Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Simeon Vlahov

Hello Luben,

Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote:

Luben On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 11:15:31AM +0300, jpali wrote:
 Çäðàâåéòå
 Âñè÷êî òîâà êîåòî ïèøåòå å ìíîãî õóáàâî, íî çàáðàâÿòå åäíî îò íàé âàæíèòå íåùà çà 
ÁÎÃÎÏÎÌÀÇÀÍÈÒÅ à èìåííî ÷å íÿìà êàê äà ñè èçêàðâàò ñòîòèíêè çà áàíè÷êè àêî íå 
êóïóâàò íÿêîé ëèöåíçèðàí ñèôòóåð
 çàùîòî òàì ñà ÊÎÌÈÑÈÎÍÍÈÒÅ ß ÇÀ ÏÐÅÄÈÇÁÎÐÍÀ ÊÀÌÏÀÍÈß ,ß ÇÀ ÍßÊÎß ÁËÀÃÎÒÂÎÐÈÒÅËÍÀ 
ÔÎÍÄÀÖÈß   à êàäåòî èìà ïàðè /ìíîãî ïàðè /òàì âå÷å è ÁÎÃÎÂÅÒÅ ìúë÷àò 
 Íå ìå ñìÿòàéòå çà ãîëÿì ïàñèìèñò íî òîâà å èñòèíàòà çà ÍÀÑ  ÷å êàòî áåäíà 
Äúðæàâà ñìå êîðóìïèðàíè äî óøèòå 
   Ñ Óâàæåíèå êúì ÂÑÈ×ÊÈ Ä-ð Àëè
   
Luben Äà, òàêà å êàêòî ãî êàçâàø, íî âúïðîñúò å ÇÀÙÎ ÄÀ Å ÒÀÊÀ? àç ïîíå íå ñúì 
ñúãëàñåí äà å òàêà!

Ëþáåíå,
Íå ñè äåòå è ñàì ñå ñåùàø, ÇÀÙÎ Å ÒÀÊÀ ïîëó÷àâà íàé-íåçàáàâíèÿ è áúðç
îòãîâîð - ÇÀÙÎÒÎ ÆÈÂÅÅÌ Â ÊÎÐÓÌÏÈÐÀÍÀ ÄÚÐÆÀÂÀ! Íÿìà òúðã çà êîÿòî è äà
å äúðæàâíà ïîðú÷êà, â êîéòî äà íÿìà ïàçàðëúê íà ÷åòèðè î÷è. Çàùî
òúðïèì êîðóïöèÿòà, íå ìîãà äà òè êàæà, èçãëåæäà å âúïðîñ íà
íàðîäîïñèõîëîãèÿ, íî ðàçáèðà ñå ìîæåì äà íàïðàâèì íåùî ñðåùó íåÿ è
òîâà å, äà èçíåñåì ñëó÷àÿ â ìåäèèòå, ñ äåáåëî ïîä÷åðòàâàíå
è äàæå íàòúðòâàíå, ÷å å èìàëî ñàìî åäèí êàíäèäàò, ïðè ïðåäâèäåíè â
çàêîíà ïîíå äâàìà (çà ïðîâåæäàíå íà òúðãà).
È, ðàçáèðà ñå, íÿìà íèêàêúâ ñìèñúë äà îáîãàòèì êîø÷åòàòà çà ñìåò íà
ñåãàøíîòî ïðàâèòåëñòâî, îùå ïîâå÷å, ÷å àêî èçîáùî ãî ïðî÷åòàò, ùå ãî
äàäàò èìåííî íà ÷îâåêà, ãóøíàë êîìèñèîííàòà, èëè íà íåãîâ ïðèáëèæåí.
 ïèñìîòî òðÿáâà äà ñå äàäàò ïðèìåðè çà äúðæàâè, ïðèåëè â
àäìèíèñòðàöèèòå ñè ñèñòåìè ñ îòâîðåí êîä ïðåäè íàñ, íàïðèìåð Ôðàíöèÿ,
êîÿòî îò÷èòà ñðèâ íà âðåìåòî, ïðåç êîèòî ñúðâúðèòå è ðàáîòíèòå ñòàíöèè
íå ñà ðàáîòèëè, îò îêîëî 1000 % íàäîëó.

Ñèìåîí


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Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Yovko D. Lambrev

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Hello Luben,

Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå
èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç
êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå
ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî?

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Best regards,
Yovko D. Lambrev

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Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Yovko D. Lambrev

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Hello Luben,

Thursday, June 28, 2001, 2:49:18 PM, you wrote:

 spored men dyrzhavata ima podanici, a obshtestvoto grazhdani
 ako e grazhdansko, t.e. ako vseki e otgovoren za sobstvenata si
 pozicia i mozhe da ia nalozhi pri upravlenieto na syotvetnata
 dyrzhava.

Ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ñè ïðàâ - íèå ñìå ãðàæäàíè íà Áúëãàðèÿ, à íå ïîäàíèöè - è
ïîíåæå òîâà òî÷íî â íàøè äíè å àäñêè ùåêîòëèâ âúïðîñ íÿìà äà å çëå äà
ïðîìåíèì äóìàòà íà íÿêîÿ ïî-áåçîïàñíà îòêúì ïîëèòè÷åñêè ñêàíäàëè àêî
íÿêîé òîëêîâà íå èñêà òàì äà èìà ãðàæäàíè, êîåòî ñïîðåä ìåí å
ïðàâèëíèÿ òåðìèí (ïñåâäî-ñèíîíèìè: íàðîä, õîðà, îáùåñòâî è ò.í.)

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Yovko D. Lambrev

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Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Yovko D. Lambrev

Hello Luben,

Thursday, June 28, 2001, 4:59:32 PM, you wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:10:43PM +0300, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote:
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 Hello Luben,
 
 Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå
 èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç
 êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå
 ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî?
 
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 napravih, go - po default e bez komentarite, no mozhesh da gi vizdash  po ordelni
 ili vyv staria format

Ìèñëÿ, ÷å òàêà å ïî-äîáðå! Thanks!

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Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Valery Dachev

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote:

 Hello Luben,

 Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå
 èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç
 êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå
 ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî?

Luben,
Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se
zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :(

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Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Luben Karavelov

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:30:08PM +0300, Valery Dachev wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote:
 
  Hello Luben,
 
  Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå
  èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç
  êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå
  ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî?
 
 Luben,
 Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se
 zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :(
ami ezika triabva da e bulgarski. strannoto che i az kato napravih
test s lynx, kazva che ne se prazhtat neobhodimite poleta. s links
raboti, syshto s mozilla, ie. za drugo ne znam. i az se chudia kakav
mozhe da e problema?

 
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Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-28 Thread Luben Karavelov

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:30:08PM +0300, Valery Dachev wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote:
 
  Hello Luben,
 
  Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå
  èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç
  êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå
  ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî?
 
 Luben,
 Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se
 zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :(
 
 . . . . . . . . .   Best regards, Valery Dachev

OK, opravih go, okaza se che lynx ne prashta nesdhto kakto triava
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Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-26 Thread Simeon Vlahov

Hello Luben,

Tuesday, June 26, 2001, 8:48:07 AM, you wrote:

Luben On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:14:04AM -0700,  ggg wrote:
 niakoi ot vas (ako ne se laja Al.Shopov) sabirashe
 vaprosi za interviu s prezidenta i predstavitelia na
 MS ,koito beshe v BG , niama li da e po lesno ako toi
 zip-ne vsi4ki polu4eni predlojenia i ti gi prati?
 
 zashtoto pismoto e s niakak bedno zvu4ene , a da ne
 go vorim , 4e termina otvoren kod nadali govori
 mnogo na horata ot darjavnata administracia , goliama
 4ast ot koito na vaprosa: kakva OS polzvate?
 otgovariat ubeditelno - MS WORD !.
 
 georgi

Luben ami az si mislia che ima i takiva deto ne misliat MSWord za OS.
Luben I tochno kym tiah e nasocheno pismoto.

Luben Celta na pismoto ne e da interviewira dyrzhavnata administracia,
Luben a da oburne vnimanie na obshtestvoto v/u neshto, koeto smiatame 
Luben za vashno. tova znachi che nie pitame za neshto konkretno. a 
Luben principno zhanra na pismoto e razlichen ot interview. tyi che
Luben niama zashto neumestno da se povtariame s al.shopov. razbira se
Luben ako toi dobavi neshto kym pismoto ili dade niakoi syvet, shtoto
Luben po-razbira ot nas niakoi neshta, dobre doshlo. puk ako az iskam
Luben da pitam prezidenta zashto politikata na dyrzhavata e da tolerira
Luben MS, shte se obyrna kym nego, ta da zadade i tozi vypros.

Luben Luben

A eto i edno dobro predlozhenie ot edin friend kojto ne e chlen na
LUG: (dadoh mu URL-to)
- paste log 
Delwin_ predlagam da ima i site i koito go podkrepia da se podpisva tam ..


Delwin_ estestveno *ne* anonimno
Delwin_ kato na liux counter

Delwin_ ==linux
--- end 

I v dopylnenie na mediite da se dade rezultata -- kolko sa go
podkrepili.


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Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo

2001-06-26 Thread George Danchev

da, 
 nqkoi  .bg sites ve4e pravqt takova glasuwane , rezultatite sa dosta 
optimislti4ni:
 
Êàê ùå ðåàãèðàòå íà îáó÷åíèå íà Linux â ó÷èëèùå/óíèâåðñèòåòà

http://linux-bg.exco.net/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=votesact=votecmd=addvid=21vy=2001x=12y=10

Predpolagam 4e sobstvenicite na tozi site nqma da imat nisto protiv  da ka4at 
i nasheto pismo za glasuwane , no neka purvo da se iz4isti dostatu4no 
text-a , i da se vidi dali grupata kato cqlo go odobrqwa , i eventualno kak 
ste se podpishe pismoto . 

Vajnoto e da ima iniciativnost  i predlojeniq v posoka open/free  ot strana 
na potrebitelite , puk dano i durjavata se orientira po tqh .  

On Wednesday 27 June 2001 06:30, you wrote:
 Hello Luben,

 Tuesday, June 26, 2001, 8:48:07 AM, you wrote:

 Luben On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:14:04AM -0700,  ggg wrote:
  niakoi ot vas (ako ne se laja Al.Shopov) sabirashe
  vaprosi za interviu s prezidenta i predstavitelia na
  MS ,koito beshe v BG , niama li da e po lesno ako toi
  zip-ne vsi4ki polu4eni predlojenia i ti gi prati?
 
  zashtoto pismoto e s niakak bedno zvu4ene , a da ne
  go vorim , 4e termina otvoren kod nadali govori
  mnogo na horata ot darjavnata administracia , goliama
  4ast ot koito na vaprosa: kakva OS polzvate?
  otgovariat ubeditelno - MS WORD !.
 
  georgi

 Luben ami az si mislia che ima i takiva deto ne misliat MSWord za OS.
 Luben I tochno kym tiah e nasocheno pismoto.

 Luben Celta na pismoto ne e da interviewira dyrzhavnata administracia,
 Luben a da oburne vnimanie na obshtestvoto v/u neshto, koeto smiatame
 Luben za vashno. tova znachi che nie pitame za neshto konkretno. a
 Luben principno zhanra na pismoto e razlichen ot interview. tyi che
 Luben niama zashto neumestno da se povtariame s al.shopov. razbira se
 Luben ako toi dobavi neshto kym pismoto ili dade niakoi syvet, shtoto
 Luben po-razbira ot nas niakoi neshta, dobre doshlo. puk ako az iskam
 Luben da pitam prezidenta zashto politikata na dyrzhavata e da tolerira
 Luben MS, shte se obyrna kym nego, ta da zadade i tozi vypros.

 Luben Luben

 A eto i edno dobro predlozhenie ot edin friend kojto ne e chlen na
 LUG: (dadoh mu URL-to)
 - paste log 
 Delwin_ predlagam da ima i site i koito go podkrepia da se podpisva tam
 ..


 Delwin_ estestveno *ne* anonimno
 Delwin_ kato na liux counter

 Delwin_ ==linux
 --- end 

 I v dopylnenie na mediite da se dade rezultata -- kolko sa go
 podkrepili.


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 clever!
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