[Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

2010-04-22 Thread Janne Aho

Hi,

Today we have a storage system based on NFS, but we are really concerned 
about redundancy and are at the brink to take the step to a cluster file 
system as glusterfs, but we have got suggestions on that lusterfs would 
have been the best option for us, but at the same time those who 
recommended lusterfs has said that Oracle has pulled the plug and put 
the resources into OCFS2.
If using lusterfs in a production environment, it would be good to know 
that it won't be discontinued.

Will there be a long term future for lusterfs?
Or should we be looking for something else for a long term solution?

Thanks in advance for your reply for my a bit cloudy question.


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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

2010-04-22 Thread Michael Schwartzkopff
Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2010 08:33:14 schrieb Janne Aho:
 Hi,

 Today we have a storage system based on NFS, but we are really concerned
 about redundancy and are at the brink to take the step to a cluster file
 system as glusterfs, but we have got suggestions on that lusterfs would
 have been the best option for us, but at the same time those who
 recommended lusterfs has said that Oracle has pulled the plug and put
 the resources into OCFS2.
 If using lusterfs in a production environment, it would be good to know
 that it won't be discontinued.

 Will there be a long term future for lusterfs?
 Or should we be looking for something else for a long term solution?

 Thanks in advance for your reply for my a bit cloudy question.

Hi,

for me Lustre is a very good option.

But you also could consider a system composed from
- corosync for the cluster communication
- pacemaker as a cluster resource manager
- DRBD for the replication of data between nodes in a cluster

and

- NFS
or
- OCFS2 or GFS or ...

especially the NFS option provides you with a high available NFS server on 
real cluster stack all managed by pacemaker.

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

2010-04-22 Thread Janne Aho
On 22/04/10 08:56, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote:
On 22/04/10 08:53, Andreas Dilger wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2010 08:33:14 schrieb Janne Aho:
 Hi,

 Today we have a storage system based on NFS, but we are really concerned
 about redundancy and are at the brink to take the step to a cluster file
 system as glusterfs, but we have got suggestions on that lusterfs would
 have been the best option for us, but at the same time those who
 recommended lusterfs has said that Oracle has pulled the plug and put
 the resources into OCFS2.
 If using lusterfs in a production environment, it would be good to know
 that it won't be discontinued.

On 22/04/10 08:53, Andreas Dilger wrote:
 Whoever told you that is mis-informed.  We still have our full team 
 developing Lustre at Oracle, and are planning development into the future.

Andreas, thanks for the reply. :)


 Will there be a long term future for lusterfs?
 Or should we be looking for something else for a long term solution?

 Thanks in advance for your reply for my a bit cloudy question.

On 22/04/10 08:56, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote:


 for me Lustre is a very good option.

 But you also could consider a system composed from
 - corosync for the cluster communication
 - pacemaker as a cluster resource manager
 - DRBD for the replication of data between nodes in a cluster

Michael, thanks for the advice, we will take a big dive into this.

 and
 - NFS
 or
 - OCFS2 or GFS or ...

 especially the NFS option provides you with a high available NFS server on
 real cluster stack all managed by pacemaker.

We have had quite a deal of issues with our setup using NFS, one of the 
problems has been caused by poor file system selection thanks to the 
poor selection of file systems in CentOS/RedHat EL.


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[Lustre-discuss] Lustre loadgen error

2010-04-22 Thread Katya Tutlyaeva
Hi all,
I'm trying to test Lustre using loadgen, but got sergmentation fault error:
*
*I have succesfully added obdecho.ko on both OSS previously

[lustre]# loadgen
loadgen dev lustre-OST-osc
192.168.11...@o2ib
Added uuid OSS_UUID: 192.168.11...@o2ib
Target OST name is 'lustre-OST-osc'
loadgen st 3
start 0 to 3
loadgen: running thread #1
Segmentation fault


Meet same error on both OSS-es and client using any number of clients.

What's wrong?

_
Thanks,
Katya
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[Lustre-discuss] Newbie Q : 16TB OST with 1.8.2

2010-04-22 Thread Norberto Meijome
Hi,
I am looking at using Lustre 1.8.2 with Centos 5.3 or 5.4 64bit. I believe
this should support 16TB ext4/lsfdisk backed OSTs.

Is this correct ?

TIA!!
B
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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Newbie Q : 16TB OST with 1.8.2

2010-04-22 Thread Götz Waschk
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Norberto Meijome numard...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am looking at using Lustre 1.8.2 with Centos 5.3 or 5.4 64bit. I believe
 this should support 16TB ext4/lsfdisk backed OSTs.
 Is this correct ?

Hi Norberto,

yes, it does. I'm using it on Scientific Linux 5.4:

# lfs df -h /lustre/fs4/
UUID bytes  Used Available  Use% Mounted on
fs4-MDT_UUID895.9G471.9M844.3G0% /lustre/fs4[MDT:0]
fs4-OST_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:0]
fs4-OST0001_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:1]
fs4-OST0002_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:2]
fs4-OST0003_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:3]
fs4-OST0004_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:4]
fs4-OST0005_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:5]
fs4-OST0006_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:6]
fs4-OST0007_UUID 11.5T 27.1M 10.9T0% /lustre/fs4[OST:7]

filesystem summary:  92.2T216.5M 87.5T0% /lustre/fs4


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[Lustre-discuss] Lustre client bug (?)

2010-04-22 Thread Andrew Godziuk
Hi,

I'm not sure where I should report it but I couldn't find the error
text in Google so I guess it's not in bug tracker yet.

This appeared on CentOS 64-bit client under light traffic. Lustre
1.8.2 patchless client from Sun, Linux 2.6.28.10 #4 SMP, both without
custom patches. I'm not sure what more details I could supply.

mx1 kernel: LustreError:
20716:0:(statahead.c:149:ll_sai_entry_cleanup())
ASSERTION(list_empty(entry-se_list)) failed
Message from syslogd@ at Thu Apr 22 04:31:50 2010 ...
mx1 kernel: LustreError: 20716:0:(statahead.c:149:ll_sai_entry_cleanup()) LBUG

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Newbie Q : 16TB OST with 1.8.2

2010-04-22 Thread Kevin Van Maren
Norberto Meijome wrote:
 Hi,
 I am looking at using Lustre 1.8.2 with Centos 5.3 or 5.4 64bit. I 
 believe this should support 16TB ext4/lsfdisk backed OSTs.

 Is this correct ?

Yes, but not by default.

Kevin

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Newbie Q : 16TB OST with 1.8.2

2010-04-22 Thread Norberto Meijome
On 23 April 2010 00:21, Kevin Van Maren kevin.van.ma...@oracle.com wrote:

 Norberto Meijome wrote:

 Hi,
 I am looking at using Lustre 1.8.2 with Centos 5.3 or 5.4 64bit. I believe
 this should support 16TB ext4/lsfdisk backed OSTs.

 Is this correct ?


 Yes, but not by default.

 Kevin


thanks, Götz  Kevin.

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre client bug (?)

2010-04-22 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 16:36 +0200, Andrew Godziuk wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure where I should report it but I couldn't find the error
 text in Google so I guess it's not in bug tracker yet.

Hrm.  I'd not be too sure that Google has indexed the entire of our
Bugzilla.  Maybe it has, but searching it directly is probably more
definitive.

 This appeared on CentOS 64-bit client under light traffic. Lustre
 1.8.2 patchless client from Sun, Linux 2.6.28.10 #4 SMP, both without
 custom patches. I'm not sure what more details I could supply.
 
 mx1 kernel: LustreError:
 20716:0:(statahead.c:149:ll_sai_entry_cleanup())
 ASSERTION(list_empty(entry-se_list)) failed
 Message from syslogd@ at Thu Apr 22 04:31:50 2010 ...
 mx1 kernel: LustreError: 20716:0:(statahead.c:149:ll_sai_entry_cleanup()) LBUG

I can't find an existing bug in our bugzilla regarding this
ASSERTION/LBUG.  ASSERTION/LBUGs are logic conditions that were
unexpected.  They are also fatal errors that need the node to rebooted
to resolve.

Can you please a file a bug in our bugzilla about this one.  Please
attach the syslog from the node that hit the LBUG.  Include a few hours
of syslog prior to the LBUG if you can.

b.



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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

2010-04-22 Thread Ken Hornstein
Make sure you read and understand the Lustre 2.0 release notes before you
buy.  There seemed to be some specifics in there about using Oracle hardware.

In all fairness ... that only matters if you pay Oracle for support.  If
you aren't paying Oracle for support (or have no plans to), then it doesn't
matter.

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

2010-04-22 Thread Kevin Van Maren
If you read the presentation, at 
http://wiki.lustre.org/images/6/6f/LUG_Keynote_Presentation-Bojanic-100415.pdf
it does say that Lustre 2 will be supported on qualified configurations 
-- from Oracle and others.

Kevin


Lundgren, Andrew wrote:
 Make sure you read and understand the Lustre 2.0 release notes before you 
 buy.  There seemed to be some specifics in there about using Oracle hardware.

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 [mailto:lustre-discuss-boun...@lists.lustre.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Dilger
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:53 AM
 To: Janne Aho
 Cc: lusterfs
 Subject: Re: [Lustre-discuss] Future of LusterFS?

 On 2010-04-22, at 00:33, Janne Aho wrote:
   
 Today we have a storage system based on NFS, but we are really concerned 
 about redundancy and are at the brink to take the step to a cluster file 
 system as glusterfs, but we have got suggestions on that lusterfs would 
 have been the best option for us, but at the same time those who 
 recommended lusterfs has said that Oracle has pulled the plug and put 
 the resources into OCFS2.
 

 Whoever told you that is mis-informed.  We still have our full team 
 developing Lustre at Oracle, and are planning development into the future.

   
 If using lusterfs in a production environment, it would be good to know 
 that it won't be discontinued.

 Will there be a long term future for lusterfs?
 

 Yes.

 Cheers, Andreas
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 Principal Engineer, Lustre Group
 Oracle Corporation Canada Inc.

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Re: [Lustre-discuss] fseeks on lustre

2010-04-22 Thread Ronald K Long
We were able to find where to tune the stat_blksize after loading the 
patch mentioned below and the fseek function is working correctly with 
this patch installed.

Thanks



Rocky 



After doing some more digging it looks as though a bug was reported on 
this in 2007.   

https://bugzilla.lustre.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12739 

We have loaded the patch for lustre attached to this bug, however when 
running the set_param command I am getting the following error.   

lctl set_param llite*.*.stat_blksize=4096 
error: set_param: /proc/{fs,sys}/{lnet,lustre}/llite/lustre*/stat_blksize: 
No such process 

Is this patch still valid for 2.6.9-78.0.22.EL_lustre.1.6.7.2smp 

Thanks again 

Rocky
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Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre loadgen error

2010-04-22 Thread Andreas Dilger
On 2010-04-22, at 05:23, Katya Tutlyaeva wrote:
 I'm trying to test Lustre using loadgen, but got sergmentation fault error:
 *
 *I have succesfully added obdecho.ko on both OSS previously
 
 [lustre]# loadgen
 loadgen dev lustre-OST-osc
 192.168.11...@o2ib
 Added uuid OSS_UUID: 192.168.11...@o2ib
 Target OST name is 'lustre-OST-osc'
 loadgen st 3
 start 0 to 3
 loadgen: running thread #1
 Segmentation fault
 
 
 Meet same error on both OSS-es and client using any number of clients.

I believe there is a fix for loadgen in bugzilla.

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