[LUTE] Montaigne
We have posted our Saturday quotes, more from Montaigne: [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-rP Ron & Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-rP To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far?
There are some alternatives though. Has anyone encountered similar problems with Vimeo? Regards Jaroslaw Wiadomość napisana przez David Smith w dniu 7 lip 2012, o godz. 10:19: > It will end with the death of the internet or ... > Definition: The internet is a semi-autonomous intelligence with the > intellectual capacity of a one-eyed newt. It is in the process of evolving > and will either die out, as other deficient species has, or it will evolve > into something useful, intelligent and mature. Until then all species > interacting with it will be in intense pain interspersed with occasional > moments of euphoria. The only risk is that it will evolve to the point where > our species is no longer needed... is that good or bad > > Regards > David > > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of Daniel F. Heiman > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:57 PM > To: 'David Tayler'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far? > > This process is amazingly intrusive. > > As part of my ongoing effort to post video from the recent LSA Summer > Seminar on the LuteSocietyofAmerica channel on YouTube, I posted privately a > section of raw video from the Participants' Concert so the performers could > audition it prior to editing and posting it. Note that there is no text in > the video, since I have not edited in the titles, and there is no meaningful > text on the descriptive page, only the filename: 20120629-01-Kathryn, and > the note that this is unedited video of their two lute songs. For this > unlisted video, I have been flagged for "matched third party content." > When I check on the reason, I learn that: > > "Your video may include the following copyrighted content: "DOWLAND: LADY, > IF YOU SO", musical composition administered by: One or more music > publishing rights collecting societies" > > The piece named is in fact the **second** song in the file. So someone has > been paid to create pattern matching software that checks the whole of every > video posted and to load a truly astounding number of sequences of notes > into the system. Where will this end? > > Scary. > > Daniel Heiman > > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of David Tayler > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 18:09 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: TRe: YouTube going too far? > >I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, they may claim that they > actually own it (and then they are real trolls, after all). Then you > have very little recourse. > --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Sauvage Valery wrote: > > From: Sauvage Valery > Subject: [LUTE] TRe: YouTube going too far? > To: "'Lute List'" > Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 7:55 AM > > I had often the same problem (Dowland, Narvaez, Milan, Bach...). I just > disput the claim and usually they automatically withdrawn. > Last one was about "la Cancion del Emperador"... I disput the claim (by > Harry Fox Cie) but they maintain it, I had to delete the video, then to > post > it again, they again claim on it and I argue in the disput with the > fact it > was published in Spain in 1538 (so public domain), that I played > myself, > from the original source and I add the following text : > "Music and lyrics published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain > in > the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public > domain. Public Domain music and songs may be used by anyone . . . > without > permission, without royalties, and without any limitations whatsoever." > And sayed that the Harry fox claim was an abuse of the copyright laws. > (I find the text quoted here : > [1]http://www.pdinfo.com/ ) > I think it is important to write : "Public domain", "original source", > and > to mention the date of publication of the music played (and country > too). > Valery > -Message d'origine- > De : [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] > De la part > de David van Ooijen Envoye : jeudi 5 juillet 2012 16:15 A : > [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far? > On 5 July 2012 16:05, Ron Andrico <[5]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> To make a long story short, the only words Youtube needs to see in >> response is that the music is in the Public Domain, or the person >> posting the music is the verified copyright holder. The challenge is >> then automatically withdrawn. > It is not. Because this is the second time YouTube challenges this > particular (and not at all popular) video. I'm not in it for the money, > but > coorperation claiming Greensleeves simply feels wrong. > I also post 'fingerstyle covers' of pop songs (I've just recorded > Paradise > by Sade, early music of sorts. I will upload later today). > Obviously these are far more popular, and obviously th
[LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far?
It will end with the death of the internet or ... Definition: The internet is a semi-autonomous intelligence with the intellectual capacity of a one-eyed newt. It is in the process of evolving and will either die out, as other deficient species has, or it will evolve into something useful, intelligent and mature. Until then all species interacting with it will be in intense pain interspersed with occasional moments of euphoria. The only risk is that it will evolve to the point where our species is no longer needed... is that good or bad Regards David -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel F. Heiman Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:57 PM To: 'David Tayler'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far? This process is amazingly intrusive. As part of my ongoing effort to post video from the recent LSA Summer Seminar on the LuteSocietyofAmerica channel on YouTube, I posted privately a section of raw video from the Participants' Concert so the performers could audition it prior to editing and posting it. Note that there is no text in the video, since I have not edited in the titles, and there is no meaningful text on the descriptive page, only the filename: 20120629-01-Kathryn, and the note that this is unedited video of their two lute songs. For this unlisted video, I have been flagged for "matched third party content." When I check on the reason, I learn that: "Your video may include the following copyrighted content: "DOWLAND: LADY, IF YOU SO", musical composition administered by: One or more music publishing rights collecting societies" The piece named is in fact the **second** song in the file. So someone has been paid to create pattern matching software that checks the whole of every video posted and to load a truly astounding number of sequences of notes into the system. Where will this end? Scary. Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Tayler Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 18:09 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: TRe: YouTube going too far? I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, they may claim that they actually own it (and then they are real trolls, after all). Then you have very little recourse. --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Sauvage Valery wrote: From: Sauvage Valery Subject: [LUTE] TRe: YouTube going too far? To: "'Lute List'" Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 7:55 AM I had often the same problem (Dowland, Narvaez, Milan, Bach...). I just disput the claim and usually they automatically withdrawn. Last one was about "la Cancion del Emperador"... I disput the claim (by Harry Fox Cie) but they maintain it, I had to delete the video, then to post it again, they again claim on it and I argue in the disput with the fact it was published in Spain in 1538 (so public domain), that I played myself, from the original source and I add the following text : "Music and lyrics published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain in the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public domain. Public Domain music and songs may be used by anyone . . . without permission, without royalties, and without any limitations whatsoever." And sayed that the Harry fox claim was an abuse of the copyright laws. (I find the text quoted here : [1]http://www.pdinfo.com/ ) I think it is important to write : "Public domain", "original source", and to mention the date of publication of the music played (and country too). Valery -Message d'origine- De : [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de David van Ooijen Envoye : jeudi 5 juillet 2012 16:15 A : [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far? On 5 July 2012 16:05, Ron Andrico <[5]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > To make a long story short, the only words Youtube needs to see in > response is that the music is in the Public Domain, or the person > posting the music is the verified copyright holder. The challenge is > then automatically withdrawn. It is not. Because this is the second time YouTube challenges this particular (and not at all popular) video. I'm not in it for the money, but coorperation claiming Greensleeves simply feels wrong. I also post 'fingerstyle covers' of pop songs (I've just recorded Paradise by Sade, early music of sorts. I will upload later today). Obviously these are far more popular, and obviously there are copyright holders involved who claim their share. Fair enough. But Greensleeves ... David -- *** David van Ooijen [6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://
[LUTE] Re: Grand unified theory of lute chords.
You may have to explain how this works thanks P On 27 June 2012 22:54, Herbert Ward <[1]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: Here is a single chord chart, from which you can easily derive all variants of all major chords, including those variants above the fifth fret. It shows how learning all the variants by memory has seemed more difficult that necessary, because we see the information piecemeal. In a few weeks I'll generate an analogous chart for minor chords. The URL is [2]http://classwk.net/auxDocs/lute_chords_grand_unified_theory.html To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Peter Martin 84 Victoria Terrace Stafford ST16 3HA tel: 01785 223722 mob: 07971 232614 [4]peter.l...@gmail.com -- References 1. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 2. http://classwk.net/auxDocs/lute_chords_grand_unified_theory.html 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:peter.l...@gmail.com
