[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Konrad Ragossnig :))) His recordings introduced me to lute music when I was young. Recently I discovered Walter Gerwig, an even earlier pioneer. Does anyone know something about his technique and instrument used? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MysjKhdug8g On 19.06.19 06:40, Jurgen Frenz wrote: Julian Bream was a vital part (I believe) of the lute revival 50 years ago by making the music public. On the downside of it he played guitar technique on it to the point of using singe strings on both the high G and D courses - it allowed him to play apoyando on the lute which is a big no-no. Hence his lute playing doesn't really sound like a lute. Also, at that time, it was common guitar technique to use sound differences to emphasize or mark formal sections by moving the right hand extremely close to the bridge, which creates a very metallic sharp sound. This has fallen out of favor on the guitar as well, I personally would qualify it as obnoxious, even more so on the lute. If you like it, you may listen to Konrad Ragossnigs lute recordings, he sounds very much like Bream did. Best Jurgen -- “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:13 AM, Franz Mechsner wrote: Dear Dan, Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come somewhere in the middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI Warm regards and best Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr Von: "Dan Winheld" dwinh...@lmi.net An: "Franz Mechsner" franz.mechs...@gmx.de, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute Nope. Never heard of him. On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on the lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute and produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? Best and curious Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Julian Bream was a vital part (I believe) of the lute revival 50 years ago by making the music public. On the downside of it he played guitar technique on it to the point of using singe strings on both the high G and D courses - it allowed him to play apoyando on the lute which is a big no-no. Hence his lute playing doesn't really sound like a lute. Also, at that time, it was common guitar technique to use sound differences to emphasize or mark formal sections by moving the right hand extremely close to the bridge, which creates a very metallic sharp sound. This has fallen out of favor on the guitar as well, I personally would qualify it as obnoxious, even more so on the lute. If you like it, you may listen to Konrad Ragossnigs lute recordings, he sounds very much like Bream did. Best Jurgen -- “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:13 AM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > Dear Dan, > > Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch > this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come > somewhere in the > middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > > Warm regards and best > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr > Von: "Dan Winheld" dwinh...@lmi.net > An: "Franz Mechsner" franz.mechs...@gmx.de, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute > Nope. Never heard of him. > On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > > > Dear collective wisdom, > > > > > > I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on > > the > > > lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the > > > lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the > > > time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute > > and > > > produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? > > > > > > Best and curious > > > Franz > > > > > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > > > Zum Kirschberg 40 > > > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > > > +49(0)33841 441362 > > > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > References > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hopkinson Smith plays Ponce on the lute.
Intriguing. I'm a fan of Grondona as well. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of terli...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:21 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Hopkinson Smith plays Ponce on the lute. Hi Folks, I am sure many of you will be interested to hear Hopkinson Smith play guitar music of Manuel Ponce on the lute. This music was originally originally written for Segovia.The recording is on Spotify. Here is a link to CD baby: [1]https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/stefanogrondona ~Mark -- References 1. https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/stefanogrondona To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Hopkinson Smith plays Ponce on the lute.
Hi Folks, I am sure many of you will be interested to hear Hopkinson Smith play guitar music of Manuel Ponce on the lute. This music was originally originally written for Segovia.The recording is on Spotify. Here is a link to CD baby: [1]https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/stefanogrondona ~Mark -- References 1. https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/stefanogrondona To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
My question was and is: how does it come that Julian Bream sounds so
good on the lute - though every body today is convinced
to know better
Dr. Franz Mechsner
Zum Kirschberg 40
D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
+49(0)33841 441362
franz.mechs...@gmx.de
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 02:08 Uhr
Von: "spiffys84121"
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
I wouldn't say that Bream pioneered lute technique as he didn't really
use lute technique. He played a lute shaped guitar like a classical
guitar.
He was very influential to future lute players though, but does
--anyone-- today play a Bream type lute/object with guitar technique?
Susan
Bream is still alive btw
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
Original message
From: Franz Mechsner
Date: 6/18/19 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Dan Winheld
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Dear Dan,
Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch
this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come
somewhere in the
middle): [1][1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
Warm regards and best
Franz
Dr. Franz Mechsner
Zum Kirschberg 40
D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
+49(0)33841 441362
franz.mechs...@gmx.de
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr
Von: "Dan Winheld"
An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute
Nope. Never heard of him.
On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote:
> Dear collective wisdom,
>
> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram
on
the
> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on
the
> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for
the
> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special)
lute
and
> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him?
>
> Best and curious
> Franz
>
> Dr. Franz Mechsner
> Zum Kirschberg 40
> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
> +49(0)33841 441362
> franz.mechs...@gmx.de
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> [2][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
References
1. [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
2. [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
References
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
I wouldn't say that Bream pioneered lute technique as he didn't really
use lute technique. He played a lute shaped guitar like a classical
guitar.
He was very influential to future lute players though, but does
--anyone-- today play a Bream type lute/object with guitar technique?
Susan
Bream is still alive btw
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
Original message
From: Franz Mechsner
Date: 6/18/19 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Dan Winheld
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Dear Dan,
Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch
this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come
somewhere in the
middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
Warm regards and best
Franz
Dr. Franz Mechsner
Zum Kirschberg 40
D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
+49(0)33841 441362
franz.mechs...@gmx.de
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr
Von: "Dan Winheld"
An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute
Nope. Never heard of him.
On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote:
> Dear collective wisdom,
>
> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram
on
the
> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on
the
> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for
the
> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special)
lute
and
> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him?
>
> Best and curious
> Franz
>
> Dr. Franz Mechsner
> Zum Kirschberg 40
> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
> +49(0)33841 441362
> franz.mechs...@gmx.de
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
References
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Any LSA members have access to all our old Quarterlies and Journals on the website. Like the contents of our old Microfilm Library (now the Facsimiles Collection), this is available only to current LSA members, so we ask our members not to give articles like this away to non-members. For those of you who have not joined the LSA yet - the new member price is only $40. Nancy Dear Wayne, is this interview available somewhere? I cannot imagine that somebody reveals ALL his secrets, in particuar as most of the stuff is probalbly experiencing with body proprioception etc that cannot or only with great difficulties be written down. I would be thankful Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:24 Uhr Von: "wayne lute" An: "lute net" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute the 1991 LSA quarterly issue 2 has an interview with Julian Bream, where he exposes all his secrets! Wayne > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Franz Mechsner" > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute > Date: June 18, 2019 at 7:13:58 PM EDT > To: "Dan Winheld" > Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Dear Dan, > > Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch > this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come > somewhere in the > middle): [1][1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > > Warm regards and best > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr > Von: "Dan Winheld" > An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute > Nope. Never heard of him. > On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: >> Dear collective wisdom, >> >> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on > the >> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the >> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the >> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute > and >> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? >> >> Best and curious >> Franz >> >> Dr. Franz Mechsner >> Zum Kirschberg 40 >> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne >> +49(0)33841 441362 >> franz.mechs...@gmx.de >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > References > > 1. [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > 2. [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Dear Wayne, is this interview available somewhere? I cannot imagine that somebody reveals ALL his secrets, in particuar as most of the stuff is probalbly experiencing with body proprioception etc that cannot or only with great difficulties be written down. I would be thankful Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:24 Uhr Von: "wayne lute" An: "lute net" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute the 1991 LSA quarterly issue 2 has an interview with Julian Bream, where he exposes all his secrets! Wayne > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Franz Mechsner" > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute > Date: June 18, 2019 at 7:13:58 PM EDT > To: "Dan Winheld" > Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Dear Dan, > > Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch > this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come > somewhere in the > middle): [1][1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > > Warm regards and best > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr > Von: "Dan Winheld" > An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute > Nope. Never heard of him. > On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: >> Dear collective wisdom, >> >> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on > the >> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the >> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the >> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute > and >> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? >> >> Best and curious >> Franz >> >> Dr. Franz Mechsner >> Zum Kirschberg 40 >> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne >> +49(0)33841 441362 >> franz.mechs...@gmx.de >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > References > > 1. [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > 2. [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
the 1991 LSA quarterly issue 2 has an interview with Julian Bream, where he exposes all his secrets! Wayne > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Franz Mechsner" > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute > Date: June 18, 2019 at 7:13:58 PM EDT > To: "Dan Winheld" > Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Dear Dan, > > Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch > this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come > somewhere in the > middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > > Warm regards and best > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr > Von: "Dan Winheld" > An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute > Nope. Never heard of him. > On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: >> Dear collective wisdom, >> >> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on > the >> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the >> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the >> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute > and >> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? >> >> Best and curious >> Franz >> >> Dr. Franz Mechsner >> Zum Kirschberg 40 >> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne >> +49(0)33841 441362 >> franz.mechs...@gmx.de >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > References > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI > 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
See how Stravinsky is fascinated by the lute from 1:12 the mentioned movie... I just watch it through... Dear Dan, Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come somewhere in the middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI Warm regards and best Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr Von: "Dan Winheld" An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute Nope. Never heard of him. On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > Dear collective wisdom, > > I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on the > lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the > lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the > time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute and > produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? > > Best and curious > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Dear Dan, Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come somewhere in the middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI Warm regards and best Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr Von: "Dan Winheld" An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute Nope. Never heard of him. On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: > Dear collective wisdom, > > I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on the > lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the > lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the > time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute and > produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? > > Best and curious > Franz > > Dr. Franz Mechsner > Zum Kirschberg 40 > D-14806 Belzig OT Borne > +49(0)33841 441362 > franz.mechs...@gmx.de > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
Nope. Never heard of him. On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on the lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute and produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? Best and curious Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute
Dear collective wisdom, I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on the lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute and produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him? Best and curious Franz Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne +49(0)33841 441362 franz.mechs...@gmx.de To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
