[BAROQUE-LUTE] Tombeaux y lamenti

[r.turov...@gmail.com]

A very interesting article on tombeau (and lute), by Pablo del Pozo:
http://www.sineris.es/tombeaux2.html

Enjoy,
RT



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[LUTE] Saturday morning quotes - Angelic lutes

[Ron Andrico]

   We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this week from Burwell on
   Lutes and Angels.
   [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-147
   Ron  Donna

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[LUTE] Bach Prelude in C Minor

[David Tayler]

   For your weekend viewing (should you be so inclined) Bach's two minute
   wonder, the Prelude in C Minor BWV 999, pour le luth
   [1]Bach Prelude for lute BWV 999
   dt

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References

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[LUTE] Re: Seven courses versus eight.

[David Tayler]

   I've slightly revised my views on this, I think you can make a case
   that there are a couple of important pieces that are conceived in
   8-course tuning, but the number is small.
   It would seem on the basis of contrapuntal analysis that the version of
   Lacrimae of Dowland in G Minor was written for 8 course, as well as his
   other early work in Francisque. The problem is that in the span of just
   a few years, you start to see 9 courses and ten courses, and there's no
   way to match works with specific lutes within a short span of time.
   Also, there's many examples where you can play the F fretted. I think
   you can argue that there were early adopters, just like today, so there
   was a lot of overlap.
   So you can almost always use the 7c for the eight, but the fact is, the
   8c is almost always more resonant. You could argue that the 7 and 6
   sound more early, and I think that is for sure true. When in doubt,
   buy two, that is always the way of the LBA (lute buyers addiction).
   Also in terms of LBA, maximize the usefulness of your collection. So
   for example if you want to a play lute duets a tone apart, make one of
   the lutes a 6 or a 7c, and the other an 8 or 10, and use the lower one
   for English and French lute songs, as well as 8c-10c literature. It
   isn't like having two matched 7c for Pickering, but it keeps the LBS
   under control.
   8c is very popular--there's a reason for that. Sort of like a minivan
   with the sport suspension.
   dt
   On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:45 PM, Herbert Ward
   wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote:
   What is the extent and nature of the historical
   liturature which is playable on an 8-course
   Renassiance lute, but not on a 7-course?
   In other words, is a 7-course instrument a
   workable subsitute for an 8-course?
   This assumes the 7-course lutenist is willing
   to retune his 7th course between pieces.
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[LUTE] Re: Bach Prelude in C Minor

[David Tayler]

Thanks Tom,
I enclose a link to the ms. I think it is in the realm of guesswork what it was 
composed for, but, since so many people have recorded it on the lute and the 
guitar, this seems to be an indication that it lies well on the instrument. 
Sounds great on the harpsichord and lautenwerk. You can play it in several 
different tunings, and the piece sounds very different in different tunings, 
you can hear Hopkinson Smith's classic recording in a different tuning (just a 
picture, alas, but a very nice picture)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzVEe0ObiLE

As far as the source goes, I just played it off the manuscript, which was how 
many players back then played, it is in keyboard notation but you will notice 
that the top clef is in soprano clef, which is one of the most common clefs and 
eliminates a lot of the ledger lines:

http://www.jsbach.net/images/bwv999.jpg

You will notice someone has written an x in the penultimate bar, presumably 
to mark a wrong note. There are little dots to mark repeated bars.

Other versions by famous virtuosos of the lute include this marvelous rendition 
by David van Ooijen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCcvtGdAJ18

The Big E Flat:
A number of the versions change the low E Flat in m23 to a D. The E Flat is 
very dissonant, but it does spell out a 6/5 chord (with a raised 6)
E flat-G-Bflat_C Sharp, a chord that Bach often used as a substitute 
Neopolitan, so I left it as it is in the ms. It could be there is another 
version that has not the E Flat, so it would be cool to compare them if someone 
has it. The E flat resolves the suspended 7th of the previous E flat in m15 to 
a C sharp.
I cued up the exotic E Flat here
http://youtu.be/FnpaMm_2QYc?t=1m1s

If it's a mistake don't tell me :) Well, tell me. Fun, anyway.

And since you mentioned Gerwig (and I'm not old enough to have heard him play, 
well, almost, yikes)
You can hear quite a bit on Amazon (firmly in the E Flat camp)
http://www.amazon.com/Prelude-C-Minor-BWV-999/dp/B003TZCDHQ
Great performance by Gerwig.

dt








On Sat, 10/4/14, Heartistry Old t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Bach Prelude in C Minor
 To: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2014, 12:17 PM
 
 Beautiful!  
 Thanks.
 Can you tell me something of the history of this piece?
 i.e. was it composed in keyboard staff notation, then
 intabulated by somebody else?  Was it written for a
 particular player or for a particular occasion?  Are
 there any clear answers here, or mainly speculation?
   BTW, Walther Gerwig's recording of this helped get me
 interested in lutes.
   Thanks in advance,
  Tom
 
 Tom Draughon
 Heartistry Music
 www.heartistry.com
 715-682-9362
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Oct 4, 2014, at 1:17 PM, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:
  
    For your weekend viewing (should you
 be so inclined) Bach's two minute
    wonder, the Prelude in C Minor BWV
 999, pour le luth
    [1]Bach Prelude for lute BWV 999
    dt
  
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  References
  
    1. http://youtu.be/FnpaMm_2QYc
  
  
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