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TREE EDITION  New items February 2017

Series: The Rostock Lute Mss
Rostock 12
Ms Mus Saec XVIII-53,3 a-c
3 Parthies for Lute and Strings / 3 Parthien für Laute und Streicher
del Sign. Pichler
Facsimile / French Tablature / Baroque tuning / Euro 30.-

Francois le Cocq
- Recueil des Pieces de Guitarre, 1729
- Recueil des Pieces de Guitarre de meilleurs Maitres du siecle Dixseptieme
Pieces for Baroque Guitar / 158 pages / 2 volumes
Facsimile / French tablature / Euro 40.-

Alessandro Piccinini
Intavolatura di Liuto et di Chitarrone
Libro primo, 1623
Fasimile / Italian Tablature / Renaissance tuning 
148 pages / 2 volumes / Euro 40.-
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[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

And finally, the thesis by Roa Alonso, Francisco Javier (2016) :  "Alonso 
Mudarra, vihuelista en la casa del infantado y canónigo en la catedral de 
Sevilla" 
can be downloaded in pdf from here: http://eprints.ucm.es/39306/1/T37818.pdf

Have a look at pages 261 - 265 about the Fantasia 10 in question !

Re-best ;-) ,

Jean-Marie


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>Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017 22:37 CET, Mathias Rösel 
> schrieb: 
> 
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>> > and he wants to say that the false relations sound fine if played fast 
>> > enough.
>> > There are no "wrong" notes.
>
>Wait, wait! Nowhere does Mudarra mention speed at all. It's an easy to fall in 
>trap to claim to know
>what an author "wants to say", esp. if you are ignoring what he wrote - 
>"Algunas falsas tañiendo se bien 
>no pareçen mal"
>
>> Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false 
>> notes" in his fantasia.
>
>I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is 
>that why you put it in quotes?)
>
>"Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica ficta", 
>i.e. notes that are generated from
>hexachords other than the standard three. So, as an alternative (possible) 
>translation one might read:
>" from here until the end you find some (disjunct) hexachords that, when 
>played well appear to sound good."
>
>Not nearly as good a story as that about Mudarra making fun of Lodovico's 
>skills as a harp player but actually
>rather convincing when you look at the music. And it give us valuable 
>information on techniques used on
>diatonic harps to cope with the increasing needs of raised tones in cadences.
>
> Cheers, Ralf Mattes
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[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

And in English here :
http://www.lavihuela.com/Vihuela/My_publications_files/GRIFFITHS%201989%20mudarra.pdf


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>Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017 22:37 CET, Mathias Rösel 
> schrieb: 
> 
>
>> > and he wants to say that the false relations sound fine if played fast 
>> > enough.
>> > There are no "wrong" notes.
>
>Wait, wait! Nowhere does Mudarra mention speed at all. It's an easy to fall in 
>trap to claim to know
>what an author "wants to say", esp. if you are ignoring what he wrote - 
>"Algunas falsas tañiendo se bien 
>no pareçen mal"
>
>> Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false 
>> notes" in his fantasia.
>
>I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is 
>that why you put it in quotes?)
>
>"Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica ficta", 
>i.e. notes that are generated from
>hexachords other than the standard three. So, as an alternative (possible) 
>translation one might read:
>" from here until the end you find some (disjunct) hexachords that, when 
>played well appear to sound good."
>
>Not nearly as good a story as that about Mudarra making fun of Lodovico's 
>skills as a harp player but actually
>rather convincing when you look at the music. And it give us valuable 
>information on techniques used on
>diatonic harps to cope with the increasing needs of raised tones in cadences.
>
> Cheers, Ralf Mattes
>
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[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Dear all,

All you want to know about this Fantasia by Mudarra : 
http://www.lavihuela.com/Vihuela/My_publications_files/GRIFFITHS%201986%20mu%20fantasia.pdf

Best,

Jean-Marie


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> 
>Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017 22:37 CET, Mathias Rösel 
> schrieb: 
> 
>
>> > and he wants to say that the false relations sound fine if played fast 
>> > enough.
>> > There are no "wrong" notes.
>
>Wait, wait! Nowhere does Mudarra mention speed at all. It's an easy to fall in 
>trap to claim to know
>what an author "wants to say", esp. if you are ignoring what he wrote - 
>"Algunas falsas tañiendo se bien 
>no pareçen mal"
>
>> Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false 
>> notes" in his fantasia.
>
>I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is 
>that why you put it in quotes?)
>
>"Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica ficta", 
>i.e. notes that are generated from
>hexachords other than the standard three. So, as an alternative (possible) 
>translation one might read:
>" from here until the end you find some (disjunct) hexachords that, when 
>played well appear to sound good."
>
>Not nearly as good a story as that about Mudarra making fun of Lodovico's 
>skills as a harp player but actually
>rather convincing when you look at the music. And it give us valuable 
>information on techniques used on
>diatonic harps to cope with the increasing needs of raised tones in cadences.
>
> Cheers, Ralf Mattes
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
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>To get on or off this list see list information at
>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html