Re: lug-bg: Kylix Problem

2004-07-19 Thread Dean Stoeff


 Kylix  Fedora Core 2,   
   . Borland C Builder X.
  :)

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix Problem

2004-07-19 Thread Dean Stoeff
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  - default  
 ,   Kylix.

  -:)
Linux-a  e Debian Woody 3. 
 

  - winwow manager-aKylix

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lug-bg: Kylix Problem

2004-07-16 Thread Dimitar Terziev
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  - default  
 ,   Kylix.

  -:)

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix Problem

2004-07-16 Thread
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 Kylix  Fedora Core 2,   
   . Borland C Builder X.

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-11 Thread Zhasmin Zhelev
Dean Stoeff wrote:

 ,   ru_RU   
BG-   Kylix-  KOI8-R  
 Win CP1251 
 Linux-Kylix 
  KOI8-R.

 bg_BG  ru_RU,   ru_RU.cp1251 / Slack 9/
 ru_RU.CP1251 / Slack 9.1 
/
 startdelphi   
LANG=ru_RU.cp1251  LANG=ru_RU.CP1251
  
LANG=bg_BG

- cp1251 
windows- 

 . ;-)
 , ,. 
  , .   
-   
 ,   ?.   
 !!!

   Slack 9.1 + Kylix 3 Ent + FireBird 1.5 (cp1251 ).

KDE -cp1251?,  
 - ,  .


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Re: lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-11 Thread Dean Stoeff


 . ;-)
   :)  

 , ,
.   , . 
  - 
   ,   ?.  
  !!!

   screenshots :)
http://www.vizicomp.com/snapshot1.png
http://www.vizicomp.com/snapshot2.png
  KDE 3.0.1

   Slack 9.1 + Kylix 3 Ent + FireBird 1.5 (cp1251 
).
slack 9.1/FireBird-  
   /

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: Kylix na Bylgarski za Slack 9.1


Znachi po podrobno za Kirilizaciata na Kylix-a na Slack 9.1

Zapochwame ot chista Instalaciq na Slack neobhodimo e i da se instalirat
localite i18n i syshto i na KDE-to kdei
sledkoeto instalirame bglinux V4
prikomanda set-bulgarian-envairupment w nikakw slichai ne mu pozwolqwaj
da si modificira dor.files ot tipa na
.Xresources i .xsession
ewentualno ako se nalovi izpylni rychno scripta
~/.xcyrillic
sled towa se kopirat windowskite ttf shriftowe
w directoriqta /usr/X11/lib/fonts/TTF/
wytre w neq
chmod 644
mkfontscale -e microsoft-cp1251
mkfontdir
sled koeto se restartira KDE-to
ako se nalovi ot ControlCenter-System-FontInstaller
se actiwirat shriftowete ot /usr/X11/lib/fonts/TTF
kato se zadawa Enconding CP1251 pri generiraneto na spisacite
sled tows
ln /usr/local/lib/locale/bg_BG.CP1251 /usr/lib/locale/ru_RU.CP1251 -s
i nakrq si pachwash startdelphi i startkylix filowete po sledniq nachi
etoti startdelphi
#!/bin/bash
# BEGIN STRING TABLE
#export LC_ALL=ru_RU.CP1251
LANG=ru_RU.CP1251
KYDEF_LOCALE=bg_BG
LC_ALL_IS_C1=The LC_ALL environment variable is set to C.  Kylix cannot
start with this setting.
LC_ALL_IS_C2=Defaulting LC_ALL to
# END STRING TABLE

if [ -z $LANG ]; then
   LANG=$KYDEF_LOCALE
   export LANG
fi
if [ $LC_ALL = C ]; then
   echo $LC_ALL_IS_C1
   echo $LC_ALL_IS_C2 $KYDEF_LOCALE.
   LC_ALL=$KYDEF_LOCALE
   export LC_ALL
fi
source /home/kylix3/bin/kylixpath /home/kylix3 /dev/null
/home/kylix3/bin/delphi $*


 

copypaste:)

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-11 Thread
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 17:20, Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:
 KDE -cp1251?, 
  - ,  .

LANG=bg_BG  - LC_CTYPE=bg_BG ( 
bg_BG= bg_BG.cp1251).  Slackware 9.0, 9.1   (
  /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive - 
localedef -f CP1251 -i bg_BG bg_BG ( localedef -f UTF-8 -i bg_BG 
bg_BG.UTF-8   bg_BG= bg_BG.utf8)).

  : http://vstoykov.hit.bg/linuxdoc/bg-howto/bg_linux_howto_0_0_6.htm


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Re: lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-11 Thread Dean Stoeff
  wrote:

On Tuesday 11 May 2004 17:20, Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:
 

KDE -cp1251?, 
 - ,  .
   

LANG=bg_BG  - LC_CTYPE=bg_BG ( 
bg_BG= bg_BG.cp1251).  Slackware 9.0, 9.1   (
  /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive - 
localedef -f CP1251 -i bg_BG bg_BG ( localedef -f UTF-8 -i bg_BG 
bg_BG.UTF-8   bg_BG= bg_BG.utf8)).

  : http://vstoykov.hit.bg/linuxdoc/bg-howto/bg_linux_howto_0_0_6.htm

 

, !
 Kylix
/  .HOWTOs :)/


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lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-10 Thread Dean Stoeff

   Slack 9  9.1   dbexpress /  
 /  MySQL (   ,  
Slack 9.1)  FireBird 1.5.

 Kylix-a  , 
   , 
 !!!
 ,   ru_RU   
BG-   Kylix-  KOI8-R  
 Win CP1251  
Linux-Kylix 
  KOI8-R.

 bg_BG  ru_RU,   ru_RU.cp1251 / Slack 9/
 ru_RU.CP1251 / Slack 9.1 
/
 startdelphi   
LANG=ru_RU.cp1251  LANG=ru_RU.CP1251
  
LANG=bg_BG

- cp1251 
windows- 

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lug-bg: Kylix +SQL +Cyr +CP1251 +Delphi

2004-05-10 Thread Dean Stoeff
,  :)  Replay!

   Slack 9  9.1   dbexpress /  
 /  MySQL (   ,  
Slack 9.1)  FireBird 1.5.

 Kylix-a  , 
   , 
 !!!


 ,   ru_RU   
BG-   Kylix-  KOI8-R  
 Win CP1251  
Linux-Kylix 
  KOI8-R.

 bg_BG  ru_RU,   ru_RU.cp1251 / Slack 9/
 ru_RU.CP1251 / Slack 9.1 
/
 startdelphi   
LANG=ru_RU.cp1251  LANG=ru_RU.CP1251
  
LANG=bg_BG

- cp1251 
windows- 

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lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread Zhasmin Zhelev
 ,   
.
:
 
Slackware 9.1
Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
  Kylix-dbExpress  
 :

Unable to Load libgds.so

 
 (FireBird).
 
.


 
 

..  3 



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Re: lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 02 February 2004 10:41, Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:
  ,   
 .
 :
 
   Slackware 9.1
   Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
   Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
   Kylix-dbExpress  
  :

 Unable to Load libgds.so

  
  (FireBird).
  
 .

 FireBird   ,  /usr/lib/libgds.so 
(  usr/lib/libgds.so.0)  /usr/lib/libgds.a  
   FireBird (  libs/libfirebird-*). , 
  libswindows build-a  FireBird.  
  ?  FireBird-  
 GNU/Linux  ,  forever.

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread Simeon Monov

 ,   
.
:
 
	Slackware 9.1
	Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
	Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
  Kylix-dbExpress  
 :

Unable to Load libgds.so

 
 (FireBird).
 
.
 
 
..  3 

 

 FireBird  FireBird   
. -   
-.   
.  
 libgds.so. FireBird 1.5 RC7  ,  
libgds.so  libgds.so.0/usr/lib   symlink,  
/opt/firebird/lib/libfbclient.so.1.5.0. ,   
 /opt/firebird/lib  firebird.msg  
/opt/firebird   -  interbase  firebird 1.0
libgds.so  interbase.msg -  ,firebird 1.5  .

 


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Re: lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:
 ,   
.
:
 
	Slackware 9.1
	Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
	Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
  Kylix-dbExpress  
 :

Unable to Load libgds.so

 
 (FireBird).
  ,  firebirdsql.org   .

   -   Firebird 1.5 RC8  
 . RPM-  tar.gz .
   ,
 libgds.so  tar.gz-to



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RE: lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread Zhasmin Zhelev
Blagodarq mnogo,
Instaliraneto na celiq FireBird server e reshenieto pone zasega.

Mersi na vsichki

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Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:
  ,   
 .
 :
  
   Slackware 9.1
   Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
   Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
   Kylix-dbExpress  
  :
 
 Unable to Load libgds.so
 
  
  (FireBird).

  ,  firebirdsql.org   .

   -   Firebird 1.5 RC8  
 . RPM-  tar.gz .   

   ,
 libgds.so  tar.gz-to




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Re: lug-bg: Kylix + FireBirdSQL + Slackware

2004-02-02 Thread Romeo Ninov
George Danchev wrote:

On Monday 02 February 2004 10:41, Zhasmin Zhelev wrote:

 ,   
.
:

Slackware 9.1
Kylix 3.0 Enterprise
Firebird 1.5 RC8 //Windows Server ()
  Kylix-dbExpress  
 :
Unable to Load libgds.so

 
 (FireBird).
 
.


 FireBird   ,  /usr/lib/libgds.so 
(  usr/lib/libgds.so.0)  /usr/lib/libgds.a  
   FireBird (  libs/libfirebird-*). , 
  libswindows build-a  FireBird.  
  ?  FireBird-  
 GNU/Linux  ,  forever.

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libgds.sosubmit=Search+...


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Re: lug-bg: KYLIX BG-cyrillic

2003-12-15 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 15 December 2003 00:01, Ivan Petrov wrote:
 Zdravejte,

 Sled:
 $ export LANG=bg_BG

kakvo e tova bg_BG  v CP1251 li e ? 
# locale charmap kakvo dava

 $ startdelphi
 Poluchavam:
 Generating font matrix. Please wait...
 Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
 Could not find usable fonts for this locale.

 Sled:
 $ export LANG=bg_BG.ISO8859-5
 //v README kato workaround e napisano bg_BG.ISO-8859-5,
 no v /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias e bez parvia '-'
 $ startdelphi
 Poluchavam:
 Runtime error 230 at 414A8275

 Sas en_US i ru_RU.ISO8859-5 locale si varvi OK.

ideq nqmam zasto e taka, no qvno ne se poddyrzhat vsi4ki lokalni encodings 
(kato cp1251 i t.n.) ot kylix-a, a samo nqkoi. Opitaj s bg_BG.UTF-8 (unicode 
fonts vqrvam imash) .. ako i taka ne stane, pishi na Borland ako iskat da 
vzimat merki ...

 Distribuciata e Slackware 9.0

 Ako niakoj e uspial da go podkara na kirilica, MOLIA da osveti havata kak
 stava!

sorry, nqmam kylix.

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lug-bg: KYLIX BG-cyrillic

2003-12-14 Thread Ivan Petrov
Zdravejte,

Sled:
$ export LANG=bg_BG
$ startdelphi
Poluchavam:
Generating font matrix. Please wait...
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Could not find usable fonts for this locale.

Sled:
$ export LANG=bg_BG.ISO8859-5
//v README kato workaround e napisano bg_BG.ISO-8859-5,
no v /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias e bez parvia '-'
$ startdelphi
Poluchavam:
Runtime error 230 at 414A8275

Sas en_US i ru_RU.ISO8859-5 locale si varvi OK.

Distribuciata e Slackware 9.0

Ako niakoj e uspial da go podkara na kirilica, MOLIA da osveti havata kak 
stava!

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lug-bg: Kylix cyr

2002-05-27 Thread Jovko Jovkov

Nqkoi do sega uspqval li e da podkara kirilitsata na kylix (moqta versiq e
kylix2_trial enterprice)

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lug-bg: Kylix v.2

2001-11-02 Thread Beezdi Beezdi

Hi,

Nikoi da kaze URL za download na Kylix ver. 2.x ?

Dimitar


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Re: lug-bg: Kylix na Slackware!

2001-05-02 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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a libc-ta updatewa li ?

shtoto az si installnah edni za kylix-a otdelno

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lug-bg: Kylix na Slackware!

2001-04-28 Thread Bobsan Bobsanski


Reshenieto za instalirane na Kylix na Slack e w slednia nomer: kogato go 
instalirash prosto ne triabwa da si kato root! Logwash se kato obiknowen 
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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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abe ima oshte kwo da mu se naprawi ama ...
az sega smqtam da go pusna ...
tykmo zapochwam work...
ama maj nqma da imam wreme za nego...
kakto i da e...
pyrwo trqbwa da se pogrivat za instalaciqta...
ako shte e taka nqma da sa mnogo horata deto shte go slovat

a i oshte neshte
neznam dali nqkoj ot was zabelqza ama towa chudo e bazirano na engine-a
na wine :)
probwajte da go pusnete pod console i shte widite edno ot msg-tata na wine...
to dori i zapochwa s :
WINE: 


On Wednesday 25 April 2001 17:42, you wrote:
  tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi',
  za syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)

 mi az kylix go vijdam kato sreda za vsichki delphi programisti
 prexvurlqshti se ot windows na linux. mislq che shte pasne dobre v linux.

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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az mislq che towa nqma da e problem skoro...
no da ne goworq gluposti predwaritelno ... 1st iskam da go widq :)


On Thursday 26 April 2001 03:46, you wrote:
 imam ranna beta wersia na C++ kompilatora za kylix (kakto e CBuilder za
 winboze), taka che
 ako pascal-a ti e problema skoro i nego niama da go ima..
 problema pyk na men mi e w nedokumentiranite sys funkcii na QT...ne znam ot
 kyde da gi dobaram
 i sega funkcii kato GetCurrDir ili FindFirst/FindNext raboteshti w
 winbozeto ne moga da prenapisha za
 kylix shoto api-tata sa drugi...nikyde nishto ne pishe za tiah...da ne
 goworim za lib.so analoga na dll-ite
 w win :

 At 16:50 25.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0200, you wrote:
   nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?
  
   pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
   po tochno s rpm-to
   che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
   i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno
 
 Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
 ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da
 se patch dl* funkcii
 
 po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html
 
 tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za
 syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)
 
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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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da ... fpc-to e weliko...
az go polzwah dosta wreme ...
haresa mi che e naprawen kato BP..
ima zamestiteli na powecheto unit-i
dori imashe poddryvka na BGI li beshe ili neshto takowa
ako nqkoj e pisal grafichni priloveniq (ne za windows) na BP
raboti super (s svgalib)
az bqh mnogo dowolen...
polzwal sym go na slack ne e zadylvitelno da si s debian :)
no prosto go nqma na paketi...
otiwash na site-a i si go DL

On Wednesday 25 April 2001 19:00, you wrote:
 edin  dobur compil za Pascal :http://www.freepascal.org

  ima go v nqkolko file formata i za nqkolko architekturi   .
 fpc se kazwa ( free pascal compiler) . Az li4no go polzwam ot wreme na
 wreme , ne moga da kaja losha duma za nego + tova compilira i nqkoi
 source-ove napisani na delphi. Ako si s Debian edinstvenoto koeto trqbwa da
 napravish e da si instalirash slednite Packages :
 fp-compiler   ( Compiler-a)
 fp-units-rtl( Runtime libs)
 fp-utils
 fp-docs

 poslednite 2 sa optional

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lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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basi
na ftp-to na borland ima nqkwi patchowe za glibc-to ...

glibc_mandrake.tar.gz. . . . . .  [Mar  7 16:15]  72978k
ima i za redhat i za suse ...
72MB patch ?
po weroqtno e da e binary-ta
ama 72 MB ?!?


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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Rumen Krasstev

principno na dwete cd-ta, koito sym uplodnal (predpolagam ot tam si go 
wzel) ima mnogo toolsowe,
oswen direktoriata patch (oficialno kylix poddyrja RedHat 6.2, 7.0; SuSe 
7.0, Mandrake 7.0), ostanalite (razbirai Debian i Slack)
dishat dylboko...wypreki towa pod Debian mojesh da go pusnesh ako se 
updatenesh glibc-to do 2.2.2 (woody e nestabilen obeche ne zabrawiai!)
a mojesh da naprawish i kato menminah na Progeny Debian (mnogo e kefski 
i e stable kato wseki Debian ), koito skoro shte uplodna i nego...
tam ima w bazowata inst, stable glibc...za sega samo w RedHat 7.1 ima 
takawa (w 7.0 ne e stabilna, dori i sled patch !!!)...polojenieto za
Slack obache ne e tolkowa rozowo...ako namerish reshenie obezatelno se 
obadi, zashtoto imam niakolko frenda na slack (magaretata neshtat da
minat na deb) i mnogo se iadoswat che ne mogat da si pusnat kylix-aqt 
paketa syshto ne e losho da si updatnesh...

At 11:11 26.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0300, you wrote:
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x - 4.0.3
kde - 2.1.1


On Thursday 26 April 2001 03:42, you wrote:
  S koia werisia na X si i wmanager ?
 
  At 14:56 25.4.2001 'ã.' +0300, you wrote:
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  nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?
  
  pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
  po tochno s rpm-to
  che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
  i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno
  
  naj weche problema s depowete
  kakto i da e...
  sega imam drug problem
  sled kato gi instalirah
  
  puskam go sys startkylix... za da si nasetwa malko promenliwi
  
  sled koeto X-a mi umira sys SIG11 (SegFault)
  towa stawa sled kato kylix-a mi napishe
  generating matrix... dryndryn
  ili font matrix ... neshto takowa
  ne obyrnah wnimanie
  
  kakwo li ne opitwah no ne uspqh da go podkaram
  i + towa kernela mi buchi na syslog-a:
  
  kernel: Sound: Recording overrun
  
  ?!?
  nqkoj da ima predloveniq ?
  
  
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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Rumen Krasstev

imam gi dokumentite ot tam, no ne sa dostatychno podrobni, pochti ne 
wyrshat rabota :(((


At 19:16 25.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0300, you wrote:
na http://www.trolltech.com/developer/
proveri li kvi docs ima za qt . Puk ne verwam ako zapitash trolltech za
nqkakva documentaciq da ti otkajat :).

KDE developers library  susto , predlaga  dosta tutorials , ref guides
http://developer.kde.org/

On Thursday 26 April 2001 03:46, you wrote:
  imam ranna beta wersia na C++ kompilatora za kylix (kakto e CBuilder za
  winboze), taka che
  ako pascal-a ti e problema skoro i nego niama da go ima..
  problema pyk na men mi e w nedokumentiranite sys funkcii na QT...ne znam ot
  kyde da gi dobaram
  i sega funkcii kato GetCurrDir ili FindFirst/FindNext raboteshti w
  winbozeto ne moga da prenapisha za
  kylix shoto api-tata sa drugi...nikyde nishto ne pishe za tiah...da ne
  goworim za lib.so analoga na dll-ite
  w win :
 
  At 16:50 25.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0200, you wrote:
nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?
   
pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
po tochno s rpm-to
che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno
  
  Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
  ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da
  se patch dl* funkcii
  
  po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html
  
  tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za
  syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)
  
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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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On Thursday 26 April 2001 21:59, you wrote:
 principno na dwete cd-ta, koito sym uplodnal (predpolagam ot tam si go
 wzel) ima mnogo toolsowe,
ne e ot tam qwno...
nqmam tools-owe imam samo 25 rar-a :)

 oswen direktoriata patch (oficialno kylix poddyrja RedHat 6.2, 7.0; SuSe
 7.0, Mandrake 7.0), ostanalite (razbirai Debian i Slack)
 dishat dylboko...wypreki towa pod Debian mojesh da go pusnesh ako se
 updatenesh glibc-to do 2.2.2 (woody e nestabilen obeche ne zabrawiai!)
 a mojesh da naprawish i kato menminah na Progeny Debian (mnogo e kefski
 i e stable kato wseki Debian ), koito skoro shte uplodna i nego...
 tam ima w bazowata inst, stable glibc...za sega samo w RedHat 7.1 ima
 takawa (w 7.0 ne e stabilna, dori i sled patch !!!)...polojenieto za
 Slack obache ne e tolkowa rozowo...ako namerish reshenie obezatelno se
 obadi, zashtoto imam niakolko frenda na slack (magaretata neshtat da
 minat na deb) i mnogo se iadoswat che ne mogat da si pusnat kylix-aqt
 paketa syshto ne e losho da si updatnesh...

[.]

ami az sym na slack ... i sym na pyt da go pysna ...
i to ne chak tolkowa trydno kolkoto si mislih :)
nomera e da si installnesh rpm za instalaciqta...
posle Antoby pusna edna stranichka koqto ti reshawa problema s glibc-to
http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html

a towa da mina na druga distribuciq nqma da stane :)
ko shte i da si preprawq slack-a na debian ili redhat ...
no w osnowata si shte ostane slack :)
(loqlnost kym pyrwata mi i posledna distribuciq) :)

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-26 Thread Rumen Krasstev

razbiram te napylno ;-)))

...may the source be with you.


At 12:37 26.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0300, you wrote:
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On Thursday 26 April 2001 21:59, you wrote:
  principno na dwete cd-ta, koito sym uplodnal (predpolagam ot tam si go
  wzel) ima mnogo toolsowe,
ne e ot tam qwno...
nqmam tools-owe imam samo 25 rar-a :)

  oswen direktoriata patch (oficialno kylix poddyrja RedHat 6.2, 7.0; SuSe
  7.0, Mandrake 7.0), ostanalite (razbirai Debian i Slack)
  dishat dylboko...wypreki towa pod Debian mojesh da go pusnesh ako se
  updatenesh glibc-to do 2.2.2 (woody e nestabilen obeche ne zabrawiai!)
  a mojesh da naprawish i kato menminah na Progeny Debian (mnogo e kefski
  i e stable kato wseki Debian ), koito skoro shte uplodna i nego...
  tam ima w bazowata inst, stable glibc...za sega samo w RedHat 7.1 ima
  takawa (w 7.0 ne e stabilna, dori i sled patch !!!)...polojenieto za
  Slack obache ne e tolkowa rozowo...ako namerish reshenie obezatelno se
  obadi, zashtoto imam niakolko frenda na slack (magaretata neshtat da
  minat na deb) i mnogo se iadoswat che ne mogat da si pusnat kylix-aqt
  paketa syshto ne e losho da si updatnesh...
 
[.]

ami az sym na slack ... i sym na pyt da go pysna ...
i to ne chak tolkowa trydno kolkoto si mislih :)
nomera e da si installnesh rpm za instalaciqta...
posle Antoby pusna edna stranichka koqto ti reshawa problema s glibc-to
http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html

a towa da mina na druga distribuciq nqma da stane :)
ko shte i da si preprawq slack-a na debian ili redhat ...
no w osnowata si shte ostane slack :)
(loqlnost kym pyrwata mi i posledna distribuciq) :)

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lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?

pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
po tochno s rpm-to
che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno

naj weche problema s depowete
kakto i da e...
sega imam drug problem
sled kato gi instalirah

puskam go sys startkylix... za da si nasetwa malko promenliwi

sled koeto X-a mi umira sys SIG11 (SegFault)
towa stawa sled kato kylix-a mi napishe
generating matrix... dryndryn
ili font matrix ... neshto takowa
ne obyrnah wnimanie

kakwo li ne opitwah no ne uspqh da go podkaram
i + towa kernela mi buchi na syslog-a:

kernel: Sound: Recording overrun

?!?
nqkoj da ima predloveniq ?


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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread Antoby

 nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?

 pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
 po tochno s rpm-to
 che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
 i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno

Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da se patch dl* 
funkcii

po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html

tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za syshtoto 
wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread Rumen Krasstev

S koia werisia na X si i wmanager ?


At 14:56 25.4.2001 'ã.' +0300, you wrote:
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nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?

pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
po tochno s rpm-to
che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno

naj weche problema s depowete
kakto i da e...
sega imam drug problem
sled kato gi instalirah

puskam go sys startkylix... za da si nasetwa malko promenliwi

sled koeto X-a mi umira sys SIG11 (SegFault)
towa stawa sled kato kylix-a mi napishe
generating matrix... dryndryn
ili font matrix ... neshto takowa
ne obyrnah wnimanie

kakwo li ne opitwah no ne uspqh da go podkaram
i + towa kernela mi buchi na syslog-a:

kernel: Sound: Recording overrun

?!?
nqkoj da ima predloveniq ?


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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread George Danchev

edin  dobur compil za Pascal :http://www.freepascal.org  

 ima go v nqkolko file formata i za nqkolko architekturi   . 
fpc se kazwa ( free pascal compiler) . Az li4no go polzwam ot wreme na wreme 
, ne moga da kaja losha duma za nego + tova compilira i nqkoi source-ove 
napisani na delphi. Ako si s Debian edinstvenoto koeto trqbwa da napravish e 
da si instalirash slednite Packages :
fp-compiler   ( Compiler-a)
fp-units-rtl( Runtime libs)
fp-utils
fp-docs

poslednite 2 sa optional 
On Thursday 26 April 2001 03:46, you wrote:
 imam ranna beta wersia na C++ kompilatora za kylix (kakto e CBuilder za
 winboze), taka che
 ako pascal-a ti e problema skoro i nego niama da go ima..
 problema pyk na men mi e w nedokumentiranite sys funkcii na QT...ne znam ot
 kyde da gi dobaram
 i sega funkcii kato GetCurrDir ili FindFirst/FindNext raboteshti w
 winbozeto ne moga da prenapisha za
 kylix shoto api-tata sa drugi...nikyde nishto ne pishe za tiah...da ne
 goworim za lib.so analoga na dll-ite
 w win :

 At 16:50 25.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0200, you wrote:
   nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?
  
   pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
   po tochno s rpm-to
   che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
   i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno
 
 Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
 ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da
 se patch dl* funkcii
 
 po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html
 
 tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za
 syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)
 
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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread Rumen Krasstev

imam ranna beta wersia na C++ kompilatora za kylix (kakto e CBuilder za 
winboze), taka che
ako pascal-a ti e problema skoro i nego niama da go ima..
problema pyk na men mi e w nedokumentiranite sys funkcii na QT...ne znam ot 
kyde da gi dobaram
i sega funkcii kato GetCurrDir ili FindFirst/FindNext raboteshti w 
winbozeto ne moga da prenapisha za
kylix shoto api-tata sa drugi...nikyde nishto ne pishe za tiah...da ne 
goworim za lib.so analoga na dll-ite
w win :

At 16:50 25.4.2001 'ã.' Converted:  +0200, you wrote:
  nqkoj da e sreshtal problemi s kylix-a ?

  pri mene se nalovi da se poborim malko s instalaciqta...
  po tochno s rpm-to
  che ne mu haresa rpm-to koeto imah a da instalirash rpm na slackware
  i da go nakarash da wyrwi se okaza che ne e tolkowa lesno

Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da 
se patch dl* funkcii

po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html

tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za 
syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-25 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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[.]

 Da, malko po-slojno e otkolkoto si mislish :)
 ne e problemyt w rpm, kylix ne trygwa na slack zaradi glibc-to, trqbwa da
 se patch dl* funkcii
da znam che ne e zaradi rpm-to...
widqh che imashe neshto za glibc-to
ama sled kato testa mina i reshih che ne e nuvno da se patchwam :)
qwno towa e problema... 10x

 po-dobre wij: http://kylix.euro.ru/indexr.html

 tuk e opisana procedurata, ne znam struwa li si usiliqta za 'delphi', za
 syshtoto wreme moje da se nauchi neshto kato C :)
mi
sys C ot dosta wreme se zanimawam...
no ne e w towa ideqta mi...
pyrwiq ezik na kojto propisah beshe pascal...
posle delphi
i okolo 1.5-2.0 god sym pisal na delphi
i mi beshe interesno da widq kak se realizira w linux-a :)

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lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-24 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-24 Thread Rumen Krasstev

a kak taka ?
ne sam go pipal ?!?
toku shto prowerih...tam si e ?!?

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Re: lug-bg: kylix

2001-04-24 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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sorry greshkata e moq...
prosto si smenil direktoriqta qwno
browse-nah i si wzeh nowiq pyt

On Wednesday 25 April 2001 04:47, you wrote:
 a kak taka ?
 ne sam go pipal ?!?
 toku shto prowerih...tam si e ?!?

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lug-bg: Kylix Archive CRC ERRORS !!!!!!

2001-02-22 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

Sled dulgo chakane ( downloadvane )
RAR mi dava CRC error v niakolko files, ediniat otkoito e 
kylix_main_programs_ALABALA.rpm

???

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix

2001-02-22 Thread Nikolay Dimitrov Yourgandjiev

Nikolay Dimitrov Yourgandjiev wrote:

 Pri mene instalaciqta premina uspeshno, no sled towa ako go startiram kato
 root - tragwa, no kato drug user mi dawa slednata greshka:
 /bin/bash: /etc/profile.d/alias.sh: No such file or directory

 Kakwo bi sledwalo da ima watre w alias.sh?

 Thanks


Sorry. alias.sh go oprawih no sega mi dawa:
Runtime error 230 at 0808F275

Nqkakwi idej?

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Re: lug-bg: Kylix (fwd)

2001-02-21 Thread Rumen Krasstev

Jiv ili martav sam tam :-)))



At 20:54 20.2.2001 '.' +0200, Vasil Kolev wrote:

Tova mozhe i da se okazhe interesno za horata,koito se interesuvat ot
Kylix :


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:49:54 +0200
From: Nasko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kylix


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:33 PM
Subject: New info for the Kylix seminar - the date is 28th February


Please pay attention that

the date of the free

  Kylix Seminar is

28 th February, 2001



  '"Sofia" hall - World Trade Center - Interpred, 36 Dragan Tsankov Blvd, 
 Sofia, Bulgaria.

Please inform all who are interested about Kylix - Borland RAD for Linux.

The following agenda will be covered in English from Gyula Meszaros - 
Borland Hungary.

09:00 - 09:45 Registration
10:00 - 10:10 Opening / Corporate info
10:10 - 11:00 Kylix - A general overview
11:00 - 11:30 Coffee break
11:30 - 12:20 Kylix - Program structures, visual development

13:50 - 14:40 Kylix - Database application development,
DataCLX, dbExpress
14:40 - 15:10 Coffee break
15:10 - 16:00 Kylix - Web application development, NetCLX
Kylix - porting applications from Delphi for Windows
16:00 - Questions and Answers

Kylix Key Features:
Visual Design environment;
Apache web server development;
Open database architecture;
Natively compiled applications;
Component library for cross-platform development (CLX);
Delphi development for Linux;
Fully integrated debugger;
Royalty-free deployment of applications

Kylix is the fastest way to deliver Linux applications and give you the 
tools you need to get your applications to Linux fast;
Connect easily to your corporate databases with dbExpress high-speed 
database drivers for Oracle, DB2, InterBase, and MySQ;
Exploit the power of component-based development with CLX;
Build reliable applications;
Take control of the development and deployment of large projects ;
Accelerate your Apache web server development;
The fast lane for the Internet developer

For a complete list of features visit www.borland.com/Kylix

For additional information and contact:
Antoaneta Todorova - Borland Product Manager
tel: 02/ 9888 138; 02/ 9888 254
Power Partner Ltd
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Re: lug-bg: Kylix (fwd)

2001-02-21 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

I az i az 

 Original Message 

On 2/22/01, 12:52:57 AM, Rumen Krasstev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: 
lug-bg: Kylix (fwd):


 Jiv ili martav sam tam :-)))



 At 20:54 20.2.2001 '?.' +0200, Vasil Kolev wrote:

 Tova mozhe i da se okazhe interesno za horata,koito se interesuvat ot
 Kylix :
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:49:54 +0200
 From: Nasko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Kylix
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:33 PM
 Subject: New info for the Kylix seminar - the date is 28th February
 
 
 Please pay attention that
 
 the date of the free
 
   Kylix Seminar is
 
 28 th February, 2001
 
 
 
   '"Sofia" hall - World Trade Center - Interpred, 36 Dragan Tsankov Blvd,
  Sofia, Bulgaria.
 
 Please inform all who are interested about Kylix - Borland RAD for 
Linux.
 
 The following agenda will be covered in English from Gyula Meszaros -
 Borland Hungary.
 
 09:00 - 09:45 Registration
 10:00 - 10:10 Opening / Corporate info
 10:10 - 11:00 Kylix - A general overview
 11:00 - 11:30 Coffee break
 11:30 - 12:20 Kylix - Program structures, visual development
 
 13:50 - 14:40 Kylix - Database application development,
 DataCLX, dbExpress
 14:40 - 15:10 Coffee break
 15:10 - 16:00 Kylix - Web application development, NetCLX
 Kylix - porting applications from Delphi for Windows
 16:00 - Questions and Answers
 
 Kylix Key Features:
 Visual Design environment;
 Apache web server development;
 Open database architecture;
 Natively compiled applications;
 Component library for cross-platform development (CLX);
 Delphi development for Linux;
 Fully integrated debugger;
 Royalty-free deployment of applications
 
 Kylix is the fastest way to deliver Linux applications and give you the
 tools you need to get your applications to Linux fast;
 Connect easily to your corporate databases with dbExpress high-speed
 database drivers for Oracle, DB2, InterBase, and MySQ;
 Exploit the power of component-based development with CLX;
 Build reliable applications;
 Take control of the development and deployment of large projects ;
 Accelerate your Apache web server development;
 The fast lane for the Internet developer
 
 For a complete list of features visit www.borland.com/Kylix
 
 For additional information and contact:
 Antoaneta Todorova - Borland Product Manager
 tel: 02/ 9888 138; 02/ 9888 254
 Power Partner Ltd
 pl."Narodno sabranie" 9
 
 
 
 
 
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lug-bg: Kylix (fwd)

2001-02-20 Thread Vasil Kolev


Tova mozhe i da se okazhe interesno za horata,koito se interesuvat ot
Kylix : 


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:49:54 +0200
From: Nasko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kylix


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:33 PM
Subject: New info for the Kylix seminar - the date is 28th February


Please pay attention that

the date of the free

 Kylix Seminar is

28 th February, 2001



 '"Sofia" hall - World Trade Center - Interpred, 36 Dragan Tsankov Blvd, Sofia, 
Bulgaria.

Please inform all who are interested about Kylix - Borland RAD for Linux.

The following agenda will be covered in English from Gyula Meszaros - Borland Hungary.

09:00 - 09:45 Registration 
10:00 - 10:10 Opening / Corporate info
10:10 - 11:00 Kylix - A general overview
11:00 - 11:30 Coffee break
11:30 - 12:20 Kylix - Program structures, visual development

13:50 - 14:40 Kylix - Database application development, 
DataCLX, dbExpress
14:40 - 15:10 Coffee break
15:10 - 16:00 Kylix - Web application development, NetCLX
Kylix - porting applications from Delphi for Windows
16:00 - Questions and Answers

Kylix Key Features:
Visual Design environment;
Apache web server development;
Open database architecture;
Natively compiled applications;
Component library for cross-platform development (CLX);
Delphi development for Linux;
Fully integrated debugger;
Royalty-free deployment of applications

Kylix is the fastest way to deliver Linux applications and give you the tools you need 
to get your applications to Linux fast;
Connect easily to your corporate databases with dbExpress high-speed database drivers 
for Oracle, DB2, InterBase, and MySQ;
Exploit the power of component-based development with CLX;
Build reliable applications;
Take control of the development and deployment of large projects ;
Accelerate your Apache web server development;
The fast lane for the Internet developer

For a complete list of features visit www.borland.com/Kylix

For additional information and contact:
Antoaneta Todorova - Borland Product Manager 
tel: 02/ 9888 138; 02/ 9888 254
Power Partner Ltd
pl."Narodno sabranie" 9 




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