sled 1 minuta tysene go namerih! moni -- ... You can never make something idiot proof because the idiots are so clever! -- Best regards, Simeonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
blagodarq za predlojeniqta, shte probvam... On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Iassen Anadoliev wrote: Priemam che si s linux. Znachi ima 2 na4ina. 1st (s koito sme tyk) - se izpolzwa kogat box-a e na 2.2 kernel. Purwo se diga alias na mrejarkata s IP, koeto sa ti go dali ot Biscom i netmask 255.255.255.255. Sled twa w Squid se ukazwa tcp_outgoing_address IP kydeto IP e pak IP-to ot Biscom. Imahme problem che Orbitel ni filtrira spoofnatite paketi, ako ne raboti probwai edin traceroute -s ... 2nd (koito mi predstoi da probwam) - se predpolaga che mashinkata e s 2.4 kernel. Pak se diga alias i se prawi spoofing s iptables. Towa ne sum go probwal, no teoritichno trqbwa da raboti... Regards Iassen Anadoliev === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
kak si reshi problema s Orbitel? az sumshto sum kum tqx... Ami durveno. Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite kak si reshi problema s Orbitel? az sumshto sum kum tqx... Ami durveno. Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite problema e, che toi triabva da izleze s ip 193.227.105.xxx koeto realno ne e ot niakoia mrezha na orbitel, i (normalno estestveno) orbitel imat filter na izhoda. -Original Message-From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 18:56Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite kak si reshi problema s Orbitel? az sumshto sum kum tqx... Ami durveno. Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka /| biscom- \ -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite uf stoqne, qsno e che imat filter prosto se chudeh kak si e reshil problema choweka kaza che Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... a twa ti kak si go predstawqsh, izhodqshtiq trafik na klient na biscom wyrzan po dial-up ili po naeta liniq kym orbitel da ne minawa prez orbitel... Spored men stawa duma za nqkakyv tunneling, pone ne se seshtam w momenta za drugo reshenie, ama mi stana interesno... BR, Boyan -Original Message- From: Stoyan Lekov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite problema e, che toi triabva da izleze s ip 193.227.105.xxx koeto realno ne e ot niakoia mrezha na orbitel, i (normalno estestveno) orbitel imat filter na izhoda. -Original Message- From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 18:56 Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite kak si reshi problema s Orbitel? az sumshto sum kum tqx... Ami durveno. Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite otchasti sym zapoznat s istoriata prosto isp-to mu ima route-map, koito pri request ot tova ip ne go prekarva prez primary kanala si, a prez drug, koito niama podoben filter -Original Message-From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:41Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka /| biscom- \ -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite ne e tuneling ... az pone dori ne mozhah da proumeia na koi *genialen* chovek mu se poiavi podobna ideia da se pusne tova po toia nachin ... mnogo ISP-ta niamat podobni filtri ... Orbitel v sluchaia (evala) imat i da, napulno sym protiv tova, koeto napraviha biscom - i az imam takiva klienti, i triabvashe i az da prepraviam filtrite si. ako iskash, shte ti pokazha traceroute sas source podobno ip -Original Message-From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:44Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite uf stoqne, qsno e che imat filter prosto se chudeh kak si e reshil problema choweka kaza che "Reroute-naha ni trafika da ne minava prez Orbitel... " a twa ti kak si go predstawqsh, izhodqshtiq trafik na klient na biscom wyrzan po dial-up ili po naeta liniq kym orbitel da ne minawa prez orbitel... Spored men stawa duma za nqkakyv tunneling, pone ne se seshtam w momenta za drugo reshenie, ama mi stana interesno... BR, Boyan CUT
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite sorry za predishniq mail, zamina po newnimanie. ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka | |\2 /| | \ biscom-|INTERNET |-- Orbitel - klient \| | 1 3 | | znachi filtyra protiv spoofing e ili na 3 ili po-weroqtno na 1 i 2. kakwoto i da prawqt biscom nqma ottyrwane ot tiq filtri. oswek ako klienta ne se zakachi kym drug dostawchik kojto nqma takiva filtri. Molq wsichki w taq grupa da razberat che da se prashtat spoofnati paketi e losho, zabraneno i nemoralno neshto i ne trqbwa nikoj da go praktikuwa nezawisimo kolko po-lesno se nastrojwat neshtata s tqh. BR, Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite Dostavchika mu ne e biscom - ip-tata sushto ne se anonsirat ot biscom. ideiata e da izlezesh s tova ip, i da te pusne upstreama ti rezultata e da poluchish otgovora po satelita az tova go naricham "SPOOF", i imah mnogo goliam spor do kolko e redno tova !!! i da, absoliutno protiv sym tova, no ... bi li go obiasnil na g-n Bogatsevski ? Stoyan -Original Message-From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:50Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite sorry za predishniq mail, zamina po newnimanie. ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka | |\2 /| | \ biscom-|INTERNET |-- Orbitel - klient \| | 1 3 | | znachi filtyra protiv spoofing e ili na 3 ili po-weroqtno na 1 i 2. kakwoto i da prawqt biscom nqma ottyrwane ot tiq filtri. oswek ako klienta ne se zakachi kym drug dostawchik kojto nqma takiva filtri. Molq wsichki w taq grupa da razberat che da se prashtat spoofnati paketi e losho, zabraneno i nemoralno neshto i ne trqbwa nikoj da go praktikuwa nezawisimo kolko po-lesno se nastrojwat neshtata s tqh. BR, Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka /| biscom- \ Hmf za neshta ot koit ne razbiram ne obicham da sporq dori i da ima weroqtnost da izlqza praw... Puk wse pak wuprosa beshe kak se podkarwa PlanetSky :) tui che Regards Iassen Anadoliev === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Hm izglejda ne utochnih che az _ne_ sum customer na Orbitel prosto route-a minawa prez tqh. A po wuprosa za spoofinga i az sum protiv dori dokato ne stana ne misleh che tava e wuzmojno... === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite
Title: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite Ne e redno! Ako ima drugo reshenie oswen spoofnatite paketi trqbwa da se polzwa to. Ako nqma ne mojesh da prinudish dostawchicite da si mahnat spoof filtrite. Az ne bih si mahnal moite. (Oswen ako razbira se nachalstwoto ne natisne, ama shte placha gorko edna sedmica i sled towa shte se razboleq tejko). BR, --- CCNP Boyan Krosnov Network Administrator LirexNet -Original Message- From: Stoyan Lekov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite Dostavchika mu ne e biscom - ip-tata sushto ne se anonsirat ot biscom. ideiata e da izlezesh s tova ip, i da te pusne upstreama ti rezultata e da poluchish otgovora po satelita az tova go naricham SPOOF, i imah mnogo goliam spor do kolko e redno tova !!! i da, absoliutno protiv sym tova, no ... bi li go obiasnil na g-n Bogatsevski ? Stoyan -Original Message- From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Þëè 2001 ã. 19:50 Subject: RE: lug-bg: biscom satelite sorry za predishniq mail, zamina po newnimanie. ne mi zwuchi prawdopodobno znachi shte ti narisuwam kartinka | |\2 /| | \ biscom-|INTERNET |-- Orbitel - klient \| | 1 3 | | znachi filtyra protiv spoofing e ili na 3 ili po-weroqtno na 1 i 2. kakwoto i da prawqt biscom nqma ottyrwane ot tiq filtri. oswek ako klienta ne se zakachi kym drug dostawchik kojto nqma takiva filtri. Molq wsichki w taq grupa da razberat che da se prashtat spoofnati paketi e losho, zabraneno i nemoralno neshto i ne trqbwa nikoj da go praktikuwa nezawisimo kolko po-lesno se nastrojwat neshtata s tqh. BR, Boyan -Original Message- From: Iassen Anadoliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: biscom satelite q obqsni che ne razbrah. Boyan Mi ok de ne sum mnogo naqsno s mrejite. Da rechem che imame edno isp. Ta towa isp ima 2 linii i client naprawi nqkyw request. Toi si minawa prez Line1. Obache tam neshto nqkoi upstream filtrira i ispto prawi taka che requesta da minawa prez Line2. Kak se naricha towa? == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
