Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
Hello Luben, Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote: Luben On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 11:15:31AM +0300, jpali wrote: Çäðàâåéòå Âñè÷êî òîâà êîåòî ïèøåòå å ìíîãî õóáàâî, íî çàáðàâÿòå åäíî îò íàé âàæíèòå íåùà çà ÁÎÃÎÏÎÌÀÇÀÍÈÒÅ à èìåííî ÷å íÿìà êàê äà ñè èçêàðâàò ñòîòèíêè çà áàíè÷êè àêî íå êóïóâàò íÿêîé ëèöåíçèðàí ñèôòóåð çàùîòî òàì ñà ÊÎÌÈÑÈÎÍÍÈÒÅ ß ÇÀ ÏÐÅÄÈÇÁÎÐÍÀ ÊÀÌÏÀÍÈß ,ß ÇÀ ÍßÊÎß ÁËÀÃÎÒÂÎÐÈÒÅËÍÀ ÔÎÍÄÀÖÈß à êàäåòî èìà ïàðè /ìíîãî ïàðè /òàì âå÷å è ÁÎÃÎÂÅÒÅ ìúë÷àò Íå ìå ñìÿòàéòå çà ãîëÿì ïàñèìèñò íî òîâà å èñòèíàòà çà ÍÀÑ ÷å êàòî áåäíà Äúðæàâà ñìå êîðóìïèðàíè äî óøèòå Ñ Óâàæåíèå êúì ÂÑÈ×ÊÈ Ä-ð Àëè Luben Äà, òàêà å êàêòî ãî êàçâàø, íî âúïðîñúò å ÇÀÙÎ ÄÀ Å ÒÀÊÀ? àç ïîíå íå ñúì ñúãëàñåí äà å òàêà! Ëþáåíå, Íå ñè äåòå è ñàì ñå ñåùàø, ÇÀÙÎ Å ÒÀÊÀ ïîëó÷àâà íàé-íåçàáàâíèÿ è áúðç îòãîâîð - ÇÀÙÎÒÎ ÆÈÂÅÅÌ Â ÊÎÐÓÌÏÈÐÀÍÀ ÄÚÐÆÀÂÀ! Íÿìà òúðã çà êîÿòî è äà å äúðæàâíà ïîðú÷êà, â êîéòî äà íÿìà ïàçàðëúê íà ÷åòèðè î÷è. Çàùî òúðïèì êîðóïöèÿòà, íå ìîãà äà òè êàæà, èçãëåæäà å âúïðîñ íà íàðîäîïñèõîëîãèÿ, íî ðàçáèðà ñå ìîæåì äà íàïðàâèì íåùî ñðåùó íåÿ è òîâà å, äà èçíåñåì ñëó÷àÿ â ìåäèèòå, ñ äåáåëî ïîä÷åðòàâàíå è äàæå íàòúðòâàíå, ÷å å èìàëî ñàìî åäèí êàíäèäàò, ïðè ïðåäâèäåíè â çàêîíà ïîíå äâàìà (çà ïðîâåæäàíå íà òúðãà). È, ðàçáèðà ñå, íÿìà íèêàêúâ ñìèñúë äà îáîãàòèì êîø÷åòàòà çà ñìåò íà ñåãàøíîòî ïðàâèòåëñòâî, îùå ïîâå÷å, ÷å àêî èçîáùî ãî ïðî÷åòàò, ùå ãî äàäàò èìåííî íà ÷îâåêà, ãóøíàë êîìèñèîííàòà, èëè íà íåãîâ ïðèáëèæåí.  ïèñìîòî òðÿáâà äà ñå äàäàò ïðèìåðè çà äúðæàâè, ïðèåëè â àäìèíèñòðàöèèòå ñè ñèñòåìè ñ îòâîðåí êîä ïðåäè íàñ, íàïðèìåð Ôðàíöèÿ, êîÿòî îò÷èòà ñðèâ íà âðåìåòî, ïðåç êîèòî ñúðâúðèòå è ðàáîòíèòå ñòàíöèè íå ñà ðàáîòèëè, îò îêîëî 1000 % íàäîëó. Ñèìåîí -- ... You can never make something idiot proof because the idiots are so clever! -- Best regards, Simeonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Luben, Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî? - -- Best regards, Yovko D. Lambrev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAOzss4YYvSZW0EKU7AQHf9wf/Q2AW8QLfC8qZ5c80Gu3Y5mcZ6wmUzUgC PfB7JtSLWyLENrZbbT49EhzoXATTUtBj1V0kHvc24ZDsPgGLYYB49t1kiCW+rH8v ZIPlU1mFJVZ8R/lnkyQZvc38WqHV+kL3XJbLVeWX5GVPycmKSh6nZcOpxyyixriL +Oj0tr7mykzDsFfV8ESeu/rcr7iLGeOPTSYo8cMM54d0VM2MN6DkalqGBYvk7ksL iuqtWGvohH3EHezhL2VVjbEOuVEbMy34NyaJ2HwFkUa6PRjWtid7kcDagNpWwyiO 5QaXtVArYJyg6cJhJ+E63B5ABFFchPdMnnK6kvLHxXZFCXgIw61gCw== =UBaF -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Luben, Thursday, June 28, 2001, 2:49:18 PM, you wrote: spored men dyrzhavata ima podanici, a obshtestvoto grazhdani ako e grazhdansko, t.e. ako vseki e otgovoren za sobstvenata si pozicia i mozhe da ia nalozhi pri upravlenieto na syotvetnata dyrzhava. Ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ñè ïðàâ - íèå ñìå ãðàæäàíè íà Áúëãàðèÿ, à íå ïîäàíèöè - è ïîíåæå òîâà òî÷íî â íàøè äíè å àäñêè ùåêîòëèâ âúïðîñ íÿìà äà å çëå äà ïðîìåíèì äóìàòà íà íÿêîÿ ïî-áåçîïàñíà îòêúì ïîëèòè÷åñêè ñêàíäàëè àêî íÿêîé òîëêîâà íå èñêà òàì äà èìà ãðàæäàíè, êîåòî ñïîðåä ìåí å ïðàâèëíèÿ òåðìèí (ïñåâäî-ñèíîíèìè: íàðîä, õîðà, îáùåñòâî è ò.í.) - -- Best regards, Yovko D. Lambrev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAOzs1boYvSZW0EKU7AQFeBQf+JxJPax4f90rQn0XY7TLNeK2DMcqfO7Ys VYnnmMqB+TZ9brKi9ZMC0rwywArr1KO97TgahSzNUKna0zp/vP4bkosC15l4o6TN iV2jy1xPbHIvWmtfuHi/zcfzBKhw7OAYjnZ2ETCz5NuHV9vTnnIsEvTInvz9dp7D 7gfNdyE4xLrzowRNjmhpejTKKBoftGA4FG04u88rgX8LWrR9XewzDLk6226iHPWj 07ddAjJ3r4dLd19PJJik7Hn79gse5lcM4oGsIpVfbq1lKt+sIaXGI+a96P1sGAAR yrdqA8J0JFwVfvLIjQwrqkp2uQNZ53eEQh9k86T201NdkKAGh6t9JA== =ukhh -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
Hello Luben, Thursday, June 28, 2001, 4:59:32 PM, you wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:10:43PM +0300, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Luben, Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî? - -- Best regards, Yovko D. Lambrev napravih, go - po default e bez komentarite, no mozhesh da gi vizdash po ordelni ili vyv staria format Ìèñëÿ, ÷å òàêà å ïî-äîáðå! Thanks! -- Best regards, Yovko D. Lambrev === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote: Hello Luben, Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî? Luben, Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :( . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:30:08PM +0300, Valery Dachev wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote: Hello Luben, Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî? Luben, Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :( ami ezika triabva da e bulgarski. strannoto che i az kato napravih test s lynx, kazva che ne se prazhtat neobhodimite poleta. s links raboti, syshto s mozilla, ie. za drugo ne znam. i az se chudia kakav mozhe da e problema? . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora -- _ Luben Karavelov[phone] +359 2 9877088 Network Administrator [ICQ#] 34741625 ~ PGP signature
Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:30:08PM +0300, Valery Dachev wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yovko D. Lambrev wrote: Hello Luben, Ñïèñúêà ñ ïîäïèñàëèòå ïèñìîòî íàðàñòâà - íå å ëè ïî-äîáðå, äà ñå èçîáðàçÿâàò ñàìî èìåíàòà íà õîðàòà, êîéòî ñà ãî ïîäïèñàëè áåç êîìåíòàðèòå èëè òå äà ñå ïîÿâÿâàò ïðè ïîèñêâàíå - òàêà ñêîðî ìîæå ñòðàíè÷êàòà äà ñòàíå ìíîãî äúëãà è äà ñå âëà÷è òåæêî è äúëãî? Luben, Az neshto ne moga da se zapisha ... weche dwa pyti se opitwam da se zapisha, no mi ipljuwa nqkakwa greshka na izwynzemen ezik ... :( . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev OK, opravih go, okaza se che lynx ne prashta nesdhto kakto triava multipart/form-data. sega trabva da raboti. . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora -- _ Luben Karavelov[phone] +359 2 9877088 Network Administrator [ICQ#] 34741625 ~ PGP signature
Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
Hello Luben, Tuesday, June 26, 2001, 8:48:07 AM, you wrote: Luben On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:14:04AM -0700, ggg wrote: niakoi ot vas (ako ne se laja Al.Shopov) sabirashe vaprosi za interviu s prezidenta i predstavitelia na MS ,koito beshe v BG , niama li da e po lesno ako toi zip-ne vsi4ki polu4eni predlojenia i ti gi prati? zashtoto pismoto e s niakak bedno zvu4ene , a da ne go vorim , 4e termina otvoren kod nadali govori mnogo na horata ot darjavnata administracia , goliama 4ast ot koito na vaprosa: kakva OS polzvate? otgovariat ubeditelno - MS WORD !. georgi Luben ami az si mislia che ima i takiva deto ne misliat MSWord za OS. Luben I tochno kym tiah e nasocheno pismoto. Luben Celta na pismoto ne e da interviewira dyrzhavnata administracia, Luben a da oburne vnimanie na obshtestvoto v/u neshto, koeto smiatame Luben za vashno. tova znachi che nie pitame za neshto konkretno. a Luben principno zhanra na pismoto e razlichen ot interview. tyi che Luben niama zashto neumestno da se povtariame s al.shopov. razbira se Luben ako toi dobavi neshto kym pismoto ili dade niakoi syvet, shtoto Luben po-razbira ot nas niakoi neshta, dobre doshlo. puk ako az iskam Luben da pitam prezidenta zashto politikata na dyrzhavata e da tolerira Luben MS, shte se obyrna kym nego, ta da zadade i tozi vypros. Luben Luben A eto i edno dobro predlozhenie ot edin friend kojto ne e chlen na LUG: (dadoh mu URL-to) - paste log Delwin_ predlagam da ima i site i koito go podkrepia da se podpisva tam .. Delwin_ estestveno *ne* anonimno Delwin_ kato na liux counter Delwin_ ==linux --- end I v dopylnenie na mediite da se dade rezultata -- kolko sa go podkrepili. -- ... You can never make something idiot proof because the idiots are so clever! -- Best regards, Simeonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Otvoreno pismo
da, nqkoi .bg sites ve4e pravqt takova glasuwane , rezultatite sa dosta optimislti4ni: Êàê ùå ðåàãèðàòå íà îáó÷åíèå íà Linux â ó÷èëèùå/óíèâåðñèòåòà http://linux-bg.exco.net/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=votesact=votecmd=addvid=21vy=2001x=12y=10 Predpolagam 4e sobstvenicite na tozi site nqma da imat nisto protiv da ka4at i nasheto pismo za glasuwane , no neka purvo da se iz4isti dostatu4no text-a , i da se vidi dali grupata kato cqlo go odobrqwa , i eventualno kak ste se podpishe pismoto . Vajnoto e da ima iniciativnost i predlojeniq v posoka open/free ot strana na potrebitelite , puk dano i durjavata se orientira po tqh . On Wednesday 27 June 2001 06:30, you wrote: Hello Luben, Tuesday, June 26, 2001, 8:48:07 AM, you wrote: Luben On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:14:04AM -0700, ggg wrote: niakoi ot vas (ako ne se laja Al.Shopov) sabirashe vaprosi za interviu s prezidenta i predstavitelia na MS ,koito beshe v BG , niama li da e po lesno ako toi zip-ne vsi4ki polu4eni predlojenia i ti gi prati? zashtoto pismoto e s niakak bedno zvu4ene , a da ne go vorim , 4e termina otvoren kod nadali govori mnogo na horata ot darjavnata administracia , goliama 4ast ot koito na vaprosa: kakva OS polzvate? otgovariat ubeditelno - MS WORD !. georgi Luben ami az si mislia che ima i takiva deto ne misliat MSWord za OS. Luben I tochno kym tiah e nasocheno pismoto. Luben Celta na pismoto ne e da interviewira dyrzhavnata administracia, Luben a da oburne vnimanie na obshtestvoto v/u neshto, koeto smiatame Luben za vashno. tova znachi che nie pitame za neshto konkretno. a Luben principno zhanra na pismoto e razlichen ot interview. tyi che Luben niama zashto neumestno da se povtariame s al.shopov. razbira se Luben ako toi dobavi neshto kym pismoto ili dade niakoi syvet, shtoto Luben po-razbira ot nas niakoi neshta, dobre doshlo. puk ako az iskam Luben da pitam prezidenta zashto politikata na dyrzhavata e da tolerira Luben MS, shte se obyrna kym nego, ta da zadade i tozi vypros. Luben Luben A eto i edno dobro predlozhenie ot edin friend kojto ne e chlen na LUG: (dadoh mu URL-to) - paste log Delwin_ predlagam da ima i site i koito go podkrepia da se podpisva tam .. Delwin_ estestveno *ne* anonimno Delwin_ kato na liux counter Delwin_ ==linux --- end I v dopylnenie na mediite da se dade rezultata -- kolko sa go podkrepili. -- ... You can never make something idiot proof because the idiots are so clever! === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora