[LUTE] BEMF Fringe Concert

2019-05-27 Thread Eric Hansen
   Lute Listers,
   This is to announce a Boston Early Music Festival Fringe Concert by my
   trio, Entwyned Early Music.   We'll be playing on Wednesday, June 12,
   2019 at 2:00 p.m. at The College Club of Boston, 44 Commonwealth
   Avenue, Boston, MA. Here are particulars about the program:
   Grounds Abound: Catchy Chords and Righteous Riffs
   Repeated chord patterns called Grounds were a force for musical unity
   from the 16th and into the 17th century. The three musicians in
   Entwyned Early Music play traverso, harp, Baroque guitar, lutes, and
   viola da gamba to run down the grounds from England, Italy, and Spain
   from about 1550 till about 1700, featuring historic written-out
   improvisations plus ideas of their own. Entwyned will also explore
   theme and variations in a delightful set of curious Scotts tunes.
   The actual program is [1]here.
   I'll hope to see you there!
   Best to all,
   Eric
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[LUTE] Re: New music

2017-12-21 Thread Eric Hansen
   Hartt School composer David Macbride composes solo lute music for me, a
   total of 13 pieces as of this writing.   I played one of them at the
   Lute Society Seminar in Cleveland a few years ago, it's up on YouTube.
 He and I have begun to record the pieces, a few at a time.
   Best to all,
   Eric

   On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Jacob Johnson
   <[1]tmrguitar...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I don't think that's entirely accurate. Ronn McFarlane plays his
 own
compositions, Jakob Lindberg performs the Britten Nocturnal (I
 know,
it's not that new, and it's not really for lute, but IMO it kinda
counts), Chris Wilke recorded a whole cd of Roman Turovsky's new
 works
for baroque lute, I saw Elizabeth Kenny perform TWO recent
 theorbo
commissions at the LuteFestWest, and there's certainly more
 examples I
just can't think of at the moment.
As soon as I can afford to do so, I intend to commission some
 works for
myself to play.
Jacob Johnson
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[1][2]www.johnsonguitarstudio.com
[3]469.237.0625.

  On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Stetson
  <[2][4]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote:
   Hello all.
   An interesting question, Peter, thanks for bringing it up.
   To
answer
   honestly and personally, I'm not especially interested in new
music,
   per se, for any of the instruments I play (mainly lute, guitar,
   mandolin, but some others too). I couldn't really say why,
except
   that the music I've looked at from the last 30 years tends, and
   I
mean
   tends, to be difficult and not especially tuneful to my ear.
There
   are exceptions, of course, and I play some of those, though
mostly on
   guitar. I'm not a professional, so I tend to be fairly
conservstive
   in the music I choose to spend time seeking out and playing.
 I
also
   don't play many of the old compositions that fit the above
criteria.
   I fully realize. however, that one person's difficult is
another
   person's interesting, and I'm really glad that people are
   writing
new
   music for lute.
   Best to all, and keep playing,
   Chris.
 On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Peter Martin

<[1][3][5]peter.l...@gmail.com>

 wrote:
  Hello all,
  I recently bought a Wigmore Hall Live CD of a 2013 concert
   by
  countertenor Iestyn Davies and lutenist Thomas Dunford.
It
   included
  the world premiere performance of a substantial piece by
   Nico
   Muhly
  called Old Bones.  Up to now, I'd never heard of it,
   which
   surprised
  me because Muhly is a very successful young American
   composer.
His
  new opera Marnie has just premiered at English National
   Opera,
   and his
  previous opera Two Boys was given at ENO and at the Met in
   New
   York.
  The score of Old Bones is available from Music Sales.
   Yet I
   can't see
  that the lute world has paid the slightest attention to it.
  Which sets me wondering, not about Muhly as such, but about
   new
   music
  generally.  With the honourable exception of Jacob
  Heringman,
   scarcely
  anyone plays it.  Any thoughts on why this is?  Are
   we
  simply
   not
  interested in new music?
  Peter
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[LUTE] New Album Again

2017-11-16 Thread Eric Hansen
   Since I posted my New Album announcement yesterday, a few of you have
   asked how to find it Amazon. So,
   Amazon:
   Select "CDs & Vinyl" from the drop down list at the gray button to the
   left of the search box, then key in Entwyned Early Music.
   OR
   Try this abbreviated link: [1]https://is.gd/MMlZhE
   In iTunes, a search of Entwyned Early Music should work.
   Thanks,
   Eric
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[LUTE] New Album

2017-11-15 Thread Eric Hansen
   I am very pleased to announce the release of my trio's second album,
   "âTwas In the Moon of Wintertime: An Entwyned Early Music Christmas."
   It features our hand-picked selections from the 13th through to 18th
   century, in our arrangements for Renaissance and Baroque flutes, viola
   da gamba, Renaissance lute, archlute, and Baroque guitar.   Four tracks
   also feature vocals by guest artist Greg Wilfrid. It's available now
   from Amazon, iTunes, CDBaby, and many other online outlets.
   Best to all,
   Eric
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

2015-08-13 Thread Eric Hansen
   I recall from an LSA seminar many years ago Lyle Nordstrum addressed
   this question. He said that the historical remedy was a mixture of soap
   and ashes (talc is a cleaner modern substitute). Proportions of the
   ingredients were determined by the behaviour of the pegs: if the pegs
   stuck, use more soap and less ashes; if the pegs slipped, use more
   ashes and less soap. This could apply to the soap and talc mixture as
   well, I think. At the end of the day, nothing beats pegs that fit their
   holes well, imho.
   Good luck,
   Eric

   On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Daniel F. Heiman
   [1]heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote:

 There are various commercially-available remedies as well:
 [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope
 Whatever you use, apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have
 to
 remove some or all of it if the application does not improve the
 situation.
 Daniel
 -Original Message-
 From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
 Of David van Ooijen
 Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02
 To: lutelist Net
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question
Love that typo. ;-)
David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen
[1][5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use talk only. Baby powder.
 David
 On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler
  [1][2][6]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
   I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand
 that
   applying
   a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
   So, is that a 50/50 mix?
   Should I add any water?
   any tips gratefully received
   kind regards
   andy
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[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Hansen
   I saw that orchestra in Connecticut last Sunday. The lutenist strummed
   quite bit, on a swan - neck Baroque lute. It looked to have a pick
   guard installed. He was a fine player.
   Eric

   On Feb 27, 2014 8:31 AM, Geoff Gaherty [1]ge...@gaherty.ca wrote:

 On 27/02/14 3:43 AM, William Samson wrote:

 Not that I know anything about it, but the name 'chittarone'
 seems to
 give the game away.  The very idea has me salivating!   Mighty
 rasgueados on the theorbo, anyone?

 I attended a concert by the Venice Baroque Orchestra in Santa
 Barbara recently and was surprised by the amount of rasgueado
 strumming by their theorbo player.  He even had a pick guard
 installed on his instrument!
 Geoff
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[LUTE] Re: Best body fret material?

2013-10-30 Thread Eric Hansen
   A few years ago I was visiting luthier Joel Van Lennep, who showed me
   his favorite material for fixed (body) frets: lilac. He said he
   preferred it because it's very hard, and yet still flexible.



   Best to all,

   Eric

   On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Sterling [1]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
   wrote:

 I have body frets on one lute made of an ivory-ebony sandwich and
 they sound great up to the 14th fret. Cutting ivory is not easy
 though as it tends to shatter. Another lute I have has
 holly-ebony-holly frets. I like these flashy frets, but my friend
 Bob Hieronimus hates them and prefers that the body frets are almost
 invisible.
 Sterling
 Sent from my iPhone

   On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Dan Winheld [2]dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
Talk of tastini has gotten me wondering, what is the best material
   for body frets? I have been playing a lot of music recently that dances
   around in the lute's stratosphere- Melchior Neusidler, Mudarra, Milan's
   advanced fantasias, etc. The plain wooden frets I have now-  probably
   Maple, maybe Boxwood; sound pretty terrible compared to the gut frets.
   I am thinking Ebony, some other dense tropical hardwood, bone, or even
   some modern synthetic- but only if aesthetically acceptable  sonically
   superior. If anyone knows of some magic non-metallic body fret material
   I would really like to know.
   
Part of the problem is the buzzing, unclean sound that results from a
   squared off fret- an inevitable result of having to shave them down for
   proper clearance after gluing down. Ideally, they should be crowned- or
   at least rounded edges for best tone. Tough, fussy job to do even
   before installation for the non-luthier DIY amateur.
   
Thanks all for any enlightenment on this bit of lute pain.
   
Dan
   
   
   
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[LUTE] Mateus Renaissance Lutes

2011-05-30 Thread Eric Hansen
   Dear Lute Listers:
   I am interested in the work of luthier Cezar Mateus, specifically for
   an 8-course Renaissance lute. If any of you have had direct experience
   with that maker and his Renaissance lutes (6-8 courses), please reply
   to me off list at the address below.
   My thanks in advance,
   Eric
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[LUTE] Re: Hand moisturizer.

2011-02-14 Thread Eric Hansen
   My personal favorite is Vaseline Intensive Care Creamy (comes in a
   white tube). Very smooth, but use sparingly.
   Good luck,
   Eric

   On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Herbert Ward
   [1]wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote:

 What is a good hand moisturizer for lute playing?
 Lubriderm moisturizes well.  But it leaves my fingers
 catchy, even to the point of squeaking slightly on
 the strings.
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[LUTE] Re: Larry Brown

2010-05-25 Thread Eric Hansen
   The Larry Brown in question worked in Asheville, NC.

   Best to all,
   Eric

 On May 25, 2010 10:55 AM, Edward Mast [1]nedma...@aol.com wrote:
 I suspect this is not the same Brown, since the Brown I think TS is
 referring to has/had his website under the name Lawrence K Brown.
 Ned

 On May 25, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Lex van Sante wrote:Begin
 doorgestuurd bericht:   Van: L...

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[LUTE] Luthier information

2009-03-09 Thread Eric Hansen
   Has anyone had contact with luthier Larry Brown (Asheville, NC)
   recently? I've attempted to contact him for over a week with no
   success. Please reply to me off list if you have information and care
   to share it.
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[LUTE] Re: Willow Song

2006-10-09 Thread Eric Hansen

Richard,

One source is:

Jorgens, Lise Bickford, ed. _English Song 1600-1675_. Vol. 1, British Library 
Manuscripts, Part I. London  New York, 1986.

This should be available to you by Interlibrary Loan if it's not otherwise 
nearby.

Good luck,
Eric Hansen

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From: Richard Brook [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 11:17:56 -0400
Subject: [LUTE] Willow Song

Hi NettersDoes anyone know where I can get the 'Willow Song' (Othello) with all 
the verses and lute accompaniment?Thanks, Dick BrookTo get on or off this list 
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[LUTE] Re: continuo

2005-10-08 Thread Eric Hansen

Very good recommendations. Castaldi's _Cappricci a due stromenti cioe tiorba e 
tiorbino e per sonar solo varie sorti di balli fantasticarie_ is also 
instructive for the songs in it, set for solo voice. The accompaniment is a 
bass line, beneath which is a realization in tablature for theorbo. The 
tablature gives some idea of style as well as harmonic realization. The book is 
a Minkoff Reprint (1981), with ISBN 2-8266-0718-9.

Eric Hansen
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From: Taco Walstra [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 13:43:41 +0200
Subject: [LUTE] Re: continuo

On Saturday 08 October 2005 12:39, you wrote:brbrAs said before in the 'new 
boy's' thread the book by Nigel North is the best brstarting book. It gives 
excellent information with some worked out examples brin tablature. In my 
opinion the theoretical chapter on music theory is a bit brshort, when 
starting to figure your own unfigured bass part; it's more an broutline for 
people who already know everything about harmonics, 6, 6/4 brinversions etc. 
etc. but this can also be found in other books. brbrThe french lute society 
has also some booklet on continuo, but of course in brfrench and not known to 
me. brbrA very good book is Traité d'accompagnement pour le théorbe et 
le clavessin br(Paris, 1690) by Denis Delair, available in facsimile by 
Minkoff. The English brtranslation is unfortunately not anymore available, 
but can be found in some bruniversity libraries.brbrComplicated but still 
interesting is brArnold, The art of accompaniment from 
a thorough bass as practised in the 17th brand 18th centuries (Dover 
publications, 2 paperbacks). brbrFleury - Methode pour apprendre facilement 
a toucher le theorbe sur la brbasse-continue, 1660. Minkoff facsimile. Lots 
of mistakes, generally not brrecommended, only historically 
interesting.brbrAgazzari - del sonare sopra 'l basso con tutti li stromenti 
e dell' uso loro brnel conserto, Sienna 1607. Very interesting essay. 
Translation can be found brin Arnold but also on internet. It's more for 
historical background because brof it's early date, not for learning 
continuo. brbrThe 'English songs 1625-1660', Musica Brittanica is a good 
starter, because brthe bass part is worked out in staff, easy songs which fit 
very good on brtheorbo.brTacobr Hi folks,brbr Are there any tutors 
for learning continuo on the theorbo?brbr Thanks,brbr 
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O Death redux

2005-05-15 Thread Eric Hansen

A facsimile of the lute song version of O death, rock me asleep from is 
available in the following modern printed source:

Title:  English song, 1600-1675 : facsimiles of twenty-six manuscripts 
and an edition of the texts /
Author(s):  Jorgens, Elise Bickford. 
Publication:[New York :; Garland,
Year:   1986-1989
Description:1 score (12 v.) ;; 32 cm.
Language:   English
Music Type: Songs
Standard No:ISBN: 0824082311 (alk. paper : v. 1) :; LCCN: 86-751946

O death... is in volume 1 of the series. Check with your local library for 
interlibrary loan of this item.

Best to all,
Eric Hansen
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Two Accompaniment Questions

2005-04-17 Thread Eric Hansen

Cross-posted; please excuse duplication.

1. Can anyone recommend 17th-century songs for soprano or mezzo-sop. and 
11-course Baroque lute (d minor tuning) with the accompaniment in tablature? 
I'm not quite far enough along in this tuning to realize a bass just yet. 

2. Is there a source for Caccini's Amarilli mia bella with the bass line 
realized for theorbo, in tablature? I have played the realization by Dowland 
for lute, and can realize Caccini's original bass line on the theorbo, but the 
results of my attempt at the latter are thinnner sounding than I'd like. 

My thanks in advance to all,

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AR e-mail?

2005-01-27 Thread Eric Hansen

Does anyone know if luthier Andrew Rutherford has an e-mail address, and if 
yes, what it is? Sorry to bother you all with this, but I'm away from my 
directories today.

Thanks in advance,
Eric Hansen
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AR e-mail thank you

2005-01-27 Thread Eric Hansen

Thanks to all who responded to my request for Andrew Rutherford's e-mail 
address; I have the information now.

Best to you all,
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Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings

2005-01-26 Thread Eric Hansen

Agreed. For my purposes, tuning stability and a tone quality that's compatible 
with the treble strings is more of a concern than length of sustain in the bass.

Eric Hansen
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From: Arto Wikla [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:24:53 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings

brDear lutenistsbrbr i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass 
(whatever that means),=20br what i talk about is the fact that most of us, 
lute players, prefferbr a LONGER VIBRATING TONE. br

brI strongly doubt that! Many, perhaps most of us(?), used some time 
agobrthe wound pyramid basses. Those modern guitar style strings have 
verybrlong vibrating tone. And most of us(?) wanted to get rid of 
longbrvibrating tones, which made an archlute or theorbo sound like a 
grandbrpiano played with pedal down...brbrGut and its modern imitators 
behave much better.brbrArtobrbrbrbrTo get on or off this list see 
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RE: Lyn Elder?

2005-01-17 Thread Eric Hansen

Jason and all:

Lyn has moved to Vermont. Here is his current contact information:

74 North Street
Bristol, VT  05443

His e-mail address remains as before: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eric Hansen
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 --- On Mon 01/17, Jason Yoshida  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: Jason Yoshida [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:38:30 -0800
Subject: Lyn Elder?

Hi,brDoes anyone know how to contact the luthier Lyn Elder.brI tried his 
website and it is no longer online. The telephone number he =brhad listed on 
the various lute society luthier lists prompted a =brdisconnect 
message.brThanks,brJasonbr--brbrTo get on or off this list see list 
information atbrhttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.htmlbr

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