[LUTE] Re: future of the lute
"Although access to entry level lutes has been problematic, Le Luth Dore, in Paris, led by one of the world's finest young lutenists, in the past several years reinstituted mass production of affordable, high quality lutesâfor the first time since the 16th century. This is a highly promising development, based on the faith that there is and will continue to be a market. The same company has published a line of carefully-edited, high quality editions of lute music and lute tutors by master players" Unfortunately, apparently the factory in China that was contracted to produce the lutes for Le Luth Dore stole the copywritten plans and began selling counterfeit copies. According to the Le Luth Dore [1]website, the entire production is embroiled in litigation. There are no instruments available for sale or order (all models have been marked "out of stock" for quite some time already). Moshe Davis Jerusalem On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 01:19, Roberts, William <[2]robe...@blankrome.com> wrote: There are some positive signsâa few thoughts: 1. Although it is a frequently expressed concern, I believe the audience for classical music has always been "graying" (at least as life expectancy has increased). Perhaps the reasons include greater availability of leisure time of that age group, greater disposable income to spend on concerts and more time to explore musical repertoire, develop a taste and appreciation of it, and discover the ruch legacy. The audience has also included people who as young people were taken to concerts and persons who have studied or currently study these musical instruments. 2. I suspect the same may be true of the audience for lute music and early music. 3. One of the constraints on playing the lute family of instruments may have been the previous lack of availability of instruments. There is now an expanding group of wonderful instrument makers, the second generation, including those who went into the museums, studied and drew the historical examples, mastered the techniques and materials and supply the world of lute players with exquisite instruments. 4. Although access to entry level lutes has been problematic, Le Luth Dore, in Paris, led by one of the world's finest young lutenists, in the past several years reinstituted mass production of affordable, high quality lutesâfor the first time since the 16th century. This is a highly promising development, based on the faith that there is and will continue to be a market. The same company has published a line of carefully-edited, high quality editions of lute music and lute tutors by master players. 5. Many of us have probably been deeply inspired by the availability of very fine professional recordings of a constantly expanding lute repertoire. It seems reasonable to expect that this will continue. The fine sound quality available on modern equipment permits the lute to advocate for itself in new ways across new sound recording dissemination technology. 6. More US conservatories (e.g. Juilliard, Eastman, Peabody to name just a few) and European conservatories (i believe, in addition to Schola, of course) seem to be offerIng teaching on the lute, and wonderfully accomplished young players continue to graduate from these schools and to pursue careers in music. I believe there is ground for optimism. W Roberts Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2020, at 5:14 PM, George Arndt <[3]george.ar...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > To my friends on the Graying Lute List: > >Due to a two-century long and world-wide shortage of lute players, we >can now get into heaven for free! > >Smile, > >George > __ > >From: [4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu ><[5]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Nancy Carlin ><[6]lsaq.edi...@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:15 PM >To: howard posner <[7]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>; lutelist Net ><[8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >Subject: [LUTE] Re: future of the lute > >Howard is right about the graying of audiences and it's been talked >about for years here in the US. I think one problem is that early >music >is the poor step-sister of "classical music" - a category that was >solidified (along with ethnic, folk etc.) back when record stores >started. It seems to me our music was the pop music of the day, with a >bit of a division between music for use in church, court and things >like >popular ballad tunes.
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
What about the famous Falckenhagen Prelude in all keys? It takes me
about 26min to play.
Susan
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Date: 8/29/20 7:11 AM (GMT-07:00)
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Subject: [LUTE] A trivia question
What is the longest lute piece in history?
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[LUTE] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: A trivia question
Am Samstag, 29. August 2020 18:59 CEST, Sarge Gerbode schrieb: > I meant -- someone in Renaissance times listening to a performance. Unless one is dancing to the music - long-time dance events must have been common. Wasn't it Burney who reported about spanish dance events lasting all night with two bands playing alternatim to get through the night. 15th ccentury iconography often shows two shawn players in the alta capella with only one playing - which also indicates that bands where expected to provide music for an extended time. Cheers, RalfD > > --Sarge > > On 8/29/2020 9:44 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: > > This raises a question as well: Where would one have found this > > "renaissance audience?" > > > > From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu > > on behalf of Sarge Gerbode > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:52 AM > > To: G. C.; Lutelist > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [LUTE] Re: A trivia question > > > > I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this > > kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from > > for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience > > would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. > > > > So what's the longest non-variation piece? > > > > --Sarge > > > > On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: > >> Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take > >> more > >> than one hour to perform > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>[2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > >> > >> -- > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com > >> 2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > >> > >> > >> To get on or off this list see list information at > >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > -- Ralf Mattes Hochschule für Musik Freiburg Projektleitung HISinOne Schwarzwaldstr. 141, D-79102 Freiburg http://www.mh-freiburg.de
[LUTE] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: A trivia question
I meant -- someone in Renaissance times listening to a performance. --Sarge On 8/29/2020 9:44 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: This raises a question as well: Where would one have found this "renaissance audience?" From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Sarge Gerbode Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:52 AM To: G. C.; Lutelist Subject: [EXTERNAL] [LUTE] Re: A trivia question I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take more than one hour to perform On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html -- References 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: A trivia question
This raises a question as well: Where would one have found this "renaissance audience?" From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Sarge Gerbode Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:52 AM To: G. C.; Lutelist Subject: [EXTERNAL] [LUTE] Re: A trivia question I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: > Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take > more > than one hour to perform > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com > 2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
I unterstand the point, but he was (at last so I unterstand) also an active performer. And: the Bergamasca variations for keyboard by Frescobaldi come in the print publication with a remark that you will have learned a lot after you have played them through. Would that make them mere pedagocial stuff? As for the longest non-variation piece for lute: this is (mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit) either the Gavotta nimis endlesslia by Irenaeus Taubengraus or the third movement from Donnerstag aus Lärm by this contemporary composer... What was his Name... Expedit ex Memoria.. Best Reichert Versbold von Lüdtkenswalde Am 29.08.2020 18:10 schrieb Christopher Stetson : Wasn't Vincenzo known mostly as a theoretician? Should we see this more as a treatise on writing variations than intended for public performance? On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 11:56 AM Sarge Gerbode <[1]sa...@gerbode.net> wrote: I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: > Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take more > than one hour to perform > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1][2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [2][3]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.ht ml > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[4]kalei...@gmail.com > 2. [5]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 3. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html 4. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 5. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Someone asked this question at one of Jacob Heringman's LSA classes, and he mentioned an intabulation by Bakfark that ran something like 17 minutes. Don't recall the title. Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Sarge Gerbode Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:52 AM To: G. C.; Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: A trivia question I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: > Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take > more > than one hour to perform > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > [2]https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Flute%40cs.dartmouth.edu%2Fmsg24116.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C6388636420d0414866ac08d84c33bbcc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63734313235154sdata=PUuIbo8ihKr1DNWi7WlFm6%2F5frEyIAjlY2ZrZ011Y0U%3Dreserved=0 > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com > 2. > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Flute%40cs.dartmouth.edu%2Fmsg24116.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C6388636420d0414866ac08d84c33bbcc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63734313235154sdata=PUuIbo8ihKr1DNWi7WlFm6%2F5frEyIAjlY2ZrZ011Y0U%3Dreserved=0 > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C6388636420d0414866ac08d84c33bbcc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63734313235154sdata=XBpiU4Y02c8rJujnAnk9SUw4zSU4P4XzolWerEkoMwo%3Dreserved=0
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Wasn't Vincenzo known mostly as a theoretician? Should we see this more as a treatise on writing variations than intended for public performance? On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 11:56 AM Sarge Gerbode <[1]sa...@gerbode.net> wrote: I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: > Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take more > than one hour to perform > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1][2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [2][3]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.ht ml > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[4]kalei...@gmail.com > 2. [5]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 3. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html 4. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 5. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
I think this one wins the prize, but I am not sure variations on this kind should win, as they are a sort of grab bag one could select from for any particular performance. I think even a Renaissance audience would be put to sleep by an hour-long set of variations. So what's the longest non-variation piece? --Sarge On 8/29/2020 6:56 AM, G. C. wrote: Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take more than one hour to perform On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html -- References 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Two very long pieces - of excellent quality - are Hans Newsidler ´s version of "Alexander" in his second book of 1536, as well as the first set of passamezzo antico variations by Melchior Newsidler in Philip Agricola ´s lute book. Der Alexander takes me at least 20 minutes to play through and the 16 pages of the Passamezzi as well if I remember correctly. Best, Magnus On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 3:46:18 PM GMT+2, G. C. wrote: There is a very long passamezzo by V. Galilei in manuscript -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Vincenzo Galilei wrote 100 variations over the Romanesca, which would take more than one hour to perform On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html -- References 1. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg24116.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
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[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
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[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
The Scottish Hunts Upp? Or maybe it just seems that way. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:22 AM Mathias Rösel <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: Roman, IIRC, there's a notorious fantasy in the Siena ms. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: [2]r.turov...@gmail.com Betreff: [LUTE] A trivia question Datum: 29. August 2020, 15:05 An: Lutelist What is the longest lute piece in history? RT [2][3]http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5]https://kommunikationsdienste.t-online.de/redirects/email_app_and roid_sendmail_footer 2. [6]http://turovsky.org/ 3. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 3. http://turovsky.org/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. https://kommunikationsdienste.t-online.de/redirects/email_app_android_sendmail_footer 6. http://turovsky.org/ 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Not counting any suites, which are made up of separate pieces, the longest single piece that I know is a ricercar in the Siena lute book. The score (over 400 bars) is available at [1]http://www.gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28 .B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/ N0. 131 I should add however that the Siena ricercar seems to be a composite, made up of various sections from already existing pieces that were more or less 'glued together'. Some time ago, I identified two: one source for the ricercar is Fantasia Prima from Adriaenssen 1584, another one is a fantasia that is found in two sources only: Marsh and Thistlethwaite. Both quotations are very lengthy (dozens of bars) and exact. I am at the moment trying to identify other pieces that were used for the Siena ricercar. André Op za 29 aug. 2020 om 15:06 schreef <[2]r.turov...@gmail.com>: What is the longest lute piece in history? RT [3]http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28.B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/ 2. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 3. http://turovsky.org/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A trivia question
Roman, IIRC, there's a notorious fantasy in the Siena ms. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: r.turov...@gmail.com Betreff: [LUTE] A trivia question Datum: 29. August 2020, 15:05 An: Lutelist What is the longest lute piece in history? RT [2]http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://kommunikationsdienste.t-online.de/redirects/email_app_android_sendmail_footer 2. http://turovsky.org/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] A trivia question
What is the longest lute piece in history? RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: future of the lute
That's not a movie... Or you could count any Early music stage play. If so, I nominate "Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKuUqsR4WOY Gesendet: Freitag, 28. August 2020 um 10:55 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An: "Jean-Marie Poirier" , "Lute Dmth" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: future of the lute Do you not count Andrew Parrott's Una stravaganza dei medici? Here's the opening [1]Una Stravaganza Dei Medici (1) [youtube.png] Una Stravaganza Dei Medici (1) On Friday, 28 August 2020, 08:21:54 BST, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Agreed but I maybe partial here ð! Jean-Marie > Le 28 aoÃÆût 2020 ÃÆ 00:00, Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> a ÃÆécrit : > > ïûÿI beg to differ - see Tous les matins du monde > > >> On 8/27/20 2:41 PM, [3]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de wrote: >> him. >> >> A good Early Music movie has yet to be made... > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [4][1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References Visible links: 1. [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYk w1ipKCNv-NX3pQC 2. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 3. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de 4. [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Hidden links: 6. [4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYk w1ipKCNv-NX3pQC References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYkw1ipKCNv-NX3pQC 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYkw1ipKCNv-NX3pQC
[LUTE] Re: future of the lute
Thanks, Martyn. Great movie. There is a playlist on YouTube for the TV program. Let's see whether the link below survives transmission through the list server.https: // www.youtube .com/ playlist?list=PL1145D2CEC1ECC20C(You will need to remove the 4 spaces I inserted in order for the link to work.) If that doesn't work, then go to the main/home page of YouTube and search forplaylist?list=PL1145D2CEC1ECC20C Unfortunately, the fourth segment is copyright blocked in the USA. Greetings to all for what may be the last time. Regards, Daniel Heiman -- Original Message -- From: Martyn Hodgson To: Jean-Marie Poirier ,Lute Dmth Subject: [LUTE] Re: future of the lute Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:55:43 + (UTC) Do you not count Andrew Parrott's Una stravaganza dei medici? Here's the opening [1]Una Stravaganza Dei Medici (1) [youtube.png] Una Stravaganza Dei Medici (1) On Friday, 28 August 2020, 08:21:54 BST, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Agreed but I maybe partial here ð! Jean-Marie > Le 28 août 2020 à 00:00, Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> a écrit : > > I beg to differ - see Tous les matins du monde > > >> On 8/27/20 2:41 PM, [3]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de wrote: >> him. >> >>A good Early Music movie has yet to be made... > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References Visible links: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYkw1ipKCNv-NX3pQC 2. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 3. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Hidden links: 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfakbN_6Zzs=PL0clH6LNQvkV4CaoYkw1ipKCNv-NX3pQC --
