Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Pentchev
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-15 Thread Dean Stoeff

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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Dean Stoeff
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Dean Stoeff wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
On Friday 11 March 2005 11:01, Dean Stoeff wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Vasil Kolev
On , 2005-03-11 at 13:24 +0200, Aleksandar Valchev wrote:
 
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Dean Stoeff

 
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-11 Thread Hristo Erinin
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:38:51 +0200
Vasil Kolev wrote:

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lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Rossen Naydenov
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Denislav Ganchev
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
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On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:53, Denislav Ganchev wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Vesselin Kolev
Aleksandar Valchev wrote:
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http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2004/12/rpm-openpgp-1.html
http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2004/12/rpm-openpgp-2.html
http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2005/01/rpm-openpgp-3.html
 
   

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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
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On Tuesday 08 March 2005 11:26, Vesselin Kolev wrote:
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 http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2004/12/rpm-openpgp-1.html
 http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2004/12/rpm-openpgp-2.html
 http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2005/01/rpm-openpgp-3.html

   
 


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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Vesselin Kolev
Aleksandar Valchev wrote:
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http://hardtrance.blogspot.com/2005/01/rpm-openpgp-3.html
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Rossen Naydenov
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~ it can be used to verify the integrity of the files. It has several
~ message digest algorithms (md5,sha1,rmd160,tiger,haval,etc.) that are
~ used to check the integrity of the file. More algorithms can be added
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Valchev
 aide.   ,   
.  
mysql  postrege
... plaintext...
,
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,
. ,   
, 
 
( - , 
). 

  . 

, 
  ,
. 
  :   
md5
,   ,   

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On Tuesday 08 March 2005 14:02, Rossen Naydenov wrote:
 AIDE(http://sourceforge.net/projects/aide)   :
 ~ It creates a database from the regular expression rules
 ~ that it finds from the config file. Once this database is initialized
 ~ it can be used to verify the integrity of the files. It has several
 ~ message digest algorithms (md5,sha1,rmd160,tiger,haval,etc.) that are
 ~ used to check the integrity of the file. More algorithms can be added
 ~ with relative ease. All of the usual file attributes can also be checked
 ~ for inconsistencies.

  AIDE.

 Aleksandar Valchev wrote:
 |  , rpm-   
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Hristo Erinin
,

  
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:07:05 +0200
Vesselin Kolev wrote:

 Aleksandar Valchev wrote:
 
   rpm-   . 
   
 
,  
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 RPM  MD5  SHA1   .  
 
 BerkeleyDB.   (   ) 
  .
 
   .
 
 1)   
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Re: lug-bg: Софтуер за следене на файлове

2005-03-08 Thread Boris Jordanov / Борис Йорданов
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